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Dagenspear
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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8-Jul-2025, 4:13 AM

SparkySywer said:

What would change your mind? What counts as “actively making her mad”? I think the first scene they have together (starting when they meet, ending when Padmé “retires”) is pretty damning, and that’s why I brought it up like three or four times. Clearly you don’t. What do you think is going through these characters’ minds in these scenes if not a really negative perception of Anakin? Why did George Lucas cut to these reaction shots of everyone in the room being uncomfortable? What was he trying to communicate?

When Anakin makes an inappropriate advance on Padmé within seconds of meeting her for the first time since he was nine, why does she react the way she does? What’s going through her head? And what does her response mean?

It would be one thing if George Lucas was just not very socially gifted and accidentally wrote Anakin in a way that came off as creepy, and an asshole. But the movie seems to intentionally draw attention to it. It’s just baffling. What do you think she sees in him?

Him trying to upset her and her getting mad is what I would consider that. Anakin is neither trying to upset her and neither do I think she gets mad at him in their first scene. He’s just being overly awkward. Your words on how you describe the situation is changing, to me. You said it makes Padme mad, now you’re bringing up the idea of a negative perception of Anakin. I don’t think Padme is mad at Anakin at all in that scene. Awkward, yes, but mad? And I don’t think he’s being a jerk to her in that scene either. A jerk to Obi, yeah, but not her and I don’t think she gets mad at him for it.

I think the term “advance” is a bit much. He over shares his feelings and then tries to correct it as a light moment of banter, to me, ‘for a senator I mean’. I see her response as a light awkwardness, not being mad at him. If you think she should feel a different way, I think that’s your opinion and you have your God given free will to have it, but I’m not sure I think the same really.

I debate the notion of being creepy to that degree. I think he has scenes where he could come off as weird or such, but I don’t see it as that creepy that much.

I’m not defending how the relationship dynamics unfold. I said to someone else above I think the writing isn’t that strong, to me. But my main criticisms aren’t Anakin acts creepy.

I’ll give you this one, I forgot about that scene.

I think the majority of their scenes are mostly amicable, until Anakin overly shares and presses things into awkwardness or weird. I think some kind of creepiness could be there, but I don’t see it as that huge of a deal. To me, it’s all awkward dialogue and romance building issues. I think the movie is put in a position to build their entire romance from scratch, based on TPM making them not peers (this isn’t a criticism of that choice, more an observation, from my perspective, as I think Anakin’s age works more for nearly every other relationship he has, except Padme), and on top of that I think it makes it so the bulk of their relationship bonding happens within the movie to get them to being in love at the end.

Compared to Han and Leia, I think it’s weaker written in dynamics and structure, where Han and Leia’s bonding in ANH occurs with them as closer to peers in spite of their overall age difference, and in TESB it’s suggested their relationship bonding has continued in-between movies, which I think takes the bonding writing pressure off of their relationship. I have criticisms about how they’re relationship is written, but I still think it’s written overall stronger.