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Post #197730

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theredbaron
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Superman Movie
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Date created
3-Apr-2006, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by: Warbler
There will be subtle deviations from tradition. The slogan "Truth, Justice and the American Way" won't be heard; instead, newspaper editor Perry White says "Truth, justice, all that stuff." It's a nuance that could help bolster international appeal, at a time when the image of the United States is not exactly at its zenith.


I know I'm going to get blasted, but I'm am American and changing to line to "Truth, justice and that stuff" is political correct bs. Superman may not have said the line in Superman II, but he did say it in Superman I. Superman is an American so he should fight for the American Way(and I don't mean Bushes way), and we as truth and Justice. It is a classic line and should not be altered just try to avoid offending nonAmericans. If they get offended, too bad. The movie should make the studios more than enough $$$ in US alone without worrying about pandering to the rest of the world. And if your worring about offending people, what about the Americans you'll be offending by taking out the line?


Superman is a Kryptonian, and he fights for humanity. Look at the first movie, Jor-El didn't send his son to America, he sent his son to Earth; and he didn't send him to help the Americans; he sent him to help humanity. It was by chance that Superman happened to land in Smallville, USA. If he landed in St. Petersburg, he'd be speaking Russian (even though he probably knows Russian anyway) and he'd be fighting for "Equality, Brotherhood, and the Russian Way." Hell, Superman per sé doesn't even live in the U.S.A - his Fortress of Solitude is in the North Pole for crying out loud! All I'm saying is that Superman doesn't suffer for the lack of nationalist rhetoric; rather, it helps put the whole story in its proper perspective.

Don't you think all that American Way crap is more at home with the Golden Age Superman? When was the last time you read the slogan in a Superman comic, and when was the last time you saw him fighting for the 'American Way'? If the new Superman movie was emblazoned with 'American Way', it would be received as a Team America minus the heavy satire. That is to say that the whole 'American Way' thing is not so much threatening or offensive to the world as it is just plain cheesy - hard to take seriously. Nobody wants to think that Superman fights for mom, apple pie, white picket fences and an SUV; not even democracy - comics are escapism, and I don't think comic fans place much faith in any of these things (not even American ones) - comic readers are people yearning for real heroes (not as in non-fictional, but genuine) in a world without heroes; real role-models; ones outside and above the spheres of politics, law, society, etc.

And let's not forget that Perry White's line is as much a throw-away one as anything else.

Perhaps it is weak, and perhaps it is motivated by not wanting to offend people, but if the line wasn't mentioned at all, the movie wouldn't suffer for it, and the spirit of the Superman mythos as a whole would be properly represented. If it was mentioned, however, it would be cringe-worthy to all non-Americans in the way that the Padmé/Anakin love scenes are cringeworthy to Star Wars fans (well, at least the ones that aren't creepy stalker types).