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⭐ Star Wars' 50th anniversary in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations (if any)... — Page 16

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That guy with no name said:

PM me on the other forum for a discussion… (just you, not anyone else).

Lol…

As if this is some sort of top-secret classified information. 🙄

It’s already been leaked everywhere, there are no more secrets.

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I’m heartened by the fact that no one sees the Maclunky scans as Archival anymore.

I do wonder if those scans were trash are they going to also remaster George’s final special edition cut and do we even care.

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JadedSkywalker said:

I’m heartened by the fact that no one sees the Maclunky scans as Archival anymore.

I do wonder if those scans were trash are they going to also remaster George’s final special edition cut and do we even care.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they did both, just like the 2006 DVDs.

The current 4K releases are based on 4K scans that were done ~15 years ago, right before George sold the company to Disney.

Some people prefer the special editions, some people prefer the original theatrical versions.

Why not give people the choice? Just like with Blade Runner, and pretty much all other movies that have had a director’s cut.

More choices for the viewer isn’t a bad thing.

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RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Feel free to share. No one believes you have any information without proof.

Why would I need to share if there are no more secrets, duh!

You don’t have any. I didn’t think so.

Ok then. You weren’t invited to that conversation in the first place, so in your small-town world, I, in fact, don’t have anything… I’m glad you’re content!

-TGWNN

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That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Feel free to share. No one believes you have any information without proof.

Why would I need to share if there are no more secrets, duh!

You don’t have any. I didn’t think so.

Ok then. You weren’t invited to that conversation in the first place, so in your small-town world, I, in fact, don’t have anything… I’m glad you’re content!

Have you keeled over yet?

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Some Interested Observer said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Feel free to share. No one believes you have any information without proof.

Why would I need to share if there are no more secrets, duh!

You don’t have any. I didn’t think so.

I’m sure that Member X of all people has no extra info on the behind the scenes… 😃

I’m honestly not that interested in the behind the scenes work lol, all of the interesting technical details have already been leaked.

All we care about is whether the original versions will actually get a theatrical/home media release, but no one seems to know yet.

It’s possible they’ll just use these new scans to do an updated Special Edition, or that it’s just for internal preservation and will never be released publicly.

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RM4747 said:

I’m honestly not that interested in the behind the scenes work lol, all of the interesting technical details have already been leaked.

Ahh. Yes. I’m sure everything leaked. Must have all leaked. Sure of it.

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The clues and breadcrumbs were there all along. Cintel Cinelab Bill Hunt. All will be revealed in time.

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Broom Kid said:

That Patreon post just reeks of B.H’s brand of B.S. It’s pretty clear through the way he’s writing that he “found out about this” the same way everyone else did - via the initial leaks that first happened on the YouTube. Someone musta shot him those details on the low (of course they did, rule #1 of having a secret is telling someone you’re not supposed to).

Everything else in that post is… I don’t know that he’s just making stuff up whole-cloth, but he’s definitely embellishing a great deal on what happened and when it happened. I think he’s simply betting that nobody who is paying him money to talk about home video in 2025 is going to either know, or be in a position to know, that he’s fluffing himself, LOL.

But the big tell is that he seems to have no real idea what the timeline on this was, and keeps talking about it like it’s way more recent than it really was. The whole bit about him tying all this together in his mind (a regular Pepe Silvia here) upon hearing about the BFI screening is the giveaway. He seems to legit believe that screening and this restoration (which began YEARS AGO) are inexorably linked, and that the former is key to the latter.

He’s laying out a line of bull for people who value the idea of being an insider so much they’re willing to pay him a monthly fee to feel like they have a friend in the industry (he takes care to spell out how connected he is, don’t he). He doesn’t know any more than anyone that’s been keyed into this leak from the beginning. But there’s worth in convincing people he does, so he’s going to do that.

I’ll give him this, he’s done a really good job at parlaying being “the face” of DVD collecting in its heyday into an ongoing hustle all the way into the UHD era. He’s ridden the decline of physical media as well as any of his peers ever did. But if you gotta dedicate 3-4 paragraphs to reminding people that you know people, it’s doing the opposite of what you want it to do. These aren’t the days where bonus feature teasers got Hall-H panels by themselves, and it hasn’t been that for a decade.

