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Thanks, guys!

I'm good for an occasional idea, but I don't have any editing skills myself (or time, for that matter).

To be honest, I was thinking of a less dramatic edit to ANH that might still work in the scheme of the Starkiller Ranch edit. Like this:

The attack on the Death Star can still happen, and Luke still makes the shot, but the explosion only disables the Death Star, and part of it survives. (This would of course require new effects on the Death Star explosion scene.) Maybe we can redub General Dodonna so that before the attack he says "A direct hit should cause a chain reaction that disables the station"). Then we still get the end celebration, since the Rebels have saved the day for now.

Now here's a new part I just thought of. Move the ROTJ opening scene over Endor to the beginning of ESB. (I've always felt that the opening for ESB was a little weak.) The Empire has already started repairing the station. This keeps the Death Star in the story, so it doesn't feel so rehashed in ROTJ. To spice things up, see if it's possible to replace Endor with Mustafar in this opening shot.

Vader lands and tells the new Grand Moff that he's there to get the project back on schedule. Cut the mention of the Emperor. Cut to Star Destroyer launching probes. Then use the ESB Special Edition shot of Vader's shuttle approaching the Super Star Destroyer to get to the fleet, so he has time to check out the fleet and then get the report about the rebels on Hoth. Continue with rest of movie as planned.

For ROTJ, start out with a new opening shot, or maybe heavily modify the original opening shot and have the Emperor show up at the beginning. Commander Courage's idea about moving the Dagobah scenes to the beginning work well, so maybe a new opening shot panning down on Dagobah would work.

Regardless, I really hope somebody can use some of these ideas.

Erik

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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The Death Star only being damaged, resulting in its appearance in RotJ, does seem to be the most obvious solution. However, without a complete destruction of the battle station the end of ANH would be too confusing. The Rebels wouldn't be hanging around celebrating, they'd be getting the hell out of there. And what about Tarkin and all the other officers on the Death Star? How would it be made clear they died in the attack? Constructing a Vader/Palpatine conversation about repairing the damaged Death Star would aslo be much more difficult than referencing a *destroyed* Death Star.

There might be a way to pull it all together, but as you can see there would be much to overcome.
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It seems to me that the way to take the confusion out of this would to seperate Yavin from the Death Star. The Rebellion would fly out to where ever the DS was and disable it. That should be able to finish without a whole lot of problems.
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However, you would then lose the entire "tension" that builds from the Death Star circling the planet and preparing to destroy Leia and the Rebellion. It would only be a battle to blow the thing up........as opposed to blowing it up with a very short time frame before it kills everyone they know and love.
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This talk of an epic with overture, intermission, exit music, and so on is very interesting. So much so that after this saga is done, perhaps it would be a worthwhile project to make an epic out of our Ep. 4, 5, and 6, and then make another epic using our Ep. I, SOTDS, and our version of ROTS as a base. Perhaps the first epic could just consist of 2 and 3 alone. Anyhow, I think that the epic idea would be even more neat actually based on our version of the saga, rather than a separate edit. I think that once people begin seeing these films, there might some enthusiasm from other fan editors to use our films as a base for derivative projects. That might be an option. However, I'd be against an Ep. IV where the Death Star is not destroyed- as part of my films. Again, for the epic idea, this becomes a lot more feasible.

I also wanted to bring up that although I had once toyed with the idea of re-editing ROTJ, that honor really goes to CC, InfoDroid, and the others that came up with the original ideas and are passionate about re-editing the OT to fit (which admittedly was not my original plan- however, there's certainly nothing wrong with trying). I also don't think we have to wait on ROTS, SW, and TESB to re-edit ROTJ. However, I think that before ROTJ gets off the ground, we should have the kind of major conceptual discussion on Ep. III that we had on Ep. II and I, so that the ROTJ editors know where things are going. But that's a little ways off....

Keep up the great work! I'm trying to keep up on time with my end of the deal

-TM

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
Thanks, guys!

I'm good for an occasional idea, but I don't have any editing skills myself (or time, for that matter).

