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So, what would happen if he did release the OOT on DVD?

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Let's say that one day he suddenly announces "Fine, I'll release them on DVD."

But then, let's say not long after that, he releases his archival editions on Blu-ray. What would happen then? Would there be an outcry of "We want the OOT on Blu-ray?" Where would it stop?

Just wondering.
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This is a good thread Adam, because for me personally I am not that excited for HD-DVD transition from DVD, like I was for DVD transition from VHS.

Now HD-DVD will of course be better quality, but not by that much that I am going to run out and re-buy every DVD I have in my collection. But when I got a DVD players, there was such a huge quality difference, it was like watching a movie in a whole different way: Widescreen, Dolby Digital 5.1, Anamorphic, Chapter Search, Extras.
Now I never had a laserdisc player, but I know DVD is alot better than that too.

To me, I am satisfied with DVD quality movies, just like I have been with CD music for 15 years. If they came out with something better quality than CD's, I wouldn't go buying all my Rolling Stones and The Who CD's over again. That is the same for DVD, if Lucas releases O-OT as Anamorphic Widescreen, 5.1, I will be content forever.
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Actually there already have been several launches of Music DVD and 'better than CD quality' audio.... much to the snoozes of the consumer public. Like you said it takes a much bigger leap in quality (or more importantly PERCEIVED quality) for a new technology to take root with most consumers. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD will look kick-ass on those of us with HD tvs, but on your still more common 27" tube set most consumers won't see much difference. What really helps new technology is a 'gimic' of sorts. I personally never would have thought PSP video would almost instantly have shelf space in Wal-Mart of whatever. But people like their portability. Go figure!
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I agree with CO. DVD is definitely good enough for me. Just having it on video tape would be enough if video wasn't such a flimsy format that wears out too easily. DVD quality is close enough to film quality, and it lasts, so that's all I care about. I'm not really interested enough in the little frills of HD to spend that much money on it.

And, greencapt, I too am very surprised that PSP has gotten so big.

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i would buy it immediately. and no, i wouldnt worry about an upgrade when the blu-ray comes around (if it does). but if that were availible, i might buy it as well. the main problems with VHS are its lack of quality and lasting ability. and the problem with laser disc is you have to flip them, and they're huge. it would seem that DVD and CD formats will still be around for awhile even when newer formats come out.
but yeah, there will always be an outcry as long as Lucas keeps being a selfish idiot, in whatever way he decides to do that.
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I would buy them without hesitation! And when/if they were released in 1080i/p I would buy them to. I've got a 42" and could probably benefit from the higher resolution. But as others have pointed out, DVD-quality is enough to satisfy the vast majority. Don't think that Blue-Ray/HD-DVD will be affordable in i while anyway. About the audio-issue, the Super Audio CD and DVD Audio formats haven't realy got the consumers screaming for more as far as I can tell and they have been around for a while.

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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Let's say that one day he suddenly announces "Fine, I'll release them on DVD."

But then, let's say not long after that, he releases his archival editions on Blu-ray. What would happen then? Would there be an outcry of "We want the OOT on Blu-ray?" Where would it stop?

Just wondering.
well if he released them on dvd why not bluray? if he did only release on dvd though i would be happy with it

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I'd like to think there'd be much rejoicing - "the long wait is over!" type stuff.
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My question is, what would the mnedia make of it, though? I mean, so far, everytime they discss the OT, they poke fun at those who want the original versions of them on DVD.
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I would cry out that upgrades should be available at a fraction of the cost. Just as within the software industry, I expect digital movies, which, let's face it, they are software, should be "upgradeable." I suspect Hollywood is going to get a kick right in the profits when HD comes out, because most average watchers are going to say "I thought you said DVD was the holy grail of movie watching ... now you want me to buy this all over again?"

The software industry realized it ages ago, and made upgrade licenses available on the cheap, out of respect for the customers who forked over their hard-earned cash. It ensured that the new work got paid for, but the customer didn't feel screwed at the same time. Hollywood isn't so altruistic, and I think it's really going to bite them hard. They're going to need to do MUCH MUCH MUCH more than just higher video resolution to make HD & Blu Ray worth it to the customers. The content is going to have to be light years better than what's provided on DVD, and with some titles (Lord of the Rings for example) that'll be an insanely tall order to fill.

I go back to the issue of seamless branching. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter ... these will need to have original/special edition content all on the same disc with tons of audio options. And the extras will need to be massive archival releases never before imagined. Everything that has been collected and passed around here would need to make it onto the Star Wars HD set to keep fans from being pissed about being asked to buy yet another retread with some new continuity-destroyer added in.

I don't suspect we'll ever see an official DVD release of the O-OT, but I actually am expecting it on HD format. And pursuant to what I said above, THAT would make me want to go out and plunk down my money again. Do it with seamless branching so the different versions are on one disc and I'll really be there singing its praises ... just so long as they don't have technical screw ups like they did on the 2004 DVD.
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Originally posted by: greencapt
Actually there already have been several launches of Music DVD and 'better than CD quality' audio.... much to the snoozes of the consumer public. Like you said it takes a much bigger leap in quality (or more importantly PERCEIVED quality) for a new technology to take root with most consumers. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD will look kick-ass on those of us with HD tvs, but on your still more common 27" tube set most consumers won't see much difference. What really helps new technology is a 'gimic' of sorts. I personally never would have thought PSP video would almost instantly have shelf space in Wal-Mart of whatever. But people like their portability. Go figure!


