Originally posted by: greencapt
And yes even though DarkFox's post were well written (and compared to many I've seen they *were* well written if not well intoned) they still had an inflammatory nature to them them that pre-judged this site and everyone on it. And not only were his views seemingly contradictory but they also quickly escalated into almost outright threats towards Jay and the forums here in general. There's a BIG difference between expressing your opinion and making pretentious balnket statements. And like many people have pointed out there are several different areas of this forum and no one either has to A) Visit the forums AT ALL or B) frequent any one area of the fourm at all. And by my reckoning the only areas of this forum that discusses either preservation projects OR fan edits are the areas that are CLEARLY MARKED. As has been stated if you don't like the 'General Star Wars' section either don't visit it or try and contribute to it in a way that encourages better discussion. I personally do both- if a thread/area gets too idiotic I look elsewhere. But the *strength* of the overall community keeps me coming back.
Perhaps on the new site there will need to be further forum areas such as Pro-PT areas. But keep in mind in the meantime that this site was founded by and initially populated by people who FOR the release of the OOT and as such *many* (not all as I don't make blanket statements) of those people were *against* changes (makes sense) and *many* of the people who were against changes were more than likely dedicated fans of the OOT. From that one can make the logical deduction that the *majority* of *those* people would approach the PT with a much higher level of criticism than the general public or more casual SW fans- hence more bitching about it. Now bitching, when done with thought behind it and when trying to constructively add certain points, is perfectly fine and sometimes downright fun. When bitching turns to 'Lucas is a$$' (as it was for quite some time) it just is juvenile and annoying- and best avoided. But if one's only reason for avoiding the 'General Star Wars' area is PT bashing then one may be at the wrong SW forum. I look at it like this- we all have our opinions. But its just as annoying to have someone blindly *defend* something as much as it is to have them stupidly *argue* something. What pisses me off is when ANY part of the forums start to be idiotic PERSONAL attacks on each other. I *personally* think the PT are steaming cinematic turds but I would NEVER tell another member that because they like them that means THEY are steaming human turds. Trust me- I like quite a few cinematic turds. But I just do. And I don't get offended when other people don't. In fact, outside of the little geek community we have here, the vast majority of the world seems to enjoy the turds the that Hollywood monkeys fling at us every week.
That said, there's just as many poo-flinging monkeys in the 'Off Topic' section as there is in the 'General Star Wars' section. Oh it may be different monkeys and different poo but the effect is the same. Remember that like any online venture what we do here is make-believe. Seriously. I know it may not feel like but it truly is. Very few of us will ever have contact with each other in real life. Most of us have no idea what each other does in real life, what we look like, etc. There is no 'ownership' on the net, or at least only so much as any one idividual puts forwards. So everything one reads, see, hears, smells or tastes online has to be taken with a grain of salt as they say. Just try to have a good time. And like I said in a previous post here we all have freedom of choice to be here or to be anywhere. The only time the poo-flinging monkeys win is when we LET THEM WIN. They crave easy targets to aim their poo at and when we run away screaming from ANY poo-flinger all we do is get poo on our backsides. And I for one can't stand poo on my backside.
As an O-OT supporter and non-fan of the prequels, I think I am definitely in the right place. I stopped frequenting the General Star Wars section because the debates were getting old and repetitive, plus AWK was getting on my nerves. I was beginning to actually dislike Star Wars, which made me very sad.
I think I just created a new word - Non-fan