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Post #169180

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Warp99
Parent topic
~French Coffret Trilogie LD to DVD transfer~ (Released)
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Date created
10-Jan-2006, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by: Moth3r
Originally posted by: Karyudo
Hmm... interesting points.

The way that both NTSC and PAL versions have the same video flaw could be because they come from the same HD master tape. I'm not saying I'm sure they did, but they could have. There is a good chance that the master is HD. Even if that was dubbed down to sub-masters, those sub-masters could show the same flaw if it was added early on in the chain.

On the other hand, knowing that Faces has this same flaw, and that it's a frame before a cut, I'd have to agree that there is a stronger possibility that it's on the film itself.
I'd vote it's a video flaw. The locations of these dropouts do not generally coincide with cut/splice points, e.g.:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7682/line2cy.jpg

And why do they not appear on the VHS? My '95 VHS set is from the same print (i.e. famous burn marks in first Tantive shot) but does not have these line dropouts present.

Yes the line you are showing must be a dropout, it's a bit strange though since most player are equipt with a dropout correction circuit that should replay the last correctly scanned line if the signal from the laser is lost. I've never seen it happen though but then I've never seen many (any) line dropouts on my discs either, but anyway it should be possible to see the duplicated lines in the capture if the player tried to correct a dropout, could be that this dropout maybe is not severe or long enough to trigger the correction circuit. Descratch should be able to safely remove most of them if they like this one is almost totally white or totally black.

The lines shown by Arnie.d in frames 20374 and 22939 could not be a video dropout, as they are in both the NTSC and PAL releases even the SE and I would guess even in your '95 VHS