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Post #1655963

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Gregor
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Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [CLOSED]
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Date created
11-Jul-2025, 8:37 PM

Venny said:

simps said:

TristAndShout64 said:

simps said:

TristAndShout64 said:

I’m sorry everybody- but I’m refunding everybody who I haven’t sent the scan to yet.

This project has gotten uncomfortably big for me and I am obsessively paranoid about copyright issues, so I don’t want the final scan to become as widespread as I predict it to become.

I have found a large chunk of people in this community to be incredibly rude, disrespectful, and entirely ignorant of how dangerous it is to share these sorts of things on a widespread scale, and I don’t wish to associate with it any longer except for in as private of a context as possible.

The leaks that happened not too long ago have eliminated just about any trust I have for the majority of this community, and therefore I am no longer comfortable sending this film to so many people. This is a big reason as to why I have been stalling ever since the print got scanned- though the busy nature of my personal life certainly hasn’t helped.

Also, I hate to say it- but with where I am in life currently, I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with this caliber of shit. It has become more stressful than fun at this point. I raised far more money than I ended up needing, so I feel that this is ultimately the right thing to do.

I have already refunded everybody on PayPal (except for a VERY small, as in single-digit, number of people who I trust), something to the tune of $500 total. The full scan will not be sent to anybody who hasn’t received it already, and I don’t recommend DMing me asking if you can donate or get the scan or have your donation back or anything along those lines, because I’m not going to respond. Clips of the scan may be uploaded to YouTube at some point, but only to an extent that doesn’t potentially incur any wrath from a certain large, soulless corporation that happens to own the film and all IPs within it.

My apologies to anybody who is disappointed by this. I started out extremely excited about the prospect of doing this project and sharing it with everybody who helped out- and in the end, I am extremely satisfied with how the scan looks, and I hope to share it in some capacity in the near or distant future. A lot of you were really cool when I messaged you and have been super patient, so I’m sorry that this is the way it has to be. Still, I need to put my real life before my life on the Internet, and this has simply become too much for me, so I’ve finally decided that this is what I must do.

If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!

Perhaps a full 35mm scan of this movie (be it mine or somebody else’s) will publicly surface one day- but even if it doesn’t, Toy Story is still one of the greatest animated films of all time. That’s what brought us together in the first place- great movies! 😃

To everybody who offered their support towards this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity- thank you for your passionate interest that you shared with so many other denizens here on the 'net. To my closest homies in this community- GOD BLESS YOU. #norbitrobbinscut 😎

~TristAndShout

Suffice to say, I am livid. This was the first project I donated to, and will likely be the last. To have us wait for so long and just be given that. You should’ve known better. If you donate and contribute to a scan project, donors should be given the scan, end of. Toy Story is one of my childhood movies, and to see a 35mm copy being hoarded, pisses me off. I don’t know what pisses me off more, the hoarding or the lies. While I did get a refund, it doesn’t make up for the fact that I was cheated and I’m sure everyone else feels cheated too. I may never send money to a scanning project ever again because you scammed me and all of your donors. The phrase “one bad apple, spoils the bunch” most definitely applies here. How can I trust anyone not knowing whether or not they’re just going to hoard it in the end ? While your project may have started with good intentions; the reason why I donated was to help you and so I would get a copy of the movie in 35mm in return. The fact you pull this shit is ridiculous and now comes off as you taking advantage of people that wanted to see a scan of this movie in 35mm. Especially given the alterations the movie has received over the years and hasn’t been theatrically accurate since the Laserdisc era.

The fact you say this :
“If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!”

You are pulling a George Lucas by saying “watch the movie as it is right now with all the alterations and that’s the definitive way to watch the movie and the original will be not available unless you buy an OOP DVD of a LD non-anamorphic transfer that has a ton of DNR.”

The right thing to do is give a link to the people who donated so they can download it.

~Guy who donated $1

And? Whether it’s $1 or $100, they’re still helping you fund the project regardless. My donation amount doesn’t suddenly diminish my point that you wasted our time and how you screwed over your donors by not giving us the scan we helped you fund. Also, your attitude towards your lower contributing donors isn’t helping matters either.

How many times does he have to say he’s refunding and having people in the thread say they are getting refunds does it take for you to be happy? If you want your 1 buck back I’m sure Trist will happily refund it to you as he has many of the other people here

Venny, you’re being disingenuous. Getting a refund isn’t the only issue here. It’s Tristan crowdfunding more than enough, and over the course of 2 years, communicating with donors that the Toy Story scan is coming.

