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Wasn't it all a reference to the Infinite Crisis, when DC Comics 'cleaned house'?

And again Ingo, your posts make zero sense if you don't actually tell us what it is that messed with your head...but besides that, I fail to see how Pixar could have envisioned such a negative reaction to their film, a) because it does not seem to be a universal reaction and b) seems to be related to something specific to a negative childhood experience of yours.

BTW, I thought it was a very clever stab at the litigation age we have entered to have citizens suing superheroes left, right, and centre! It's not too far from the truth, either - if I saved someone's life giving them CPR, and I broke one of their ribs in the process, they could probably sue me.
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Wasn't it all a reference to the Infinite Crisis, when DC Comics 'cleaned house'?

And again Ingo, your posts make zero sense if you don't actually tell us what it is that messed with your head...but besides that, I fail to see how Pixar could have envisioned such a negative reaction to their film, a) because it does not seem to be a universal reaction and b) seems to be related to something specific to a negative childhood experience of yours.

BTW, I thought it was a very clever stab at the litigation age we have entered to have citizens suing superheroes left, right, and centre! It's not too far from the truth, either - if I saved someone's life giving them CPR, and I broke one of their ribs in the process, they could probably sue me.


Yeah, I loved that concept. Really hilarous. Of course, in real life contexts, it does make you grumble about the overabundance of litigation. Seriously, what kind of idiot would sue you for giving him CPR?

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Because ribs can be broken while giving chest compressions.

I remember back in '90, my car caught on fire. It was a volkswagon, and the battery is under the back seat. While reaching into the back, I apparently pressed the seat springs down far enough to make contact with the battery terminals. I, of course, was unaware of this, and walked away from the car. Minutes later, a maintanence man for my apartment complex saw smoke coming from inside my car. He grabbed a fire extinguisher, broke open one of my windows, and put out the fire (the whole interior was covered with yellow chemical retardent powder.)

Anyways, the manager called my apartment, and when I got back to the car, the fire department and police were there. One of the officers was talking to the maintenance guy, and then he came over to talk to me. He had to ask me if I wanted to press charges against the maintenance worker for breaking my window.

While I understand the basic necessity of asking the question, I was completely floored nonetheless. Of course, I DIDN'T press charges, but it was at that point I understood why the maintenance guy looked so concerned when the cop was talking to him. As for myself, I was grateful to him that all I had to replace was a broken window, rather than an entire car.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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An extremely homophobic person maybe, but other than that...

But a lot of the Incredibles is taking a jab at serious issues in modern society. Like when Bob says "They keep inventing new ways to celebrate mediocrity!" So much of that is true in the real world, like the ninties and "Results based education" that was more about Self Esteem than actually teaching kids things.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Originally posted by: theredbaron
Wasn't it all a reference to the Infinite Crisis, when DC Comics 'cleaned house'?

And again Ingo, your posts make zero sense if you don't actually tell us what it is that messed with your head...but besides that, I fail to see how Pixar could have envisioned such a negative reaction to their film, a) because it does not seem to be a universal reaction and b) seems to be related to something specific to a negative childhood experience of yours.

BTW, I thought it was a very clever stab at the litigation age we have entered to have citizens suing superheroes left, right, and centre! It's not too far from the truth, either - if I saved someone's life giving them CPR, and I broke one of their ribs in the process, they could probably sue me.


Yeah, I loved that concept. Really hilarous. Of course, in real life contexts, it does make you grumble about the overabundance of litigation. Seriously, what kind of idiot would sue you for giving him CPR?

Of course, the irony is that ordinary citizens (meaning people not employed in a life-saving capacity) have no obligation to take heroic measures to save another person's life. THAT's what makes The Incredibles scenario absurdly real.

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Wasn't it all a reference to the Infinite Crisis, when DC Comics 'cleaned house'?


Actually the closest reference to existing comics stories would be to Alan Moore's excellent series 'Watchmen' which came out in the 80s. Though 'Watchmen' was far from being aimed at kids there are several similar themes and I have to believe that more than one of the creators of 'The Incredibles' was more than passingly familiar with 'Watchmen'.