Good points-- the fickle buying public likes what it likes (Beta? Nah, VHS!). There had been other prior attempts before DVD at releasing a movie-disc format-- CD-I, and the thankfully-failed early DVD "Divx" experiment (disposable movies that you have to "rent" for limited access, with no features... genius). If you ask John Q. Public about Blu-Ray or HD-DVD right now, chances are, he will respond, "Blu-Whut?"

Also keep in mind that consumers still whine about "those black bars", and that even reissues of widescreen movies are released in effin' Full Screen. (and yet, there are faux-WS releases created out of things not shot in WS, i.e. Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker) Unless it's old movies shot in a non-WS format, everything should be released only in Widescreen. People would quickly get over it, and get used to the pesky "bars" once and for all. That would be a start. Meanwhile, there are bars on the *side* of the screen on WS TV's when the programming is not WS. Sigh... a vicious cycle.
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What the hell is up with these John Q. Public people who don't understand that widescreen IS the entire picture and that they are actually getting cheated out of about 2/3 of the picture when they buy fool screen?
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yeah they are getting to use to widescreen, so much so that movies not filmed that way are artificially put in widescreen
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And I know the only reason Lucas releases foolscreen versions of his films if for the $$$$. Otherwise, he never would, as it would be an insult to his "vision."
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I keep on trying to explain it to my mother, for example, but she never does get it. But I don't really care as long as when she buys me movies she gets them in Widescreen, which she has been very good about doing. Christmas was a success in that regard. I didn't even have to remind her to get Serenity in widescreen.

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I have question:

Will the players that play Blu-Ray or HD-DVD (I guess the war is still on) be able to play your standard disc/duel layer?

Like someone said, I don't want to have re-buy all my DVDs. I'm sure I'm not the only one!

And about the widescreen, I know what you mean. My grandmother and cousin are fullscreen all the way. I explain it, and they're like, "I hate the black lines blah blah blah it's stupid blah blah blah!" Even though most HDTV is widescreen, and with their fullscreen versions, they'll have the black bars on the sides of picture.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I keep on trying to explain it to my mother, for example, but she never does get it. But I don't really care as long as when she buys me movies she gets them in Widescreen, which she has been very good about doing. Christmas was a success in that regard. I didn't even have to remind her to get Serenity in widescreen.

Yeah, as long as they are happy, and you are happy, then I guess it's fine. But to think that anyone would want to watch the Star Wars films in foolscreen?

Originally posted by: Seiji
I have question:

Will the players that play Blu-Ray or HD-DVD (I guess the war is still on) be able to play your standard disc/duel layer?

Like someone said, I don't want to have re-buy all my DVDs. I'm sure I'm not the only one!

And about the widescreen, I know what you mean. My grandmother and cousin are fullscreen all the way. I explain it, and they're like, "I hate the black lines blah blah blah it's stupid blah blah blah!" Even though most HDTV is widescreen, and with their fullscreen versions, they'll have the black bars on the sides of picture.


Yeah, I'm assuming they will, so that John Q. Public will be more willing to buy them. But still, I don't think people will or should buy all new copies of ALL of their movies. Some would be fine on regular DVD. But some, like the Star Wars films, are a requirement on Blu-Ray.
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And "The Terminator" ... although, the special effects might look that much more cheesy! ... Speaking of films that could use a Special Edtion type treatment, I'd like to see this one with CGI upgrades. Mostly the scene where he's fixing his eyeball and the stop motion at the end. And I'd be cool with it, because we have the original on DVD, already.

But yeah, my favs I would want on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

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I agree with you on the SE of the original Terminator. I don't think people would get too upset with a SE of it, since the original has already been released on DVD. A lot of the effects look very dated (although this may be looked at as a good quality.) But, compared to Terminator 2 (one of my favorite films), it looks very cheasy as it is.

And, of course, we also need Blade Runner on Blu-Ray, as soon as someone "retires" Jerry Perenchio.
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It must be an American thing because here in England, much to my delight, it's pretty damn hard to find a full screen DVD so I never have to worry about it, but when my American Mother-In-Law sends me DVDs, it can get messy. Last year for my birthday she sent me the Last Samurai, which is a movie I really dig and would have bought myself, but she got me the full screen version and now I'm stuck with it (although I intend to replace it one day when the wife isn't looking). This year, she sent me the Aviator, but it was widescreen so all is well.

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Well, considering that all of us are here because we PINE for the original trilogy to be on DVD, that at the single anouncement of "The trilogy will be on DVD tomorrow" we'd be all over those DVD's like a pile of horny chipmonks during mating season.

Blue-what? Who cares? Unless the technology is so advanced that I don't even need a remote anymore and I can just chapter skip by using my using my mind, I ain't buying nothing.

Now, if GL only release the OT on Blue-Ray DVD, then I will buy that box set and wait for the DVD player's to go on sale some time down the road.
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personally im pissed they didnt just release hddvd in the beginning. i personally thought dvds were high def and was pissed when i found out they werent, whats the point in releasing them if theyre arent high def seeing as how high def stations look better
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He'd nearly double his money-yet again. After the initial burst, he'd see no sales of his edit trilogy, which would be somewhat hard for him to deal with, all of his 97 edit work so clearly seen as extraneous and problematic.

That being said, I'd buy them the first day, and give copies as gifts to all of my family and friends...
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Originally posted by: battlewars
personally im pissed they didnt just release hddvd in the beginning. i personally thought dvds were high def and was pissed when i found out they werent, whats the point in releasing them if theyre arent high def seeing as how high def stations look better


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