To be honest, I was thinking of a less dramatic edit to ANH that might still work in the scheme of the Starkiller Ranch edit. Like this:

The attack on the Death Star can still happen, and Luke still makes the shot, but the explosion only disables the Death Star, and part of it survives. (This would of course require new effects on the Death Star explosion scene.) Maybe we can redub General Dodonna so that before the attack he says "A direct hit should cause a chain reaction that disables the station"). Then we still get the end celebration, since the Rebels have saved the day for now.

Now here's a new part I just thought of. Move the ROTJ opening scene over Endor to the beginning of ESB. (I've always felt that the opening for ESB was a little weak.) The Empire has already started repairing the station. This keeps the Death Star in the story, so it doesn't feel so rehashed in ROTJ. To spice things up, see if it's possible to replace Endor with Mustafar in this opening shot.

Vader lands and tells the new Grand Moff that he's there to get the project back on schedule. Cut the mention of the Emperor. Cut to Star Destroyer launching probes. Then use the ESB Special Edition shot of Vader's shuttle approaching the Super Star Destroyer to get to the fleet, so he has time to check out the fleet and then get the report about the rebels on Hoth. Continue with rest of movie as planned.

For ROTJ, start out with a new opening shot, or maybe heavily modify the original opening shot and have the Emperor show up at the beginning. Commander Courage's idea about moving the Dagobah scenes to the beginning work well, so maybe a new opening shot panning down on Dagobah would work.

Regardless, I really hope somebody can use some of these ideas.

Erik
this makes it work in perfrect sense. Man this project is becoming so much like my own personal 'vision' of the saga is crazy. I love it



Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Originally posted by: Darth Richard:
ahh thanks InfoDriod that was really nice


And, did I mention, you've got great taste in avatars?


--InfoDroid

what can i say
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Somebody's sig on this site mentioned hyperspace starlines (or whatever they are called) not being sceen in the prequel trilogy, but being in the Classic trilogy? Any plans to add them anywhere? I believe there is an actual TPM cut scene where they were supposed to be in the film.

I got this quote from the Illustrated Screenplay from T-bone's site.


INT. COCKPIT - SPACE
RIC OLIÉ pulls back on the hyperdrive. OBI-WAN, QUI-GON, and ANAKIN watch.

Qui-Gon
Let's hope this hyperdrive works
and Watto didn't get the last laugh.

The stars streak outside the cockpit window.

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We're looking into what can be done with masking the cockpit windows, and possibly adding a hyperspace effect. It seems only right for us to see it in the first film. TJ is already trying something similar with the windows behind Anakin's cockpit in the end space battle scenes, not with hyperspace, but with manipulating what's happening outside the windows.

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Here's some Screenshots.
Updated second shot.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3521/tatooine12df.jpg

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9173/naboofightersglowcopy2me.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1825/naboo18te.jpg

"You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could...you never stopped to think if you should." - Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park
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TJ,

Nice looking screens. I know what you've done with the first one. Can you say what's been done to the other two?

Thanks,
Erik

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Those screenshots are awsome! What edit are they from?


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They're from the Starkiller Ranch edit.

Just to explain: The first one depicts a new approach to the planet of Tatooine before "landing near the outskirts". The second one is a triumphant "flying home" shot after the droid control ship has been destroyed to match the end of ANH and ROTJ. And the third is a newly created shot of Nute's shuttle landing on Naboo just after the Jedi rescue the Queen.

These are just three of a series of new shots being created for our edit of Episode I.

--InfoDroid

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Hello everyone!

I've just recently found this forum/thread and I am amazed at what is taking place with these edits! (that also goes for SOTDS too!)
Hopefully some of my own ideas you can use...or at least maybe give you something to think about!

Erikstormtrooper: I love the idea of placing the first scene of ROTJ in ESB (although I wouldn't want to change the ending of ANH)
However, I don't know if placing it at the beginning of ESB would work. Unless someone was able to change the apperence of the death star, the question becomes: Why hasn't the death star been completed from ESB to ROTJ?...maybe seeing the death star the way we saw it in ROTS could work?
I guess I like the idea of seeing the death star in some form in ESB. It goes along with the whole saga feel you guys are going for!