Oddly a studio is in pre-production on a 'Watchmen' film which I honestly hope never gets made- 1) Because 'The Incredibles' *did* cover some of the same ground in a much more family-centric way and 2) because I don't think any filmmaker will be able to do justice (no pun intended) to 'Watchmen' and instead I feel it will become yet another 'action figures and happy meal' movie which is FAR from the actual intent of the story.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/watchmen/watchmen-movie-poster.jpg

http://www.toonopedia.com/watchmen.jpg

http://www.yeray-muaddib.com/watchmen/strip7.jpg

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Heh, that's pretty funny, although something of a kick in the groin to people expecting the villain to show all his cards. Make the hero actually do some work?! Heaven forbid.

I'm having a helluva time trying to find picutres of Elastigirl in her "Golden Age" costume, by the way. Pretty hot. Any help would be appreciated.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Are they? Incredibles wasn't quite as successful as their other films. Besides, the only reason they made Toy Story II was because it was under contract with Disney. Pixar likes to do new stuff.

"I'm having a helluva time trying to find picutres of Elastigirl in her "Golden Age" costume, by the way. Pretty hot. Any help would be appreciated."

Will this do?

http://img18.exs.cx/img18/5320/incredibles7wk.jpg

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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That is pretty hot, I have to admit. Actually, I first admitted it when I came across it in my own search. I guess we used the same search terms. But then again, there can't be that much variation, can there?

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Blonde, brunette.....they're all pink where it counts.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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This has got to be the most stupidest thread ever. You don't like a movie because it brought up bad childhood memories? Then don't watch the movie, moron! Writing to the makers to complain? Posting a whole topic about how its stupid because it brought back some bad memories? Jesus! At least realise that it is no fault of the film and a specific, subjective emotional reaction based totally off your experiences and not because of the content of the film itself. I mean, I'm sorry that you were made uncomfortable by certain parts of a movie, but that inevitably happens to anyone who has lived an experinced life. Why you would continue to dwell on it any longer than that is beyond me.

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You know flamming is wrong. Its the point of these fourms to state your opinion without getting blasted.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Heh, that's pretty funny, although something of a kick in the groin to people expecting the villain to show all his cards. Make the hero actually do some work?! Heaven forbid.

I'm having a helluva time trying to find picutres of Elastigirl in her "Golden Age" costume, by the way. Pretty hot. Any help would be appreciated.


I don't think Elastigirl existed in the golden age...

http://www.angelfire.com/ar/hellUSA/elastigirl.jpg
http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/images/Elastigirl01.jpg

Is this the costume you meant?

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Yeah, she existed in the Golden Age. She was first in the interview at the beginning of the movie with Mr. Incredible and Frozone. A few minutes later, she and Mr. Incredible argue over taking down a bad guy. Then she does that cool move where she uses her elastic powers to maneuver through his body. And then, that night, they get married.

And I appreciate you looking for the pictures, but I can't confirm or deny if that's what I'm looking for because I can't see either of them.

EDIT: Thanks, Chaltab, but I think that might be DC's Elastigirl. Pixar got into a bit of trouble using the name because it was already an existing superhero, so all outside merchandising referred to her as Mrs. Incredible.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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D'oh.

I thought you MEANT DC's Elastigirl... Of course Incredibles Elastigirl exited in their golden age.

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Hehe, sorry for the confusion, but, yeah, I did mean Elastigirl from The Incredibles.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Did you find any pics of her during the goldenage?
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I'm not really a fan of Pixar in general. The animation looks all modern and clean, but I find them only to be mildy entertaining. I thought The Incredibles was fun to watch at the theater one time, and then I forgot aabout it. It was like it was not memorable to me...speaking of memories. But I realize this is just my opinion. I really don't care for cgi at all. Only the bare minimum is my style.
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I only had a couple nitpicks with the movie. Wouldn't all the supervillians run amok after the supers have been forcibly "retired"? (Darn lucky thing the Underminer didn't show up earlier!) The superhero ban seems like it only was instituted in the U.S., so any supers in Europe or elsewhere would simply thumb their noses at it, even if they had to stay on their side of the pond. Still a fun movie though.
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Maybe the supervillains didn't want things to be too easy for them. You know how villains are. I think it was said earlier in the thread about their monologuing and giving the heroes every chance to escape. With no heroes, their jobs would be too easy. Where's the fun?!

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Maybe the supervillains didn't want things to be too easy for them. You know how villains are. I think it was said earlier in the thread about their monologuing and giving the heroes every chance to escape. With no heroes, their jobs would be too easy. Where's the fun?!
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Yeah.... that's surprisingly similar to what I said. I wonder how that happened...?

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Yeah.... that's surprisingly similar to what I said. I wonder how that happened...?