Best movies of 05 — Page 7

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab


Yes. It's not about homophobia, though. Some people find it morally offensive, others see it as essentially gay propaganda. Not everyone who dissaproves of homsexuality FEARS them you know.

Originally posted by: sybeman
Who's to say Gundark didn't care to see Titanic or Romeo and Juliet either? Maybe "gay cowboys" isn't the issue for him. Leave the guy alone. He's allowed to voice his opinion just as anyone else. I don't care to see it either, and it's not because of homophopia, but because the film was in developmental hell since the script was written in 1997 (!) because nobody wanted to play a "gay cowboy".

Of course he can voice his opinion, obviously. But, if someone came in here and said "I'm not going to see {insert movie}, because it has a black person in it and I have no interest in watching black people!" don't you think the general populace of this board would think that's a terrible opinion and try to counter argue? That's what I'm doing here. Also, if he's an "all thing film junkie," wouldn't you be willing to bet he's watched, liked, and maybe even BAUGHT a dramatic love story before? I know this is nothing but an assumption, but one with a pretty high margin of correctness.

Looking through Gundark's DVD collection, I found some movies of interest.

1. Austin Powers in Goldmember. This movie is CHALK FULL of sexual innuendo, references, and jokes. He said he didn't like the idea of a "gay cowboy movie" because the attitude seems to be "let's invite everybody into the bedroom to watch!" So it seems like he doesn't want to see it because he has a moral objection to movies putting sex into the public eye. But 75% of Austin Powers is sex jokes.

2. Possession. Genres: Romance.

3. High Fidelity. Genres: Romantic Comedy.

4. Edward Scissorhands. Genres: Dramatic Romance/Fantasy.

5. Clueless. I haven't seen this movie in years, but from what I remember, isn't there a girl going around the whole time bragging about how she's had sex all over the place, and she becomes the popular girl? So... a movie potraying sex as a means of gaining POPULARITY is worth buying, but a movie about a frustrating, confusing, dramatic, romantic relationship between two guys is NO SIR NOT GONNA SEE IT!!!

6. The Virgin Suicides. Now to be fair, I know nothing about this movie, except what I read about it on Gundark's info page. But after reading the story summary, looking at the rating, and taking into account the name... I'm willing to bet there is at least some sex-related moments in the movie.

Anyway, that's actually all I could find... I was surprised, I thought there'd be a lot more, but most of it was just cartoons. Although, I did find Run Lola Run, and that surprised me. That's a really cool movie.

Moving on to the second half of your post, sybeman.


It shouldn't be a big deal, but it is. Some day, hopefully, we'll get to a point in our society where going to see a movie about two guys or two girls, will just be... going to see a movie. It won't be different. It won't be weird. It'll just be going to see a movie. But, that doesn't change the fact that, CURRENTLY, in our current society, going to see a movie about two homosexuals is a BIG DEAL. And the reason it's a big deal? Because of people like Gundark or Darth Chaltab who don't want to see it, JUST BECAUSE it's about homosexuals. They haven't listed ANY OTHER REASON not to see it, other than the fact that it's about homosexuals. If people keep having attitudes like that, then we're never gonna get to the point of where going to see a movie about two guys or two girls, will just be going to see a movie.

Yes. It's not about homophobia, though. Some people find it morally offensive, others see it as essentially gay propaganda. Not everyone who dissaproves of homsexuality FEARS them you know.

Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
#4. I am a religious person, but that cannot be equated with homophobia. Just because my religion preaches against homosexual practices does not mean I hate gays and lesbians. Christ taught to love the sinner and not the sin, and I along with many others think that so-called Christian fundamentalists could learn a lot from practicing what they preach. Telling gays and lesbians they're going to rot in hell for the way they live their lives is just nonsensical. If people can understand that I appreciate them for who they are rather than what they define themselves as, I have succeeded in making my point.

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the exception of "no wait, it's on the other end of the universe" line, didn't it end the same way as the book.

(I haven't seen the BBC series or Radio Dramas, so I can't compare those.)

Nope- The dramas and book end with a firefight on Magrathea between our heroes and some space cops, an explosion, some shenanagins and then:

Chapter 35

That night, as the Heart of Gold was busy putting a few light
years between itself and the Horsehead Nebula, Zaphod lounged
under the small palm tree on the bridge trying to bang his brain
into shape with massive Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters; Ford and
Trillian sat in a corner discussing life and matters arising from
it; and Arthur took to his bed to flip through Ford's copy of The
Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Since he was going to live in
the place, he reasoned, he'd better start finding out something
about it.

He came across this entry.

It said: 'The History of every major Galactic Civilization tends
to pass through three distinct and recognizable phases, those of
Survival, Inquiry and Sophistication, otherwise known as the How,
Why and Where phases.

"For instance, the first phase is characterized by the question
How can we eat? the second by the question Why do we eat? and the
third by the question Where shall we have lunch?"

He got no further before the ship's intercom buzzed into life.

"Hey Earthman? You hungry kid?" said Zaphod's voice.

"Er, well yes, a little peckish I suppose," said Arthur.

"OK baby, hold tight," said Zaphod. "We'll take in a quick bite
at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe."