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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones

Do you want to see that happen?


In a twisted way, I do. Partially because I think they shortchanged the storyline by dropping Gwen Stacy from Spider-Man 1 (James Cameron's draft had her original storyline intact) and partially because I think Kirsten phoned in her performance in Spider-Man 2. I thought she was pretty dang good in the first movie, but two years of partying or something had clearly taken their toll by the second film. She didn't look as good, she didn't act as good, and in the end, I felt myself wondering why Peter bothered with her.

And I'm not supposed to be feeling that way towards her character.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones

Do you want to see that happen?


In a twisted way, I do. Partially because I think they shortchanged the storyline by dropping Gwen Stacy from Spider-Man 1 (James Cameron's draft had her original storyline intact) and partially because I think Kirsten phoned in her performance in Spider-Man 2. I thought she was pretty dang good in the first movie, but two years of partying or something had clearly taken their toll by the second film. She didn't look as good, she didn't act as good, and in the end, I felt myself wondering why Peter bothered with her.

And I'm not supposed to be feeling that way towards her character.


Well you can only fit so much in - and Spider-Man's love life has been fairly muddled with interests ranging from Betty Brandt (Brant?) to MJ to Gwen to the Black Cat/Felicia Hardy. Of course, they probably feel obligated to have Spider-Man with Mary-Jane in the movies because she's the one he ultimately married, and they probably don't want it to seem like these movies come with disposable, throw-away love interests like with the Batman films made circa 1989-1997 and even the previous Batman Begins.

That and killing off the girlfriend with the whole throw her off a bridge thing might be a tough sell in a summer blockbuster film meant to appeal to the widest audience possible. You can imagine how hard a sell the girlfriend-in-the-refrigerator-syndrome (AKA: The Gwen Stacy Syndrome) in the movies.

Although I'm not a big fan of Kirsten Dunst's MJ either. I'd have rather had Laura Prepon in the part, except she's taller than Tobey Maguire.

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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones

Although I'm not a big fan of Kirsten Dunst's MJ either. I'd have rather had Laura Prepon in the part, except she's taller than Tobey Maguire.


Her or Alicia Witt. Either one. Even Lauren Ambrose. Natural redheads know how to portray that redheaded temperment. Kirsten's blonde shows through in her personality.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones

Although I'm not a big fan of Kirsten Dunst's MJ either. I'd have rather had Laura Prepon in the part, except she's taller than Tobey Maguire.


Her or Alicia Witt. Either one. Even Lauren Ambrose. Natural redheads know how to portray that redheaded temperment. Kirsten's blonde shows through in her personality.


They asked Alicia Witt but she declined; maybe they should have driven up to her home with a garbage truck full of money, jewels, gold, or resorted to blackmailing her.
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Interesting, considering her booming career now.
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Just saw this article while glancing at headlines on cnn.com

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/19/film.spiderman.reut/index.html

thought it might interest some here

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Isn't bryce sorta a redhead?
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i hope they kill off mary jane. i agree dunst didnt look to great in spiderman 2
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I liked the first movie, but the second movie sucked. Sure it had it's moments, but I wasn't all that impressed. I hope that third one is better. I know nothing about the Spider-Man universe, but I'm really anxious to see what kind of a bad guy Topher Grace will make in this film.
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
I liked the first movie, but the second movie sucked. Sure it had it's moments, but I wasn't all that impressed. I hope that third one is better. I know nothing about the Spider-Man universe, but I'm really anxious to see what kind of a bad guy Topher Grace will make in this film.


Topher Grace will make a very poor bad guy, especially if it's true he's playing Venom. I don't care how much he works out, he doesn't have the intensity to pull off the vicious character that is Venom. Just watch him as the smug, smarmy, effeminate drug addict prep school snob in Traffic, that's about as intense as he can get. If Grace is Venom, then he's got a guaranteed Razzie coming his way.

My brain boggles at the wonder of Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy - they cast a blonde as a red head and a red head as a blonde... what is wrong with the world?

#2 was okay but I got annoyed at the triple unmaskings of Spider-Man, even if they did have different meanings for the characters witnessing it.
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Now if they could've reunited Grace and Laura Prepon for Spidey 3, that would've been fun. Ditch Kirsten Dunst as MJ and let the games begin.

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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
I liked the first movie, but the second movie sucked. Sure it had it's moments, but I wasn't all that impressed. I hope that third one is better. I know nothing about the Spider-Man universe, but I'm really anxious to see what kind of a bad guy Topher Grace will make in this film.