Thank you, it’s always good to clear up doubts and expose the lies others spread to get attention. Because let’s think about it, Disney must have a very complete record of how the films looked. They have their own interpositives, some more degraded than others, which was the reason they went back to the OCN in 1994 to make the Special Edition. But some must be in good enough condition to retain the color, like a Technicolor copy straight from the OCN, such as George’s private copy. Or perhaps they don’t have to go that far; they could use the separation masters or the YCM masters and scan them as a reference file. Just because Disney allowed the BFI screening doesn’t mean they were interested in that copy. Lucasfilm will have more copies of the film in color in their vault, even if they’re generations removed from the negative, and they’ll only use the color from those copies as a reference to colorize the highest quality material, which is the OCN. But they don’t depend on collectors who own rare copies for million-dollar projects because they already have all the material that we here would sell our souls to own.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

RM4747 said:

I’m honestly not that interested in the behind the scenes work lol, all of the interesting technical details have already been leaked.

Ahh. Yes. I’m sure everything leaked. Must have all leaked. Sure of it.

I’m not interested. We just want to be able to buy the movies lol

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RM4747 said:

I’m honestly not that interested in the behind the scenes work lol,

You pay Bill Hunt a monthly fee to spoon soft-serve-bullshit into your eyes.

I don’t. I paid $5 for one month because I saw that he posted about Star Wars and was curious what he was hearing.

People are really hostile here for no reason. No moderators here?

All I did was copy and paste what he said. Don’t shoot the messenger if you hate the guy.

Maybe he’s wrong, maybe he’s not. I have no idea. We’ll all find out in 2027. All I did was share what he said.

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Because let’s think about it, Disney must have a very complete record of how the films looked.

Clearly not, because the color grading on all previous home media releases has been way off.

George’s private copy.

If it’s his personal copy, pretty unlikely Disney would have access to that.

Especially for a re-master of the theatrical version, which he hates and doesn’t want released lol

Even in his interview at Cannes last year, he still ranted against people who want the original versions. He was asked directly if they have plans to release them in HD or 4K, and his answer was “Well we put them on DVD but everyone said they looked terrible and didn’t want them!”

Although he’s a bad person to ask, since he sold the company, retired, and no longer has any control over the films. I seriously doubt if he’s even aware they’re being restored right now. It certainly didn’t sound like it in 2024.

Or perhaps they don’t have to go that far; they could use the separation masters or the YCM masters and scan them as a reference file.

The separation masters are generally made from the raw negative, so those wouldn’t be color graded. Only the interpositive and later is color graded.

But they don’t depend on collectors who own rare copies for million-dollar projects because they already have all the material that we here would sell our souls to own.

IB Technicolor prints are very rare, and unique because the colors don’t fade at all. And they weren’t really used in the US at all for Star Wars, they were pretty much only made for some European markets.

The regular Eastman negative film that Lucasfilm has is extremely faded and color shifted.

I didn’t see any mention in the leaked documents that Lucasfilm has an IB Technicolor print in their vault.

The BFI’s copy would be extremely useful to them for color accuracy, assuming they didn’t already have one.

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So what I’m reading is, you paid him to find out behind the scenes info.

He doesn’t know anything more than what you could have got here for free months ago. So what you paid for was embellishment and bad conjecture - and about four separate reminders that he’s got “contacts.” I’m not mad you posted it here. I’m not mad, period. I thought it was a good opportunity to point out what he was actually doing. Think of it as an object lesson in media literacy

Nobody is forcing you to keep vouching for and defending that position. You don’t have to keep doing so, and by doing so, force yourself into making contradictory statements with every quote. You’re just choosing to do it.

None of this is hostile. I can see why it’d be frustrating to someone who wants to keep doing something despite it not going the way they’d like, but that frustration is also a choice.

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Broom Kid said:

So what I’m reading is, you paid him to find out behind the scenes info.

He doesn’t know anything more than what you could have got here for free months ago. So what you paid for was embellishment and bad conjecture - and about four separate reminders that he’s got “contacts.” I’m not mad you posted it here. I’m not mad, period. I thought it was a good opportunity to point out what he was actually doing. Think of it as an object lesson in media literacy

Nobody is forcing you to keep vouching for and defending that position. You don’t have to keep doing so, and by doing so, force yourself into making contradictory statements with every quote. You’re just choosing to do it.

None of this is hostile. I can see why it’d be frustrating to someone who wants to keep doing something despite it not going the way they’d like, but that frustration is also a choice.

Yeah, that’s how Patreon works… you can’t see what was posted until AFTER you pay lmao

It only shows you the post headlines without paying.

I had no way to know if he had new information or not without paying. Either way, $5 isn’t a big deal to me.

I didn’t make a comment about what he said, I just shared it. Go yell at him yourself if you think he’s wrong, don’t tell me.

My point was only that he confirmed it with his sources at Lucasfilm that they are in fact remastering it, and do plan to release something in 2027. Whether it’s a new Special Edition, or the theatrical versions, or both, no one seems to know yet.

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RM4747 said:

Broom Kid said:

So what I’m reading is, you paid him to find out behind the scenes info.

