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Post #1671155

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Dagenspear
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George Lucas's Sequel Trilogy
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15-Dec-2025, 3:50 PM

Broom Kid said:

Lucas’ conception of the Jedi being weird emotionally stunted monks (which did not exist until he really started writing Episode I, either) was one of the worst decisions he made in the 90s, honestly. Along with aging Anakin down to 8, and not making Padme the main character of the Prequel trilogy.

he made a ton of absolutely terrible calls in his mythology as he made it up, and because so much of his own self-mythologizing is built around the grandiosity of his own creativity, he basically couldn’t retcon his own bad storytelling instinct to arrive at any of the interesting endpoints his bad setup COULD be saved by.

That Trevorrow wound up looking at the ingredients Lucas laid out for his mythology and arrived at an answer that makes SOME kind of emotional/philosophical sense (vs the dogmatic adherence to what “Balance of the Force has to mean”) kinda speaks to how stunted and forced every aspect of Jedi dogma, both textually AND metatextually.

It’s like Lucas (and Lucasfilm) forgot all this shit is made up, and the only real use any of it has is for allegorical storytelling, and for figuring out a way to use those elements in the pursuit of saying SOMETHING interesting about our own world and lives.

I think they are neither emotionally stunted, nor are they weird, as all the main Jedi show emotions and are never treated as bad for showing emotions. What does it matter when it existed? I think Padme is the main character of TPM, but why should she be the main character of the PT, when the plot about the fall of the Jedi has about nothing to do with her?

What’s terrible about Anakin being a child? And aging down? Anakin was never established in any movie before TPM to have been any age, so how is he aged down? You gave no reasons I think for what’s terrible about any of this, just resorted to claims about Lucas’ ideas of himself it seems to me.

And you didn’t give any reasoning for what’s stunted or more emotionally sensible about any of this.

Did you not percieve the idea of people indulging in their own selfish wants and fears and how that can lead to self destruction and the harm of those you care about and fascism? How is the PT, I think, saying that not something interesting about our own world and lives?

JadedSkywalker said:

For me it would be the prequel doctrine on attachment I disagree with. Because Jedi had families and children in Star Wars lore before the prequels. Just like how the chosen one thing was made up and so was midichlorians.

To get the Jedi celibacy thing you have to go all the way back to discarded script drafts for the original film, the son of the suns prophecy for the chosen one thing. Midichlorians came from nowhere.

How is it problematic, based on EU material doing something else? All of Star Wars is made up, just like the eu stuff about them having families was made up.