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Discs 2 and 3 have been uploaded!!

Great Movie Stunts: Raiders of the Lost Ark + bonus featurette
DF002

Great Adventurers and their Quests: The Making of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
DF003
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Does anyone have the Japanese Laserdisc boxed set for Indy? The TOD trailer is different from the ones on the official boxed set and I wanted to try and get a better copy of it. Anyone?

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Here's something that might do for the DVD-ROM content...

http://ww2.sharebigfile.com/index.php?download=9SAUB6wZ5PJxIOH5uRBZ
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Originally posted by: Vess
Here's something that might do for the DVD-ROM content...

http://ww2.sharebigfile.com/index.php?download=9SAUB6wZ5PJxIOH5uRBZ


what is it?
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It looks like a bunch of different Indy scripts for the 3 movies (different revisions and stuff).

To contact me outside the forum, for trades and such my email address is my OT.com username @gmail.com

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Hello!

I just joined this forum and would like to say big THANK YOU to all of you who are preserving movies and related "making of "materials. I've been a die hard "making of" collector for a while now and most precious footage in my collection is press footage featured on so-called Electronic Press Kits - EPKs that usually feature unedited b-roll and interviews (sadly, only for newer films, but sourced directly from broadcast quality betacam SP masters). My collection consists mostly of SF films like Star Wars saga, Star Trek saga, Blade Runner, 2001, Alien saga, Back to the future and newer stuff like Batman Begins, The Island, Matrix trilogy, Constantine, Lord of the Rings trilogy...). If anyone is interested in full list, let me know. Anyhow, it's good to know there is more people sharing my passion! May the force be with us...

Regarding Indiana Jones I have a few clips of very good quality that might be interesting enough for inclusion on the next Indy DVD:
INDIANA JONES: EPIC STUNT SPECTACULAR (1:47) From Disneyworld EPK
MOVIE MISTAKES: INDIANA JONES TRILOGY (2:40) Recent TV report from Croatian TV, with Croatian narration
1985 ACADEMY AWARDS (3:30) Unknown source, features short intro and segment of awarded SFX crew of TOD
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Originally posted by: tb1971
Hello!

I just joined this forum and would like to say big THANK YOU to all of you who are preserving movies and related "making of "materials. I've been a die hard "making of" collector for a while now and most precious footage in my collection is press footage featured on so-called Electronic Press Kits - EPKs that usually feature unedited b-roll and interviews (sadly, only for newer films, but sourced directly from broadcast quality betacam SP masters). My collection consists mostly of SF films like Star Wars saga, Star Trek saga, Blade Runner, 2001, Alien saga, Back to the future and newer stuff like Batman Begins, The Island, Matrix trilogy, Constantine, Lord of the Rings trilogy...). If anyone is interested in full list, let me know. Anyhow, it's good to know there is more people sharing my passion! May the force be with us...

Regarding Indiana Jones I have a few clips of very good quality that might be interesting enough for inclusion on the next Indy DVD:
INDIANA JONES: EPIC STUNT SPECTACULAR (1:47) From Disneyworld EPK
MOVIE MISTAKES: INDIANA JONES TRILOGY (2:40) Recent TV report from Croatian TV, with Croatian narration
1985 ACADEMY AWARDS (3:30) Unknown source, features short intro and segment of awarded SFX crew of TOD


The last segment was included on a babyhum DVD. I guess the other two could be included in a future one if you would like. You could send me a copy, for sure, since i'm the one doing all the Indy discs. PM me?
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what about doing laserdisc transfers of the movies themselves?

did'nt they change the audio and video on the dvd release?

Theres the full screen cav release of Raiders of the lost ark.

The letterbox versions of the trilogy.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
what about doing laserdisc transfers of the movies themselves?

did'nt they change the audio and video on the dvd release?

Theres the full screen cav release of Raiders of the lost ark.

The letterbox versions of the trilogy.


