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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/plotsummary

thats a link the IMDBs story outline for SP3, i cant beleive i was right. they are having green goblin again, and introducing venom and having the sand man.
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Sounds like a pretty convoluted storyline. Too many villains for one, and to my mind, Sandman seems like a lame villain choice - what can they possibly do with him?

If they did it right in the first place and kept with comic continuity, this all could've been sweet. For instance, Gwen Stacy in the original, have her die at the end when Spidey has to make the choice (like the comics); introduce MJ in the sequel, develop the second Green Goblin/Hobgoblin story to the point where someone actually assumes the identity by the ending...
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What I see from that synopsis is what happened with the first round of Batman movies.
Batman- 1 villian: Joker
Batman Returns- 1 villian: Penguin, 1 Enigma: Catwoman (who seemed to be with and against Batman at different times throughout the movie, from what I remember)
Batman Forever- 2 villians: Two-Face and Riddler
Batman and Robin- 3 villians: Dr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Bane (must atmit, I never saw this one, so I don't know how significant Bane was in the plot)

More villians <> better movie
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Originally posted by: starkiller
What I see from that synopsis is what happened with the first round of Batman movies.
Batman- 1 villian: Joker
Batman Returns- 1 villian: Penguin, 1 Enigma: Catwoman (who seemed to be with and against Batman at different times throughout the movie, from what I remember)
Batman Forever- 2 villians: Two-Face and Riddler
Batman and Robin- 3 villians: Dr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Bane (must atmit, I never saw this one, so I don't know how significant Bane was in the plot)

More villians <> better movie


Batman and Batman Returns were great movies. I think two villains can be handled quite well (i.e. I think that Burton handled it quite well, and I guess it was 3 if you count Max Shrek).

The thing is, with this Spiderman movie, we will see Sandman, Spidey's new suit (which will somehow be related to Sandman's origin - LAME), Venom (or at least the origin of Venom), a new main squeeze, as well as a further stringing along of the Harry Osborn subplot (and if not, yet another villain in the form of Green Goblin or the Hobgoblin). Does anyone else see this (Harry Osborn becoming his father's successor) as being a long time coming?
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What happened to The Lizard?
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Yeah, I'd always heard that The Lizard was supposed to be coming along for the third ride, seeing as how Connors was introduced in the second movie.

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Yeah maybe he will be in the 4th one if they make one.
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Sounds like a pretty convoluted storyline. Too many villains for one, and to my mind, Sandman seems like a lame villain choice - what can they possibly do with him?

If they did it right in the first place and kept with comic continuity, this all could've been sweet. For instance, Gwen Stacy in the original, have her die at the end when Spidey has to make the choice (like the comics); introduce MJ in the sequel, develop the second Green Goblin/Hobgoblin story to the point where someone actually assumes the identity by the ending...


I agree.

Shall I cut & paste the plot synopsis for those who don't feel like cutting and pasting the URL into their net headers?
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i dont think its too much haveing just harry wouldnt be enough, he villian characters going to be too small for the overall movie, thats why they got sand man. and then the are introducing venom which they have to do. venoms saga was too big to stick it all in one movie. its going to be great watch though, peter is going to kill harry as venom spiderman, then realise his mistake, and thats when he leaves it. eddie brook will find the symbot, and the movie will end with him joining.
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Just as long as Sandman and the Green Goblin don't "team-up".

Gotta keep 'em separated.
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guess a 2 second search to bring up this thread spider-man 3 would have been too much work.

