He said he couldn't talk about it. He was in a bad place right now, his wife just died.
He said, maybe some other time.
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The audio on the Alex Williams phone conversation is bad - I had made the mistake of leaving the camera plugged in, which caused electrical interference. You can understand every word that's being said, but it's covered by a LOUD annoying buzzing sound - meaning it's good for transcribing, but couldn't be released as audio for people to just enjoy listening to.