A small idea for ANH: The scene of Tarkin listening to that officer talking about the abandoned rebel base...shouldn't that be a hologram instead? ANH seems to be the only movie that doesn't have any kind of hologram! I think Tarkins eyes move away towards Vader or something...but you could then cut to a close up of the officer...? I know, I know, it's probably a huge pain to do...sure would be cool though!

Keep up the good work!

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Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888

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InfoDroid,

Awesome! This is so cool that y'all are creating new shots to bridge scenes. You guys should let TJ out of his box more often


SomethingStarWarsRelated,

I agree that something should be done to make the Death Star look different if it's used for ESB - maybe something as simple as using photoshop to cut away a little more. But as to why the Death Star might not be completed by the time of ROTJ, well, the first DS was started in ROTS, and wasn't completed until 18 years later in ANH. I figure the second Death Star should take a long time to build as well - at least 5 years.

"ANH seems to be the only movie that doesn't have any kind of hologram!" You may be forgetting one little scene in Ben's hut. Aside from the coolness factor of Tarkin talking to a hologram, would this have any payoff plot-wise?

Erik

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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"A small idea for ANH: The scene of Tarkin listening to that officer talking about the abandoned rebel base...shouldn't that be a hologram instead? ANH seems to be the only movie that doesn't have any kind of hologram!"

Help me obi-wan kenobi, your my only hope?????

Seriously though, I think it would be cool to show a holo of an imperial officer on the table, however at the moment we are discussing a "variation" on that idea. But that is a good one!
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Man, do I feel stupid, Erikstormtrooper!
Excellent points you've made!

"Aside from the coolness factor of Tarkin talking to a hologram, would this have any payoff plot-wise?"
Not that I'm aware of. The only reason I bring this up is for consistency. To me, that scene just begs for a hologram!

SSWR’s YouTube channel

Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888

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You guys should let TJ out of his box more often


Nah, I like it where I am. I wouldn't get anything done if they let me out more often.
"You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could...you never stopped to think if you should." - Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park
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TJ, I don't think you've made it clear to them how much you loooove doing special effects work.

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"You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could...you never stopped to think if you should." - Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park
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Do youy guys think we need a logo for the Starkiller Ranch?

http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/starkiller.jpg

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
Do youy guys think we need a logo for the Starkiller Ranch?

http://www.erikstormtrooper.com/starkiller.jpg

That rocks!!!that should be before the movie starts, the LFL logo should morf into that
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GREAT job, Erik!

I actually photoshopped one of these a few months ago but it didn't come out as good as this! That's why I never posted it. But, this is EXACTLY how I wanted it to look! And red is an interesting choice for the color. I hadn't even thought of that. I think this should definitely go at the beginning of our edits.

I might fool with the glow a little, but it looks awesome! Thanks again, Erik!

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WOW.

I had no idea that newly created spaceship shots were going into this movie. They look amazing, and I assume they are DVD quality to go with the other footage. And that "ranch" logo is very impressive. Of course, I would not want it to replace the Lucasfilm logo, but it should come before the 20th century fox fanfare, before the movie. We should also have a paragraph of text explaining the criteria that must be met for legitimate ownership of the discs. Anyhow, that's very nice.

I'm waiting to see the test cut of the movie with incredible anticipation, just like everyone else. Keep up the wonderful work, and I think we'll be able to release Ep. I and Ep. II together, dropping a bombshell on the fans.

-TM

P.S.- One quick note; I've done something in Ep. II that you may want to address here as well. You'll notice a huge discrepancy in computer monitors for the original trilogy and computer monitors for the PT. I have redone monitors (in Jango's ship, for instance), to be more in the style of the old graphics. The most important thing is that the readouts are not fluid; they're jerky. Also, there are typically numbers scrolling on the bottom. I think this would be an impressive aesthetic change if you could pull it off in Ep. I.

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition