right now i am just using the default () settings(on the filters), just to see if it would even make a difference,my whole problem now is CCE,i got some settings from Moth3r,but now that i am messing with the video,my encodes are jerky again,but if i just do a straight encode(just like the dark/sega set)with the template it encodes right,so something changed,damn i need a CCE book LOL,and just getting some of these filters to even work is a friggin job,i still havent got SeeSaw to work yet,and i really want to see what this looks like, Didée at Doom9 is a genious. DJ