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Inserting deleted scene of Yoda's exile into ANH??

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I was thinking about this the other day. What if the deleted Yoda arriving on Dagobah scene from RotS was inserted into ANH right when Aldeeran blows up? Yoda looks like he is sad when the door opens, maybe it could be because a planet just blew up? Then it goes right into the scene where Obi senses it. That way Yoda would be in all 6 movies. I also think it would be cool if Bail Organa and Palpatine were added.

It really wouldn't work I guess since Yoda looks a bit different than when we see him next in Empire. Which is ok if there's a 20 year span there, but not in the couple years between ANH and Empire. Also, could it be assumed that Yoda spent about 20 years flying around looking for a planet to live on, maybe trying out others for a bit before settling on Dagobah? If he could be edited to look more like the ESB Yoda, just in this one scene, maybe this could work? What do you think?

Oh and please, this post is for people who actually LIKE the prequels like me. If you ask me, I'm up for every change. I honest to God love seeing Hayden at the end of Jedi.
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I think this would be cool as well. But I don't think the ROTS deleted scene should be used for this., I think a completely new shot should be made for Yoda in ANH.
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I don't think he belongs in A New Hope at all. You've got a fine space adventure with smugglers and wide-eyed farmboys and an evil Empire, then out of nowhere you're in the middle of a swamp with a green elf for ten seconds, and you never see him again. Even people who did see the prequels, and did like them, would be wondering what in the world was the purpose of that shot. Is Yoda going to go to the Death Star and duel Darth Vader? Is he going to lead a Rebel army against the Empire to avenge Alderaan? ("To FOB Yavin take me!") Is he going to reunite with the enigmatic Chewbacca and ride around on his shoulders again? Will he show up during the Battle of Yavin and pull off a stunning rescue with a cloned wing of starfighter pilots?

Nope, he'll disappear for two or three hours (or years, in movie time). Then he'll pretend to be an idiot with a flashlight fetish. There's no reason for him to be in all the movies; Yoda, like most characters, has his entrances and his exits, and they are used to dramatic effect. They give the story an ebb and flow. This push among revisionists (principally Lucas, but also several commentators even on this site) to have all the characters static, unchanging, and always present would take away that ebb and flow, and make the series flat and less interesting.
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I love you, Scruffy! And I mean that in a truly non-creepy way, but you just collected my thoughts in a concise and very humorous package. Everyone does have their entrances and exits. What if, in Rocky Horror Picture Show, you see scenes of Franknfurter walking around the castle before he appears to sing Sweet Transvestite? Then there'd be no shock when he pulls off his cloak and reveal... well, you know. Crazy. Just crazy. Next people are going to say that they want the Emperor to be in the original movie. Oh, wait. I've heard that several times, both from Jedikev (who seems very much different than the current kev... I find it very strange and maybe even suspicious, but I digress) and AWK. Let's not hear it again, please.

"Idiot with a flashlight fetish." Hah! Pure genius!

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Any non-creepy cachet you had going you totally lost when you compared Yoda to Dr. Frankenfurter.

But the cast of Star Wars doing the Time Warp would be awesome.
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I'm sorry, but it's a bad idea. This way, Yoda is no longer a surprise Jedi Master in ESB (although watching the prequels first would spoil this anyway), he's only in exile for two years, and there's no explanation for wherever the hell he was for the 20 years between III and IV. And anyone watching that scene in ANH for the first time would be thinking something along the lines of WHAT THE FUCK?! for the rest of the film.
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
I'm sorry, but it's a bad idea. This way, Yoda is no longer a surprise Jedi Master in ESB (although watching the prequels first would spoil this anyway).


Um... that's the idea. They would already know Yoda anyway, so there's no harm in having Yoda in ANH.
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Originally posted by: Scruffy
Any non-creepy cachet you had going you totally lost when you compared Yoda to Dr. Frankenfurter.

But the cast of Star Wars doing the Time Warp would be awesome.


Heh, sorry. And yeah, that would be awesome.

And, Adam, sigh. I don't even know what to say. Theredbaron makes perfect sense too. Listen to him. And even if we go with the whole I-VI chronology and "knew" Yoda, there's no reason for Yoda to be in that movie, so there is harm in including him. It's like sticking Jango Fett into The Phantom Menace or Tarkin into Attack of the Clones. They just don't fit with the story. Their stories aren't being told this time around. Be graceful about it.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
[...there's no reason for Yoda to be in that movie, so there is harm in including him. It's like sticking Jango Fett into The Phantom Menace ...


Unless my eyes deceive me, he already is, at least peripherally. In one of the Tatooine scenes there's a shot of a ship under construction that looks an awful lot like Slave I. Timeline-wise, it makes sense. He's got a Fat Wad o' Cash after selling his DNA to some fella named Tyrannus, and decides it's the right time to spring for that fancy new custom ship that a bad-ass bounty hunter like himself deserves.
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Originally posted by: Darth Enzo
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
[...there's no reason for Yoda to be in that movie, so there is harm in including him. It's like sticking Jango Fett into The Phantom Menace ...


