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It’s not coming back. I’m not sure where that rumor got sourced from but that source wasn’t provided and I’m betting it’s not a source anyone should be paying attention to anyway, LOL.

Why would you need to UPSCALE a restoration from the OCN? That just… doesn’t make any sense. The only way that rumor takes any sort of hold is if the person making it up knows the audience they’re trying to share it with thinks about this stuff like it’s video games.

Lucasfilm isn’t going to artificially motion interpolate this to 120fps. Nobody wants it. Almost nobody can watch it like that. There’s no point.

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David Fincher’s recent remaster of Seven was done at 8k.

Ang Lee’s last two films were shot and completed in 120p 3D.

James Cameron decided to shoot the Avatar sequels in 48p 3D and motion grade to 24p depending on the shot. Like I said, he applied the motion grading tech to certain scenes in Titanic and the first Avatar so they’d look smoother when projected in high framerate.

Cameron even let Park Road Post use their AI on the existing 4k master of Titanic from 2012, presumably just to see how much detail it could bring out. The 4k remaster of The Abyss used their tech as well. They also (rather shamefully imo) took the existing 2k masters of Aliens, True Lies, and the original Terminator and ran them through the AI to upscale them to 4k instead of at the very least using a fresh 4k scan of the negatives like they did with The Abyss. The original Avatar is effectively stuck at 2k simply by virtue of how it was made and the 4k is an AI-upscale as well.

So yeah, precedent exists for all of this but not a combination of all three like this random rumor claims. There’s no mention of 3D, but c’mon, The OT are now the only Star Wars films not converted into 3D. I can’t imagine a 120p master being created without 3D factoring into it somehow.

I’m also leaning towards them having heard the term “8k,” which was mentioned in the alleged leaked document Eck showed a little clip of, and conflating that with 120p and AI and somehow thinking they were talking about the unaltered versions when, ahem, such a process would make them no longer the original versions anyway.

But future-proofing the SE and maybe the entire saga? That I could see as a possibility, although I don’t think I want to know what the finished in 2k PT looks like upscaled to 8k.

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Thanks for the extra context! And to add a little of my own - Fincher, Lee, and Cameron are, frankly, weirdos who seem to have gotten way too caught up in digital nonsense and AI adjustments, and have all caught a raft of shit for doing what they’re doing - especially when it comes to pretending like the movies they made 30 years ago were ACTUALLY made with modern equipment by the weird goateed men they are 30 years later. Lee’s basically not even a factor here anymore, and Cameron’s the only one still with any weight or power to force theaters to screen things in anything other than 2D 4K 24fps theatrically - and even in those instances it’s a tiny percentage of theaters that comply and those screenings aren’t going over well anyway.

I’d like for whoever posted that BS “8K/120fps” rumor to source where that rumor came from, honestly, so we can just straight up write that source off wholesale. I’d also suggest that, looking at what’s already been posted (the reddit thread, the YouTube Videos) we’re working with some pretty hard to argue with details, that are also being fed through some really squirrelly folks who are under the mistaken impression they have a lot of power they aren’t anywhere near holding, being super-nervous and scared about accidentally canceling a whole restoration that’s been ongoing for 3 years before the leak even happened and has now been formally announced a year and a half ahead of time, LOL.

You got the YouTuber not quite parsing what’s being given to him by folks who honestly think they can get a whole restoration shut down because they happened across a coding mistake that made this stuff visible on a private YouTube channel (which was happening whether they saw it or not, LOL) and people who are - honestly - ritualized and by force-of-habit, conditioned to disbelieve and poke holes in anything positive, to revert to figuring out how this is George Lucas’ fault and how he can still ruin it singlehandedly, and cite contract stipulations that don’t exist, to rationalize how none of this is actually coming to pass, despite the fact most of these details were already out there for a full month before an announcement even got made…

And now you ALSO apparently have folks who have no clue what’s going on, chiming in off to the side with “Rumors” based on misunderstanding how the restoration even works, seeing that the team is scanning some components of the OCN and the Interpositives (if not all of elements needed!) at 8K resolutions (if not higher) and presuming that means the restoration team (which, looking at the reddit descriptions of the leaks, isn’t even Lucasfilm OR Disney, but a third party working with them) is pulling a James Cameron on old trash 2K elements from decades ago because (???) and then just… saying it, and then other people just sharing it (with no accreditation) because (???)