He doesn’t know anything more than what you could have got here for free months ago. So what you paid for was embellishment and bad conjecture - and about four separate reminders that he’s got “contacts.” I’m not mad you posted it here. I’m not mad, period. I thought it was a good opportunity to point out what he was actually doing. Think of it as an object lesson in media literacy

Nobody is forcing you to keep vouching for and defending that position. You don’t have to keep doing so, and by doing so, force yourself into making contradictory statements with every quote. You’re just choosing to do it.

None of this is hostile. I can see why it’d be frustrating to someone who wants to keep doing something despite it not going the way they’d like, but that frustration is also a choice.

My point was only that he confirmed it with his sources at Lucasfilm that they are in fact remastering it, and do plan to release something in 2027. Whether it’s a new Special Edition, or the theatrical versions, or both, no one seems to know yet.

We do know, though, that’s the whole point. We haven’t released the physical proof that confirms this, as it’s incredibly sensitive. But instead of understanding, you’re just claiming that we’re making this up and don’t have anything that hasn’t already leaked, which is nowhere near the case. Here’s a question: Who do you think is supplying the images/docs that are on this forum?

-TGWNN

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That guy with no name said:

We do know, though, that’s the whole point.

Then feel free to tell the rest of us. What are they planning to do with it?

I didn’t see it anywhere, but I haven’t read all 15 pages of this thread.

The original FAQ says “We don’t know, it’s possible this is just for an internal restoration and it will never be released, or for an updated Special Edition.”

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RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

We do know, though, that’s the whole point.

I didn’t see it anywhere, but I haven’t read all 15 pages of this thread.

Of course. You don’t, I haven’t asked the person running this thread to post it! Because it’s sensitive information. Everything posted here was supplied by the other members of the conversation and me, through me.

I’m gonna end this conversation here, I don’t have the time to go in circles with you.

-TGWNN

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That guy with no name said:

Of course. You don’t, I haven’t asked the person running this thread to post it!

Why not?

And why not just answer the question?

I don’t need to see proof. No need to post anything sensitive.

It’s a really simple question that you can answer: What are they planning to do with it?

This drip drip drip and teasing and wink wink “Trust me, I know things!!” is pretty silly.

Censoring people’s initials in the leaked documents was pretty silly, as if we don’t know who K.K. is lol

Yeah… big mystery who that could be…

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RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Of course. You don’t, I haven’t asked the person running this thread to post it!

Why not?

And why not just answer the question?

I don’t need to see proof. No need to post anything sensitive.

It’s a really simple question that you can answer: What are they planning to do with it?

I never said I knew what they were gonna do with it, though I do have a good idea what. Just what it is.

That’s the part of your original post I quoted and replied to:

You said: “Whether it’s a new Special Edition, or the theatrical versions, or both, no one seems to know yet.”

It’s not the special edition, and it won’t be both either. That part (which is what I was replying to), I do know and have proof to back up, which I can’t share because, for the millionth time, it’s sensitive.

-TGWNN

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That guy with no name said:

It’s not the special edition, and it won’t be both either. That part (which is what I was replying to), I do know and have proof to back up, which I can’t share because, for the millionth time, it’s sensitive.

So that leaves options:

  1. Nothing, it’s only for internal preservation and won’t be released.

  2. Only the original theatrical versions will be released.

Interesting choice, since that would leave the Special Editions on the old 2011-2012 4K scans at worse quality.

You’d think they’d also use these new 6K scans as a base to update the Special Editions as well, and re-do the CGI at higher resolution, but maybe they’re just going to leave that alone entirely, since that was George’s project.

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RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

It’s not the special edition, and it won’t be both either. That part (which is what I was replying to), I do know and have proof to back up, which I can’t share because, for the millionth time, it’s sensitive.

So that leaves options:

  1. Nothing, it’s only for internal preservation and won’t be released.

  2. Only the original theatrical versions will be released.

Interesting choice, since that would leave the Special Editions on the old 2011-2012 4K scans at worse quality.

You got it!

You’d think they’d also use these new 6K scans as a base to update the Special Editions as well, and re-do the CGI at higher resolution, but maybe they’re just going to leave that alone entirely, since that was George’s project.

Why would that be expected? That would be a vast and herculean effort. Finding, recovering, transferring, and then re-rendering 30-year-old CGI renders? Not to mention, they would have to re-scan other pieces of film missing from the theatrical cuts. To give a little away (and I won’t go any further), the '97 film out inserts were not scanned for this. In fact, if the documents are to be believed (which, btw, is not a 100% sure thing), then those pieces of film are no longer part of the negatives…

-TGWNN