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Catofong, really, there is absolutely no way that anyone will be able to get the natives from the 1933 version to blend into anything involving the 2005 version.

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Catofong, I've seen the DVD. The issue is the source material--no matter how good of a transfer you do, the source material is crap. The movie is 72 years old, so it's grainy AS HELL. As I said before, we have no high-resolution material to work with, simply because it was shot in 1933. Secondly, there is absolutely no way to integrate the old natives into the new DVD, even if the source material for the 1933 film were in good shape. They would stick out like a sore thumb.

If you think I'm just crazy, why don't you try it? You'll figure out a whole lot quicker that way.
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No what I was saying was to overlay the footage from the colorized ld over the black white dvd footage

Nothing to do with the 2005 VERSION at all .
just the 1933 version.
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Ohhhhhh....gotcha.

But it wouldn't do any good--the black and white version is about the same as the colorized version. Plus, the colorized version is PAL.
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Catofong, give it up. It'd be much easier to get a couple of African Americans to dress up like natives, film them yourself, and iput them into the movie than to insert the natives from any version of the original King Kong into the 2005 film.
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Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes
Catofong, give it up. It'd be much easier to get a couple of African Americans to dress up like natives, film them yourself, and iput them into the movie than to insert the natives from any version of the original King Kong into the 2005 film.


Read Catofong's last post.
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Whoops. Missed that. But Catofong's first post was pretty unclear. This is a thread for the 2005 King Kong, and when he said he thought it'd be good to overlay the natives over the "new version" I assumed he meant the 2005 film.
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That was original intention, I believe. That's why I got all screwed up to...his idea changed mid-way through the thread.
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Just found this thread.

Yeah, I started making notes for a re-edit while I was still in the theater ;-)

Started cutting, but I'm gonna wait for a potential extended edition before I finish it up.
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Well after a short recess in editing, I finished my first re-cut of this self-proclaimed epic. Starting at 3 hours, I've so far trimmed it down to 2;16. I've yet to watch it completely through though so some may have to be reinserted due to pacing, and seeing it all at once may reveal even more I can take out.

Some highlights from the chopping block include: Heavily shortening the boat crash, cutting away from most of the slow-motion/low framerate camera work, the weird love story between Mr. Hayes and Jimmy, the brontosaurus chase, all but one T rex encounter, the over the top parts of the big pit scene, and Kong and Ann's date in NYC.
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I also worked on an edit shortly after the film was released. Just to keep things short, I cut the entire first part of the film (everything up to Denham's meeting with the executives), some lines here and there, some of the Bruce Baxter stuff, A LOT of the boat stuff, cut most of the Jimmy & Mr. Hayes stuff, trimmed the brontosaurus & bug sequences, and some other things here and there. It also ended up around 2:15.
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I feel like the only way to give the movie crutches is to make Kong scary.

When he's rampaging through NYC, we should be AFRAID

when he's holding Anne Darrow, we (and SHE) should be scared.

If there's no way to accomplish this, even if we cut the jimmy stuff (which is seemingly there to mitigate the racism of the natives) and the other fat, it will only draw more attention to the movie's mediocrity, rather than helping to raise it above it.
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I really don't care for making Kong scary. Despite the classification of Kong as a monster movie, I never really thought of him as one in the scary sense.

The 1933 Kong was simply a big horny ape. He wanted Ann and that was basically it. The 2005 film aimed to bring a greater depth to the relationship of Kong and Ann. Here, they're two lost souls that meet one another and as strange as it may be, they truly understand one another. Most will probably agree that their relationship is the strongest aspect of the film. It's the movie's heart. Without, it'd just be reduced to any other bombastic and brainless movie.
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I agree with Shifty--King Kong was never meant to terrify the audience. That's the whole point of the story--we're supposed to be horrified by the behavior of the PEOPLE. This is a moral tale disguised as a monster movie, kinda like how the original Dawn of the Dead was a commentary on the horrors of human nature, disguised as a zombie movie.
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It seems like everyone hated all the stuff that I loved.

IMHO...cut JACK BLACK out as much as you can. He ruined it for me.
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Originally posted by: tweaker
I agree with Shifty--King Kong was never meant to terrify the audience. That's the whole point of the story--we're supposed to be horrified by the behavior of the PEOPLE. This is a moral tale disguised as a monster movie, kinda like how the original Dawn of the Dead was a commentary on the horrors of human nature, disguised as a zombie movie.


I think this quote says it best...

"The name of this song is "King Kong". It's the story of a very large gorilla who lived in the jungle. And he was doing okay until some Americans came by and thought that they would take him home with them. They took him to the United States, and they made some money by using the Gorilla, then they killed him."

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I'm considering taking this project on, trying to make the film a bit more of a fast-paced action-adventure, like the original film or maybe a bit more like the recent The Mummy remake.
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Wait till November when the Extended version hits .....Im not kidding !!!! I work at Wal Mart and it has a listing for November 2006. There will be more footage to add for any sort of edit.
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Thanks for that news, i was wondering about that! I think i'll start my edit now, and then i can maybe work in some extended stuff when i get the new dvd.
I'm always looking to trade my edits, if you don't want to get them from a torrent. PM or e-mail!