Wow, we have pretty opposite opinions. I thought the 1st movie was ok, nothing special. I actually liked Daredevil better then it (so that says a lot right there). In terms of the 2nd, I thought it was great. It ranks right up there with Superman (1978) and Batman Begins as superb (A grade) movies for me. I thought it was really great. I'm also very interested to see where they go with the 3rd and think Grace can bring. I think he'll be great.
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I enjoyed the 2nd film as well. The human drama was really there, and it was probably the best superhero film I'd seen since the original Superman, at the time. I think it still holds up well against Batman Begins, but Raimi has his work cut out for him to top Chris Nolan. The casting of Topher Grace will not only make or break this franchise, but make or break Grace's career.

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http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/gwenstacy.jpg

At least she has the eyes for it....just bleach her hair, presto!

Not that I have a fucking clue who Gwen Stacy is, or what part she plays in Spiderman folk lore, but apparently she's supposed to have these amazing green/blue eyes!!!

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Originally posted by: HotRod
http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/gwenstacy.jpg

At least she has the eyes for it....just bleach her hair, presto!

Not that I have a fucking clue who Gwen Stacy is, or what part she plays in Spiderman folk lore, but apparently she's supposed to have these amazing green/blue eyes!!!


Too bad they didn't cast her as Mary-Jane Watson instead.
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I'm so scratching my head over this. Yes, she'd make a great Mary Jane just as Kirsten would have made a great Gwen. But didn't they blow the Gwen storyline already in Spidey 1, combining Gwen and MJ into one character? Gwen was the girl next door, and Gwen was the one where Spidey had to choose between the busload of kids or saving Gwen. And unlike the movie, they had some real drama where he chose to save the kids and Gwen died as a result. None of the over-the-top "I can save them both" story that we got.

I have no idea where Raimi is going with this. With Spidey 1, I didn't hold my breath that it would be good, saying "They better not screw it up." I was pleasantly surprised as a result. Then I did the same with Spidey 2, and with MJ looking like ragged-out-hell and "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head" not withstanding, I liked 2 even more than 1.

Right now, Spidey 3 has me worried that it's entering Batman & Robin territory. This film has a much better cast IMO, but too many characters = an unfocused p.o.s. I hope I'm duly surprised once again. But I'm not holding my breath. Lowered expectations = greater enjoyment of what you get.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I'm so scratching my head over this. Yes, she'd make a great Mary Jane just as Kirsten would have made a great Gwen. But didn't they blow the Gwen storyline already in Spidey 1, combining Gwen and MJ into one character? Gwen was the girl next door, and Gwen was the one where Spidey had to choose between the busload of kids or saving Gwen. And unlike the movie, they had some real drama where he chose to save the kids and Gwen died as a result. None of the over-the-top "I can save them both" story that we got.

I have no idea where Raimi is going with this. With Spidey 1, I didn't hold my breath that it would be good, saying "They better not screw it up." I was pleasantly surprised as a result. Then I did the same with Spidey 2, and with MJ looking like ragged-out-hell and "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head" not withstanding, I liked 2 even more than 1.

Right now, Spidey 3 has me worried that it's entering Batman & Robin territory. This film has a much better cast IMO, but too many characters = an unfocused p.o.s. I hope I'm duly surprised once again. But I'm not holding my breath. Lowered expectations = greater enjoyment of what you get.


You're not the only one who's worried, ADigitalMan.

I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

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Hate to double post, but word is that Bryce Dallas Howard has just signed on to play the Gwen Stacy character for Spider-Man 3. Makes perfect Hollywood sense - cast blonde haired Kirsten Dunst to play the red haired Mary Jane Watson, and cast the red haired Bryce D. Howard to play the blonde Gwen Stacy. And Gwen died for crying out loud.

Throwing in Sand Man, Topher Grace as Venom, bringing in Gwen Stacy, it all just adds up to what the Hell is going on with this project?
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

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I'm tempted to say, "Have faith. The last time Raimi did the third film in a trilogy, the result was Army of Darkness."

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
I'm tempted to say, "Have faith. The last time Raimi did the third film in a trilogy, the result was Army of Darkness."


Alas, that's just not good enough for me, and I LOVE Army of Darkness.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
I'm tempted to say, "Have faith. The last time Raimi did the third film in a trilogy, the result was Army of Darkness."


PRECISELY.


Even the best in the biz can screw up royally.
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True, but Raimi's no Joel Schumacher.

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