Anyway, onto topic. Just read the plotsummary...I dunno about that. while elements of it are true to the comic for the most part its not. I realize that the movies so far havent been true, but if their gonna introduce Gwen Stacey they should have done so before MJ unless they are gonna make her a minor role and ultimatly not get in between Peter and MJ. There's way too much history between Peter and Gwen and character development between the two that has been tossed aside that to introduce her now doesnt do her character justice.

fans of the movie aren't gonna like her because they want Peter and MJ to be together. Comic book spidey fans will go either way since Gwen was Peters first love, but he ended up with MJ so thats gonna loose some people. They're gonna kill someone close to him. ok 3 choices here. Aunt May (seriously doubt it), Harry (maybe), one of his love interests (MJ or Gwen, could go either way, but above comments make it hard to say. if they go with MJ it will piss of lots of people and would be week to have Parker fall for Gwen that quickly, if they kill off Gwen its not gonna have an impact unless Peter falls for her, same dilema as before the other senerio)

If they wanted Gwen in they should have a) used her first b) introduced her earlier

Im starting to worry about this movie and dont know how good it will be, im seriously starting to doubt it will live up to 1 or 2 because there is just too much going on...especially since (unless arangements have been made) last i heard everyone only signed on for 3 movies so they have to wrap this up in this movie. Either way, there is way too much going on in this movie and they are ignoring way to many plot points that have already been introduced.

After starting to actually read the comics and learn the real story (besides some biases from what i thought i knew) they are at least 10 times better than the movies. the emotion and depth to the characters, especially Peter and the stuff he has to deal with living with a secret identity is just make it such a great read.

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i donno this might be stupid, but they could follow the show, and have harry and MJ fall into a portal, and both die.
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A massive assumption is being made ... that IMDB is in any way a good resource for information on films that are still in production. It isn't.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
i donno this might be stupid, but they could follow the show, and have harry and MJ fall into a portal, and both die.

which show was that?

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
A massive assumption is being made ... that IMDB is in any way a good resource for information on films that are still in production. It isn't.


I'm not saying it is, im just saying that if that truely is the plot then i dont have high hopes.

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"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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Didn't Dunst say no more Spiderman?

Wouldn't it make sense for MJ to get the big boot?
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
A massive assumption is being made ... that IMDB is in any way a good resource for information on films that are still in production. It isn't.


A LOT OF THEIR PRE-PRODUCTION INFO COMES FROM "INSIDERS." ANYBODY CAN POSE AS AN INSIDER. THEREFORE, ADM IS VERY MUCH CORRECT.

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Originally posted by: maddog00
Didn't Dunst say no more Spiderman?

Wouldn't it make sense for MJ to get the big boot?


They just should've recast Bryce in her role and been done with it. Kirsten Dunst has from "It girl" to "Musty old claptrap" in the span of two years.
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elizabethtown durnst = annoying

Raimi hasn't let me down. But bringing Gwen Stacy in at this time is bad mojo. It doesn't look like they have any plans of wrapping this up. I thought it was a trilogy - to end with III. Looks like money wins again, and I'm afraid the franchise will suffer for it. Everything has built up to Mary Jane. I can handle Harry as Green Goblin/Hobgoblin - but that should be the big end battle with an extra villain or two thrown in the mix. End battle. End of Oscorp. End of trilogy.

So does Mary Jane get wasted? I guess so. Weak way to end two movies of build-up.
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Originally posted by: Darth Simon
Originally posted by: Shimraa
i donno this might be stupid, but they could follow the show, and have harry and MJ fall into a portal, and both die.

which show was that?

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
A massive assumption is being made ... that IMDB is in any way a good resource for information on films that are still in production. It isn't.


I'm not saying it is, im just saying that if that truely is the plot then i dont have high hopes.

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Originally posted by: WaragainsttheCouncil
elizabethtown durnst = annoying

Raimi hasn't let me down. But bringing Gwen Stacy in at this time is bad mojo. It doesn't look like they have any plans of wrapping this up. I thought it was a trilogy - to end with III. Looks like money wins again, and I'm afraid the franchise will suffer for it. Everything has built up to Mary Jane. I can handle Harry as Green Goblin/Hobgoblin - but that should be the big end battle with an extra villain or two thrown in the mix. End battle. End of Oscorp. End of trilogy.

So does Mary Jane get wasted? I guess so. Weak way to end two movies of build-up.


But how bold would it have been to have her die in the first? Spiderman tries to choose both (the busload of people AND the main squeeze, that is), but fails with a tragic loss, making his final battle with GG all the more personal. Of course, in that case it would have made more sense to use Gwen Stacy...
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