Originally posted by: ricarleite
Yes, I agree that recently too many trolls have flooded this forum - which, by the way, was never really troll free - but I have to disagree with you there on Jay don't caring about it. I'm positive he does, and what he has comented and done on the subject proves it. But still he is faced with a dillema: being this a free forum, who can judge if someone should be banned or not, or what one can post or not? I gotta say I've writtensome crappy posts before, does that make me a troll, or does that make me someone to be banned? Of course, there a re a few cases in which that person's presence is intolerable, and for these cases Jay has acted banning that person.
writing a crappy post every once in a while doesn't make you a troll. Writing clearly immature obscenity ladened posts that areb clearly and solely written to insult someone, and doing it over and over and over again makes someone a troll. Yes Jay has banned people, but he let one person come back the cleared should have been banned permanently. The person clearly has not learned his lesson a Jay has done nothing about him. Other trolls have joined and Jay has taken no action. Yes Jay should be very carefull and be slow to take action, but sometimes action must be taken. If you don't take action against the trolls, the trolls will start to control the forum.
how bout we have certain areas, where everyone would be allowed to read, but only selected members would be able to post? Also I hate to say it, but I think this forum needs an age limit. I'd have it so only those who are 16 or older would be able to join. The would help cut down the childish posts that are increasing.
Originally posted by: ricarleite
What you COULD do is to ignore the trolling and focus on what you want...
Yes, I agree that recently too many trolls have flooded this forum - which, by the way, was never really troll free - but I have to disagree with you there on Jay don't caring about it. I'm positive he does, and what he has comented and done on the subject proves it. But still he is faced with a dillema: being this a free forum, who can judge if someone should be banned or not, or what one can post or not? I gotta say I've writtensome crappy posts before, does that make me a troll, or does that make me someone to be banned? Of course, there a re a few cases in which that person's presence is intolerable, and for these cases Jay has acted banning that person.
writing a crappy post every once in a while doesn't make you a troll. Writing clearly immature obscenity ladened posts that areb clearly and solely written to insult someone, and doing it over and over and over again makes someone a troll. Yes Jay has banned people, but he let one person come back the cleared should have been banned permanently. The person clearly has not learned his lesson a Jay has done nothing about him. Other trolls have joined and Jay has taken no action. Yes Jay should be very carefull and be slow to take action, but sometimes action must be taken. If you don't take action against the trolls, the trolls will start to control the forum.
Originally posted by: ricarleite
I have suggested having a few areas where only selected posters would be able to enter, but Jay has pointed out to me exactly what I said, it's not fair to block someone from viewing certain parts of this site just because we want to close it to ourselves...
I have suggested having a few areas where only selected posters would be able to enter, but Jay has pointed out to me exactly what I said, it's not fair to block someone from viewing certain parts of this site just because we want to close it to ourselves...
how bout we have certain areas, where everyone would be allowed to read, but only selected members would be able to post? Also I hate to say it, but I think this forum needs an age limit. I'd have it so only those who are 16 or older would be able to join. The would help cut down the childish posts that are increasing.
Originally posted by: ricarleite
What you COULD do is to ignore the trolling and focus on what you want...
I hate it when people tell me that. That is what my parents and teachers told me to do with my bullies at school. Newflash, it didn't work. I am already ignoring one troll, but since no one else is doing same, it is not working. Ignoring them will only work if we are all ignoring them(for a long, long time), and I mean all of us. I say I shouldn't have to ignore them. They shouldn't be posting their s__t in the first place. Another longtime forum member has PMed me that he will be leaving the forum soon because of the trolls. How many good members will Jay allow the trolls to chase away? How much control of the forum is he willing to hand over to the trolls? I sympathize with Jay wanting to keep the forum as free as possible, but how far will he let it go? How freedom can be given to the posters before it goes too far.
I say it has to stop. I say Jay has a choice to make. He can have a forum full of mature intelligent posters with few limits on what can be posteds, or a forum of trolls with no limit on what can be posted. He can't have it both ways.