Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab

I'm trying to figure out why Isaac Hayes even is a scientologist. L. Ron was a noted racist. He once wrote to his wife when she complained of having to get on her knees to clean the floor, "Get yourself a nigger - that's what they're made for."

Holy crap. And people accuse us southerners of racism! What a total joke this whole blasted thing is. I hope if Hayes has any chldren they dis-own himor something. This is the most blatant hypocricy I thnk I've seen from a celebrity the etnire decade.

Okay, I'm gonna try to counter this in a civil mannor. This topic is making me pretty angry. Not because of Hayes' hypocrisy. Sure, it's a shame, but I don't know all the facts, and besides, everyone makes mistakes. His just happen to be publicized on Yahoo News!

The thing that's really making me angry is how some of you are reacting to the news. For example, the post I quoted. Why on earth would you hope a person's family DIS-OWNED them just because they, as far as you know (may not even be the case), made a mistake? So what if he baught into a scam, people are fooled ALL THE TIME. That doesn't mean you need to be ANGRY at them.

I'm going to give you an example. In the example, I'm going to use a celebrity, even though I think it's completely ridiculous to worry about what a celebrity does. Anyway, here's the example: Say that JESSICA ALBA did a show that made fun of people who use drugs. It shows how people who use drugs are "stupid." But then, later in the series, the creators made an episode that made fun of alcoholism.

Jessica Alba decides to QUIT the show, because she's a BEER SPOKESWOMAN and she doesn't want people to think badly of the product she's promoting.

This is the exact situation as Hayes quitting South Park, only the South Park situation deals with RELIGION instead of substances. You can argue that religion is ABOVE substances and therefor deserves more scrutinizing, but according to you guys, Scientology shouldn't be considered a religion, it should be considered a scam. Scams and addictive substances seem to be pretty close together, in my book.

Now, would you really wish that Jessica Alba was DIS-OWNED because she, arguably, made a mistake? I mean, the way I look at it, you don't know anything about her personal life. You don't know why she promotes beer. Just like you don't know why Isaac Hayes believes in Scientology. As far as you know, Jessica Alba might not even DRINK beer, just like as stated earlier in this topic, Isaac Hayes might not even be practicing Scientology, but is merely in a situation where he can't leave.

On that operation clam bake site, they talk about how the higher-ups in Scientology keep a file on all their members, with confessions they've made. Some Celebrities are black mailed into doing things like quitting a show because it bashes on Scientology.

I mean, have you wondered WHY it took him so long to speak out against that episode? It originally aired way back in NOVEMBER. That's 5 months ago. It's kinda odd that he just ALL OF A SUDDEN noticed that they were talking about his religion.

Now, this is merely an assumption. I don't know Isaac Hayes' situation, but the point I'm trying to make is, neither do you. You don't know why he's in with that church, what he does at that church, or if he even believes in that church.

All you know is the VERY little bit of information that was posted in these two short articles. That's hardly enough to form an opinion so strong as to hope his children DIS-OWN him. Besides, let's agree for a moment that he REALLY DOES believe in this stuff. Let's say that he actually feels very strong about his religion. Would it really make him a bad person? I mean, sure the scam artist could be considered a bad person. The person who lures in people who've lost their sense of direction and don't know what to do with their lives, for his own selfish agenda. But that does NOT mean that the people who he's lured into his scam are bad people.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as evil by association. Especially not when the association is, apparently, victim.

So, what I've concluded is the fallowing:
1) We don't have near enough facts to judge this man.
2) Even if the facts we've been presented with are true, that still wouldn't make him bad. Just a confused human.

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Oh yeah, I forgot one thing. Darth Chaltab, at the end of your post, you say that this is "the most blatant hypocricy I thnk[sic] I've seen from a celebrity the etnire[sic] decade." Why should that even matter? I mean, honestly...

There are only two times I can think of hypocricy affecting your life, and that is A) When someone you personally know is a hypocrite. Or B) When a politician is hypocritical. I can't think of why a celebrity's hypocricy should even matter in the long run (or short run, for that matter). Why on earth would you honestly care about how someone who you've never met before, and probably never will, acts? Does it honestly affect you so much that you would wish for the person to have a bad life (in this case, his family dis-owning him)?