They didn't touch the audio or the video of the movies. This was already addressed. Read the thread.
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You could preserve the widescreeen Raiders LD so you could hear the wrong sound effect of the staff being dropped into the map room, but I hardly think that's a worthwhile project.

Now if only someone could find the rumored Barbara Streisand Temple of Doom outtake...

Neil

Well at least the reversed surround channels have been addressed.

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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
what about doing laserdisc transfers of the movies themselves?

did'nt they change the audio and video on the dvd release?

Theres the full screen cav release of Raiders of the lost ark.

The letterbox versions of the trilogy.


They didn't touch the audio or the video of the movies. This was already addressed. Read the thread.


Not to nit-pick, but as we all know, that's not entirely true. There were a few qualitative changes made, none of which affected the overall content of the film. That is to say, the film released on DVD is essentially the same as the one we've watched for years.

The obvious things I won't go over are removal of matte lines and "cleaning" up certain shots, but a 'Raiders' preservation project would be interesting to some.

For starters, Dark Jedi preserved the "Faces" LD Star Wars set, which basically was a DVD back up of the Laser Disc pressings. Good idea, why not for Indiana Jones?

Second, the sound mix on the 'Raiders' LD is different from the DVD, most noticeably in the jungle sequence at the start, and of course throughout the whole film. It's worth hearing, as I believe it is the original theatrical mix.

Finally, it's worth it because everyone should be able to see the film the way it was, warts and all.

If only we could get ahold of the original theatrical cut (from '81, not subsequent release prints) which reportedly had a few additional scenes with Pat Roach fighting Indy in the Raven.

Actually, come to think of it, if anyone wants to make an "ultimate" Raiders package, contact me. I have a few neat things that would make great DVD-ROM content like the original Collector's album and Illustrated Screenplay which would be cool to scan...or something.
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Second, the sound mix on the 'Raiders' LD is different from the DVD, most noticeably in the jungle sequence at the start, and of course throughout the whole film. It's worth hearing, as I believe it is the original theatrical mix.

If only we could get ahold of the original theatrical cut (from '81, not subsequent release prints) which reportedly had a few additional scenes with Pat Roach fighting Indy in the Raven.

I've seen enough vintage prints (and new prints) of Raiders over the years to know that what you are saying is entirely wrong. Caught it twice last year the theater and am going again next month. Different prints, different venues and always the same movie. No longer fights or different mixes.

How do these rumors get started?

Neil

Well at least the reversed surround channels have been addressed.

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Originally posted by: Neil S. Bulk
Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Second, the sound mix on the 'Raiders' LD is different from the DVD, most noticeably in the jungle sequence at the start, and of course throughout the whole film. It's worth hearing, as I believe it is the original theatrical mix.

If only we could get ahold of the original theatrical cut (from '81, not subsequent release prints) which reportedly had a few additional scenes with Pat Roach fighting Indy in the Raven.

I've seen enough vintage prints (and new prints) of Raiders over the years to know that what you are saying is entirely wrong. Caught it twice last year the theater and am going again next month. Different prints, different venues and always the same movie. No longer fights or different mixes.

How do these rumors get started?

Neil



Through posts like these.

Same here. I've seen Raiders 3 times (I believe) in the last few years. Always the same. I've seen old prints and new prints...and I will be at the same screenings as Neil.

Other than the staff sound, the rest is exactly what I've always heard. It's very possible that it was a different sound mix than you're used to. Remember the star wars issues?

And I'd love to see some comparison shots of the cleaning up. From what i know, the only cleaning up that was done was to the original film...and removing the snake reflection...which is still there but just barely.
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Um - all the Indy films were remixed in 5.1, right?
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Whoah, whoah, whoah...no intention of confrontation here. I'm the first one to quash rumours of differences in the films. Look back and you'll see that I shot down the one about the humming of the Ark after the credits.

In the 1981 print of 'Raiders' the Raven Bar fight was a few shots longer - basically Indy getting thrown around more. It was dropped from later prints.