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Broom Kid said:

Thanks for the extra context! And to add a little of my own - Fincher, Lee, and Cameron are, frankly, weirdos who seem to have gotten way too caught up in digital nonsense and AI adjustments, and have all caught a raft of shit for doing what they’re doing - especially when it comes to pretending like the movies they made 30 years ago were ACTUALLY made with modern equipment by the weird goateed men they are 30 years later. Lee’s basically not even a factor here anymore, and Cameron’s the only one still with any weight or power to force theaters to screen things in anything other than 2D 4K 24fps theatrically - and even in those instances it’s a tiny percentage of theaters that comply and those screenings aren’t going over well anyway.

I’d like for whoever posted that BS “8K/120fps” rumor to source where that rumor came from, honestly, so we can just straight up write that source off wholesale. I’d also suggest that, looking at what’s already been posted (the reddit thread, the YouTube Videos) we’re working with some pretty hard to argue with details, that are also being fed through some really squirrelly folks who are under the mistaken impression they have a lot of power they aren’t anywhere near holding, being super-nervous and scared about accidentally canceling a whole restoration that’s been ongoing for 3 years before the leak even happened and has now been formally announced a year and a half ahead of time, LOL.

You got the YouTuber not quite parsing what’s being given to him by folks who honestly think they can get a whole restoration shut down because they happened across a coding mistake that made this stuff visible on a private YouTube channel (which was happening whether they saw it or not, LOL) and people who are - honestly - ritualized and by force-of-habit, conditioned to disbelieve and poke holes in anything positive, to revert to figuring out how this is George Lucas’ fault and how he can still ruin it singlehandedly, and cite contract stipulations that don’t exist, to rationalize how none of this is actually coming to pass, despite the fact most of these details were already out there for a full month before an announcement even got made…

And now you ALSO apparently have folks who have no clue what’s going on, chiming in off to the side with “Rumors” based on misunderstanding how the restoration even works, seeing that the team is scanning some components of the OCN and the Interpositives (if not all of elements needed!) at 8K resolutions (if not higher) and presuming that means the restoration team (which, looking at the reddit descriptions of the leaks, isn’t even Lucasfilm OR Disney, but a third party working with them) is pulling a James Cameron on old trash 2K elements from decades ago because (???) and then just… saying it, and then other people just sharing it (with no accreditation) because (???)

Who the hell mentioned 120fps??? Also, films have been restored in 8K since the early 2000s, buddy. Don’t go barking up the wrong horse here… No one mentioned upscalling, or 120 FPS, not even ECK… All that just materialised here in this thread.

-TGWNN

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I’m clearly talking about a poster coming into this thread and mentioning 120fps, so you can see who mentioned it by scrolling up. C’mon now. The post you just quoted entirely in full contains a sentence from me flatly stating “I’d like for whoever posted that BS “8K/120fps” rumor to source where that rumor came from, honestly, so we can just straight up write that source off wholesale.” so it shouldn’t be confusing, haha.

I’m not sure why you’re responding to me like “nobody said these things” when it’s pretty clear people said these things and I’m rebutting them in favor of the things you and I both seem to know, but you’re apparently annoyed that I know them?

I’m helping squash a rumor introduced into this thread, that Disney is going to take a restoration from the negative and then turn it into sold-at-retail, shown-in-theaters, screened-on-Disney+, 8k 120fps Cameron-esque AI-slopped “for the gamerz” type atrocity; squashing said unsourced rumor brought into this specific thread shouldn’t really be a bad thing, and I’m kind of confused as to why you’re annoyed by that?

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Uh yeah no need to get heated over this dude, just read up a bit. Save your annoyance for the inevitably disappointing news.

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I’d like to see a restored theatrical cut, but not necessarily for me - I have 4K77 and am a trillion percent satisfied. I just want Star Wars to get the respect it deserves. Not ‘Star Wars the IP’, and not ‘A New Hope’ which has become the sluggish part 4 of a convoluted series…I mean Star Wars, the film from 1977 that changed the world and is/was a cinematic and cultural milestone.