Unless my eyes deceive me, he already is, at least peripherally. In one of the Tatooine scenes there's a shot of a ship under construction that looks an awful lot like Slave I. Timeline-wise, it makes sense. He's got a Fat Wad o' Cash after selling his DNA to some fella named Tyrannus, and decides it's the right time to spring for that fancy new custom ship that a bad-ass bounty hunter like himself deserves.


Yeah, that was a horrible idea of trying to introduce the Slave I via that construction shot.
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Hmm, I never noticed that before. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Give me time. But at least he wasn't driving a pod racer or something else more overt. I stand corrected, at any rate.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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You only stand corrected in that the prequels are more screwed up than you previously thought.

You said that Jango Fett wasn't in TPM because it wouldn't make sense - and your point still stands - it doesn't make sense! Yet another attempt to unify the two prequels using anything but good old-fashioned continuity.
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: theredbaron
I'm sorry, but it's a bad idea. This way, Yoda is no longer a surprise Jedi Master in ESB (although watching the prequels first would spoil this anyway).

Um... that's the idea. They would already know Yoda anyway, so there's no harm in having Yoda in ANH.


Well, I'm not sure about that. If I have to give an advice to Star Wars newbies is to watch the OT first, and then the PT (if they want to see the whole saga, of course!). I really think it works real best that way. The PT and the OT show us very different eras of the SW universe, there's no harm to watch it unchronologicaly, and of course, the many surprises of the OT would be not ruined...


Originally posted by: Darth Enzo
Unless my eyes deceive me, he already is, at least peripherally. In one of the Tatooine scenes there's a shot of a ship under construction that looks an awful lot like Slave I. Timeline-wise, it makes sense. He's got a Fat Wad o' Cash after selling his DNA to some fella named Tyrannus, and decides it's the right time to spring for that fancy new custom ship that a bad-ass bounty hunter like himself deserves.


There's an interesting detail about the Slave I in the "Bounty Hunter" game, which takes place during TPM.
At the begining of the game we (=Jango) have a different ship, which belongs to the old "mentor" of Jango. And during a mission, we're blocked, and forced to find another ship, in a really small and secret facility. At the end of that level, Jango steals one of the few experimental ships of the facility (the Slave I, of course), and before he leaves, he just destroys the facility...
Well, it's just the little story... for those who are interested...
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
You only stand corrected in that the prequels are more screwed up than you previously thought.


Notice that he deleted that part from TPM though...

And he deleted a young Greedo...

And he deleted Han Solo's introduction from ROTS...
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Yes, because he's not completely retarded. But that doesn't make up for all the other crappy "continuity" things he did, which, as Anchorhead would so eloquently put it, shrank the universe.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I doesn't belong in ANH for this reason:

It wasnt't there in 1977. We've already seen WAY too many changes to these movies (and NONE for the better), and NO MORE NEED TO BE ADDED EVER FOR ANY REASON.

Sorry, I didn't mean to shout. I just hate the idea of people enouraging changes to these filmes.
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Hey, I'm with you all the way. These movies are on the flume ride to disaster already. No need to make it go any faster.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Yes, because he's not completely retarded. But that doesn't make up for all the other crappy "continuity" things he did, which, as Anchorhead would so eloquently put it, shrank the universe.


This was one thing I have always thought was wrong with Prequel story by Lucas, that everyone seemed to be interconnected eg Yoda knowing Chewie Vader & 3PO etc that it did make the universe seem rather small, when in the originals it seemed alot more vast and the story now is less believable for me
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: theredbaron
You only stand corrected in that the prequels are more screwed up than you previously thought.


Notice that he deleted that part from TPM though...

And he deleted a young Greedo...

And he deleted Han Solo's introduction from ROTS...


You're absolutely right, and he kept Yoda's exile out. All good ideas. All those scenes were unnecessary in those films, and unnecessary in any other film. They're deleted for a reason (though I did like the Greedo scene)
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Around the time ROTS was released, I might have disagreed with you about showing Yoda's exile in the film. But now I agree. I think that having Yoda in ROTS, although a really cool idea, isn't good overall for the film.
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Having all these past character relations was a horrible idea on Lucas's part. Before, they were just a ragtag group who, due to circumstances, banded together and became a crew, if you will. Now you find out that they all have this past together. Everyone's always known everyone else, and it seems like the Star Wars universe is inhabited by only about 20 people who keep finding themselves in the center of everything important.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Yeah, to think that all of the main characters in the OT could have sat down and had a one-hour chat that could have solved them a lot of problems (and pretty much destroy the story too, mind you).

- Chewy knows Yoda
- R2-D2 knows Obi-wan, Anakin, and Padme. He probably knew about Luke and Leia's birth and separation too (was he present during the delivery? He was at least on-board the Tantive IV when they were discussing it).

Really, R2 is the most guilty party in this universe-shrinking business, and probably the basis for all continuity errors in the PT.
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Yeah, it makes me lost a lot of respect for him to think that he just kept "quiet" about it all this time. I thought that the whole memory erasing thing was a horrible copout with very little reasoning behind it, but at the very least they could have wiped their both their minds!

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.