TristAndShout64 said:

Hey y’all– the final encode is FINALLY finished and I’m currently in the process of slowly but surely getting it out to people. Thank you for bearing with me!

My apologies, I have indeed been quite busy with my personal life being a bit of a mess at the moment. I will be messaging people individually and getting the necessary details to share the scan with them– just hang in there, we are so close!

~Trist

Then the rug pull and Tristan now holds a finished scan not just for himself but for an exclusive, non-transparent group of donors… all while being “obsessively paranoid about copyright issues”? Did this obsession develop recently?

TristAndShout64 said:

…I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with this caliber of shit.

What is lacking from Tristan and trolls here is some empathy for how this outcome would make an excluded donor feel. Tristan, you realize all donors had to deal with your caliber of shit of dragging your feet on this crowdfund and lack of communication along the way, right? What an embarrassing attitude coming from you and your clique of donors.

chocolateintheair said:

NC-17peter said:

Juicy Pep said:

There’s two school of thoughts here.

  1. Scans should be public and be shared with the whole world
  2. Scans should be private and should be shared with only a small group of donors

Not everyone on this website is in group 2, a lot of people on this website are actually in group 1. So it’s very hard to keep a project funded here private.

The good news is that, NC-17 will give us Toy Story 35mm scan for free 😃

Hey man,

I’m actively hunting it down. Part 2 seems to be a lot more common, but if you’re patient, I’m confident I can track down Part 1. I’m about 90% sure I have a partial print in Russian and another in Italian. One way or another, I’ll make it happen.

That said, I need to be honest about something. I think a big issue surrounding this scan is how Tristan has been treating the people who supported it—especially the Patrons who helped fund it. It’s pretty disheartening to see people being told some supporters are getting copies while others are getting refunds. Then there’s the excuse about being “worried it might leak” and somehow getting hit with copyright claims… I mean, come on—this site made its name off Star Wars scans. It doesn’t get more high-risk than that.

Look, I understand that scanning is expensive and time-consuming. But let’s be real: you didn’t make the film. You didn’t animate it. Your name isn’t creatively tied to Pixar. Having a limited exclusive window for funders? Totally fair. But acting like a scan gives you permanent ownership over a cultural artifact just because you bought the print and paid for a scan—that’s not preservation, that’s gatekeeping.

The more attention film print scans get, the better. Labels are obsessed with negatives. Studios don’t give a damn about film print scans right now. Ironically, what we’re doing might be giving them the best preservation copy they’ll ever see. And you’d be surprised how many filmmakers, producers, and even studios quietly acknowledge that.

To a lot of people, getting a 35mm scan of a beloved film is a huge deal. They wait patiently—sometimes for years—for a chance to see it. So when you tell them that only a select few get access while everyone else gets a refund or silence, it leaves a bad taste. Especially when the people being denied were the same ones defending you when delays piled up.

And about the leaks—you keep pointing fingers, but let’s be honest: the only leaks in the last year have been from my scans. And I’m fine with that. After a 3-month exclusivity period, I open it up for everyone. That’s how I operate. Ironically, I’m often accused of leaking things, but the truth is, it’s usually someone else acting in bad faith. Meanwhile, I keep scanning and pushing forward.

Some people in this community think I’ve ruined it. Maybe that’s what the loudest voices say. But I’ve tried to be transparent every step of the way. I didn’t just buy a basic Cintel or Kinetta—I built my own scanner, from the ground up. It works completely differently from anything out there. And I did that for one reason: to preserve film.

Honestly, it feels like we need a full reset in this scene. If you’re into film preservation just so you can hoard art that isn’t yours, what’s the point? If you’re passionate about cinema, then that passion should be contagious—not buried under layers of secrecy and power trips.

You might not like me. That’s fine. But I hope you respect the work ethic and what I’m trying to do. We don’t have to be best friends—but we should be working together. Because at the end of the day, this is about one thing: the love of cinema. And if we lose sight of that, what are we even doing?

oh please don’t make me fucking laugh. if it hadn’t leaked you were literally just talking about how you weren’t gonna put die hard 2 out after yapping for months about how it would go out like everything else please stfu about gatekeeping. pls stfu about any and everything actually. if you wanna scan toy story then go scan fucking toy story, stop acting like some kind of authority figure talking down to people who have been doing this for YEARS while you have like a year at best and scans of movies that no one gives a fuck about lol. just mind your own fucking business, stop telling people how they “should” be doing things in “this scene” and letting chatgpt format and correct your little outbursts on forums where people have told you over and over again to JUST STFU. christ.

Hey asshole, touch some grass.