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Jaiman Tuckuh
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Frustrated with DVD burning
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5-Mar-2006, 2:43 AM
Wow... it took a long time to save that last post, up there. Maybe I'd better be careful, after all... :-)

Am I overdoing it with the bold type? Yeah, probably, huh?


Originally posted by: bad_karma24
Looks like I'll be using 2x instead of 8x from now on. Bleh.

Try it and see. <shrug> Try 4X first. Firmware and good media are your best shot (yeahyahyah good media, blahblahblah). Firmware can also help with reading discs. In fact, you can update the firmware for standalone players, too. But I don't know how you would go about it.

The labels seem to be working fine, I think its more of a problem with the disc itself. Or... I tried playing Hannibal back today and it worked fine, even in scenes where it completely froze.


Intermittant problems with playback is another sign of deteriorating media and/or a bad burn - copy that sucker right away. Sometimes error-correction will kick in better than other times. But if it gave you problems once, its probably deteriorating. There could be random errors from vibration caused by the label - but there would also have to be a high error-rate on the disc, for you to ever see your computer lock up on a read-error.

I'm using the labels that adhere... would the heat generated from spinning have something to do with it? Thanks guys!


Heat might cause the adhesive to loosen... that would cause vibration, or, like MeBeJedi said, it might actually lift. Sticky bits in the machine? I don't want to think about that...

From what I've read, I'd avoid disc labels for DVDs. But I really couldn't say.

Labels actually seem to stabilize & protect CDs. But DVDs spin faster, the data is much denser - they are sensitive to vibration. A label that isn't applied inhumanly-perfectly can (theoretically) throw things off, at that speed. And you'll always get tiny bubbles. I'm not sure if its ever been a problem in the real world. But it might contribute.


By the way, I don't know if it's safe to remove a label from a DVD. But if you do, then take some Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol, and gently clean off every trace of the gum (or the gum will unbalance the disc a bit). Don't remove labels from CDs, they're built differently, the data layer is near the top & the shellac could peel right off.


Hmmm... maybe heat could change the reflectivity of the dye, or something. A very-hot machine will tend to be running a little off-spec... Also, if the disc is heated before you actually play it, the layers wll expand, physically. Stuff like that. I could see where that might trigger something, maybe. Possibly. I think. It could explain why the problem showed up later in the disc, and then on the computer. Then again, I don't know what I'm talking about there. And errors are more likely later in the disc.


Note to self: Start watching Mythbusters.