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A miserable box art would be the least problem. I’m going to buy a box set twice anyway, one sealed, one to watch - and those discs would just be replaced from the official box to a custom made box.
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Star Wars (1977 Original Version) Theatrical Rerelease Discussion — Page 5
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Robyroo, congratulations on being the 100th post in this thread and good morning! I can’t wait for the Star Wars Holiday Special on Blu-ray (which is part two of the four part trilogy!)
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Robyroo, congratulations on being the 100th post in this thread and good morning! I can’t wait for the Star Wars Holiday Special on Blu-ray (which is part two of the four part trilogy!)
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Sony now distributes Disney physical media via SDS, yes. But I don’t think that implies Sony is encoding the video or even authoring the discs.
My recollection was that there was no implication, the report was that they’d be encoding/authoring/pressing/packaging the discs as part of the deal. I could be remembering that wrong tho!
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A miserable box art would be the least problem. I’m going to buy a box set twice anyway, one sealed, one to watch - and those discs would just be replaced from the official box to a custom made box.
I’d be more concerned about stuff like dnr, and pink lightsabers than that.
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A miserable box art would be the least problem. I’m going to buy a box set twice anyway, one sealed, one to watch - and those discs would just be replaced from the official box to a custom made box.
I’d be more concerned about stuff like dnr, and pink lightsabers than that.
Of all the things that arrived in 2004 I think I hated that pink saber the most, for what it represented. Suck a simple quality fuck up they chose to ignore.
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Feeling a little bad for the souls that have spent years scanning and retouching every frame in 4k based on George’s lie.
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Feeling a little bad for the souls that have spent years scanning and retouching every frame in 4k based on George’s lie.
It’s not really a waste, the 4KXX series are there to preserve the actual “theatrical print” media of how the movies would’ve looked like back to audiences in 1977, 1980 and 1983. The 50th Anniversary restoration would be basically how the conformed OCN in 1977 would’ve looked like, in the highest resolution and quality possible.
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Feeling a little bad for the souls that have spent years scanning and retouching every frame in 4k based on George’s lie.
It’s not really a waste, the 4KXX series are there to preserve the actual “theatrical print” media of how the movies would’ve looked like back to audiences in 1977, 1980 and 1983. The 50th Anniversary restoration would be basically how the conformed OCN in 1977 would’ve looked like, in the highest resolution and quality possible.
I mean, if the 4K77 team had access to a higher quality copy like an interpositive, they would’ve scanned that instead.
The goal was to just get a modern HD or 4K transfer, instead of the 2006 DVDs.
They scanned theatrical prints because that’s really the only thing anyone outside of Lucasfilm has access to.
I don’t know who would prefer 4K77 once this 6K scan of the negative is released, unless you like all the extra grain, scratches, dust, and lower resolution.
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I can’t prove it, but I swore I read when George Lucas sold his company to Disney, not releasing the original cuts was a condition.
Maybe that’s true, but there was an expiration on it. Dunno.
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I can’t prove it, but I swore I read when George Lucas sold his company to Disney, not releasing the original cuts was a condition.
Maybe that’s true, but there was an expiration on it. Dunno.
It’s a complete myth, there’s no evidence such a clause ever existed. Unfortunately however this myth has become commonly accepted online, and it gets stated as fact frequently.
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RM4747 said:
I don’t know who would prefer 4K77 once this 6K scan of the negative is released, unless you like all the extra grain, scratches, dust, and lower resolution.
There is undeniably a level of charm to release prints. The more grindhouse-y nature of them can be a nice novelty, and for that I’ll be keeping 4K77/80/83 around. But with that said, yeah, I’‘’ take a proper 4K+ negative scan any day of the week.
“Bring my shuttle.”
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I can’t prove it, but I swore I read when George Lucas sold his company to Disney, not releasing the original cuts was a condition.
Maybe that’s true, but there was an expiration on it. Dunno.
It stems from people at LFL being cagey about it for so long. Kennedy, Hidalgo, made weird comments when asked after the Disney sale so people naturally assumed they’d got a contractual reason behind the scenes. Unless this has recently changed or they were just saying this for personal rather than legal reasons to stay friends with George.
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old school lol
earth 1 nowadays kinda reminds me of the star wars multiverse
there are a lot of good topics in this forums
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I can’t prove it, but I swore I read when George Lucas sold his company to Disney, not releasing the original cuts was a condition.
Maybe that’s true, but there was an expiration on it. Dunno.
I’m not sure that that makes sense, because i have read in multiple places that George said (paraphrased) “the film no longer exists in its original form and that the negatives had been altered beyond restoration.”