As for the sound mix, I guess what I'm getting at is that the DVD was remixed - for the better, but the original LD sound mix would be neat as a comparison, that's all.

'Raiders' is my favourite film of all time, and I've seen it dozens of times in several venues from 16mm to 35mm to VHS, Laser and DVD. It's the same movie I remember. The DVD did in fact "clean up" matte lines, the snake reflection, the guide track from the boulder and that's about it.

All I was saying is that it's slightly tweaked. If this were Star Wars, there would be a huge effort to duplicate the original from LD, that's all.

Is it worthwhile? Who knows. To me it is but I can always dust off the disc and fire it up, I guess.

So please, don't say I'm starting something because I'll be the first to shoot down the conspiracy theorists.
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Whoah, whoah, whoah...no intention of confrontation here.

In the 1981 print of 'Raiders' the Raven Bar fight was a few shots longer - basically Indy getting thrown around more. It was dropped from later prints.



Where did you get that from? I actually saw a VERY old print of Raiders the first time i saw it on the big screen a few years ago. There were no differences.
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Not entirely sure about this, but when the DVDs were released people complained that the gunshots during the Raven bar fight sounded muffled and not as powerful as they did in other releases. Can anyone verify this?
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Whoah, whoah, whoah...no intention of confrontation here.

In the 1981 print of 'Raiders' the Raven Bar fight was a few shots longer - basically Indy getting thrown around more. It was dropped from later prints.



Where did you get that from? I actually saw a VERY old print of Raiders the first time i saw it on the big screen a few years ago. There were no differences.



Well, from what I understand the scene was shortened from the '82 re-release. Do I remember it, exactly? Of course not, I was 6 years old when I first saw 'Raiders' on the big screen in 1981. The following year I saw it about half a dozen times. In my original post, I said "reportedly" the scene was changed. It's what I've heard from others on Indiana Jones message boards, and it appears on IMDB in the "Alternate Version" section.

Of course IMDB is no where near a reputable source, as it is all user submitted info. There's just enough there to suggest that it's possible. It doesn't really matter in so much as everyone remembers the 1982 re-release print which was then used for the VHS and Laserdisc releases.

I've seen 'Raiders' prints (ranging fro very, very old, to very, very new) subsequently over the years several times, and it has not changed on DVD with the exception of the FX cleanups and audio re-mix.

That's all...We'll never now for sure obviously, since it's damn near impossible to get ahold of the 1981 print.
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The DVD 5.1 mix is officially described by LFL as new. So the answer to ShiftyEyes's question lies there. It also brings up a valid preservation question, as the stereo mix is no longer available. As TheCassidy says, if it were Star Wars...
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Originally posted by: THX
The DVD 5.1 mix is officially described by LFL as new. So the answer to ShiftyEyes's question lies there. It also brings up a valid preservation question, as the stereo mix is no longer available. As TheCassidy says, if it were Star Wars...


If it were star wars, we'd have widely varying differences between different soundtrack releases with varying sound effects and lines of dialogue. Nothing for the Indy DVD's were newly recorded nor different from the "original" release as we all know it. The rest have been debunked as conspiracy theories.
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Does that include the "Jewish families" line in Last Crusade?

And what exactly is the alternate staff drop sound Neil mentions?
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Originally posted by: THX
Does that include the "Jewish families" line in Last Crusade?

And what exactly is the alternate staff drop sound Neil mentions?


That line was never in there. I believe the only place that was heard is the original storybook CD. That's another bullshit rumor.
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
Originally posted by: THX
Does that include the "Jewish families" line in Last Crusade?

And what exactly is the alternate staff drop sound Neil mentions?


That line was never in there. I believe the only place that was heard is the original storybook CD. That's another bullshit rumor.


Agreed. As is the carving of Threepio and Artoo in the Well of Souls...Or Is it?
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still, a remix is inherently different from the original mix