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I can’t prove it, but I swore I read when George Lucas sold his company to Disney, not releasing the original cuts was a condition.
Maybe that’s true, but there was an expiration on it. Dunno.I’m not sure that that makes sense, because i have read in multiple places that George said (paraphrased) “the film no longer exists in its original form and that the negatives had been altered beyond restoration.”
That’s the “official” story but we have a long running thread about those kind of half-truths and bits of misinformation pinned above right here. Now the story has changed for the 50th Anniversary release, aka The Search for More Money.
Here’s the quote I mentioned before (KK “oh those are George’s” soundbite is easier to find) which also condradicts any notion they were “destroyed” or “erased” by 1997 changes.
Pablo Hidalgo: Good morning! What’s kept the original theatrical editions off of home video is the same thing that’s always been doing that. It’s not a studio thing.
Q: Well why leave us hanging here Captain Pablo? WHAT is the grand reason that’s keeping the Theatrical Versions off Home Video? Please enlighten.
Pablo Hidalgo: There is one notable person who doesn’t want them released.
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We don’t have any idea what Disney did with the negative or At least I don’t. I do know it was conformed to the 1997 edit. This news of new photochemical restoration. Did they revert the negative to its original state?
I guess I should not even ask the only people who would know is this mysterious Ali group.
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What I’ve always loved about this one tweet (aside from the fact it’s a tweet) is that it’s also a non-answer, really.
So, aside from the logic hole introduced by the “there’s a clause/stipulation/etc” (if a clause had to be introduced, that means it’s obviously a lie that the originals “couldn’t exist” otherwise you wouldn’t NEED THE “clause” yeah) when the “Lore Guy” at Lucasfilm is talking shit on Twitter, his saying “There’s a notable person who doesn’t want them released” doesn’t actually answer the question “What’s keeping the theatrical versions off home video” because that’s not ACTUALLY saying why they’re not out yet, it’s just telling you something you ALREADY THOUGHT YOU KNEW. Without actually even saying who the “notable person” is. Or why that unnamed person doesn’t want it released (yet).
So a sort of vague non-answer from a guy not THAT high up in the company on a social media outlet from 2017 has been carrying SO MUCH WEIGHT in the meantime. I believe that tweet came right after the announced purchase of Fox (which didn’t complete until 2019).
So much of fandom angst and misinformation is self-inflicted, it really is, LOL.
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You hit the nail on the head the Fox acquisition in 2019 meant Disney owned the original 1977 film.
As to whether Lucas had a legal clause I thought he would do so to spite the fans. But there was never any evidence.
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I don’t see any angst, we just have small amount limited information and a large amount if inaction by LFL until now. Disney have been very lax about the massive amount of bootlegs and fan edits. Why would they not shut down those efforts before now and turn a profit? Since they chose not to assumptions will be made and cryptic quotes aren’t helping.
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I don’t see any angst
It’s background radiation at this point, LOL. It’s everywhere, at all times. Hell, you can set a watch by the amount of people in any thread about these upcoming releases (not just here, but basically anywhere) who will grab the wheel on a conversation (no matter where it’s at when they reach over the backseat to grab it) and point the car full-speed at any number of 20+ year old gripes specifically about “George” (it’s always George, like we’re on a first-name basis with a deadbeat uncle who flicked lit cigarettes at us when he came over or something), which then touches off a small chain of people getting their grumpy ya-yas out in the exact same rote manner people have been doing it since this site first went up.
And so much of the (false) trivia and (angry) assumptions in the meantime just get calcified into “fact” for no other reason than it makes fandom and fans feel good to keep repeating it in absence of any other course of action. Which brings us back to my observation that so much of this is self-inflicted. Fandoms tend to just do this to themselves if given half a chance.
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If anyone’s getting angry they should take a break, seems like a self-correcting problem.
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It seems like it should be like that, absolutely, LOL.
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Does anyone else here know which interview I’m remembering where GL says “the original film/negative/interpositive” was cut up for 97ANH? And the the “original” no longer exists. I’m pretty sure he made it clear but he may have been referring to existing media of that time degrading.
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Does anyone else here know which interview I’m remembering where GL says “the original film/negative/interpositive” was cut up for 97ANH? And the the “original” no longer exists. I’m pretty sure he made it clear but he may have been referring to existing media of that time degrading.
He re-cut the negative, yes. But the trims were saved, not tossed in the trash.
So, he was being honest, on a technicality, that the original negative didn’t exist. But all of its components still existed, just in pieces.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.