“Monsters, Inc.” - Original Theatrical Presentation (HELP NEEDED)

Hello guys. Been a while since I’ve been on this site, but now I’m gonna start a project that I will actually complete this time…

“Monsters, Inc.” - Original Theatrical Presentation is a project that attempts recreating the original theatrical version of the 2001 Pixar comedy, “Monsters, Inc.”. The project will recreate the following:

Original Theatrical Trailer Reel - The trailers that originally proceeded the film theatrically, as proven by older forms from Film-Tech. The trailers include:

• Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone
• Ice Age
• ET 20th Anniversary
• The Rookie
• Snow Dogs
• Stuart Little 2
• Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius
• Return to Neverland (attached)
• Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (attached)

The trailers that aren’t labeled with “(attached)” will be optional trailers when the final product arrives.

For the Birds - The short that proceeded the feature will also be involved in the project. As evident by an old bootleg recording of the film, the credits of the Short were shortened for time. As such, the short’s credits will be altered for this project.

The Feature Film - The film will run at 24fps and will be available in 1080p. A 4K version will be made if I ever decide on doing it. For planned audio tracks, scroll further down on the page. In the film, there is a scene that is censored. The scene in general is the snow-cone scene, where the snow cones don’t have the snowy texture to them in most versions of the film. The only releases that uncensor this include the old DVD, and the 3D version of the film: the 3D version will be the source used for the scenes where the cones are visible. For the film itself, the original BD release will be used.

Versions - Two versions of the film will be available. One version features the outtakes at the end, while the other version doesn’t. I have already done a test of the outtake credits, so if you want to see that, PM me. The versions will also contain the optional trailers mentioned above.

Audio - The standard audio source for the film will be the English DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio track from the BD. The trailers will be presented in 2.0 if a 5.1 track isn’t available. The 5.1 track will be altered for the “outtake” edit of the film.

Outtake Credits - The version of the feature film that includes the outtakes during the credits is a very strange case in terms of finding a 1080p version. It has appeared on several international TV broadcasts (like Star Movies HD in Chinese & Disney Junior Latin America), but no 1080p version is fully accessible publicly on any physical media. If you have a rip of these outtakes, please PM me! It’s definitely needed for the project.

This project will be a big one, hoping that this actually ends up working in the end!

SOURCES:

• Monsters, Inc. - Blu-ray from 2009 (Feature & Short Film)
• YouTube & Various DVD releases (Trailers)
• Any international TV airing of the film that utilizes the outtake credits.

Dozer Davis, 12-31-22

Do you have a comparison of the snow cone censorship you’re speaking of? I can’t seem to find one online.

You guys seem to be interested in the “snow cones” censorship part of the forum. Well, here is a comparison of both the 3D blu-ray & the 2009 blu-ray:

As you can clearly see, the censored version (right) loses the detail of the snow cones as seen on the uncensored version (left).

If you can’t see the image, go here: https://imgur.io/a/QhGfpiY

IncrediStudios said:

You guys seem to be interested in the “snow cones” censorship part of the forum. Well, here is a comparison of both the 3D blu-ray & the 2009 blu-ray:

As you can clearly see, the censored version (right) loses the detail of the snow cones as seen on the uncensored version (left).

If you can’t see the image, go here: https://imgur.io/a/QhGfpiY

Damn. That is weird that they would censor something like that.

So the end credit outakes are in none of the home versions?

Actually, they are in some home versions. Even the 3D Blu-ray, unless I’m mistaken, has them as a special feature, because I know a true 3D version is floating around on the web somewhere, having seen it for myself.

Doctor M said:

IncrediStudios said:

You guys seem to be interested in the “snow cones” censorship part of the forum. Well, here is a comparison of both the 3D blu-ray & the 2009 blu-ray:

As you can clearly see, the censored version (right) loses the detail of the snow cones as seen on the uncensored version (left).

If you can’t see the image, go here: https://imgur.io/a/QhGfpiY

Are the snow cones really censored? What am I seeing that they don’t want me to see there?

CloakedDragon97 said:

Why were the snow cones changed?

My guess on that, they didn’t want it to look like someone pissed on those cones.

Class316 said:

Doctor M said:

IncrediStudios said:

You guys seem to be interested in the “snow cones” censorship part of the forum. Well, here is a comparison of both the 3D blu-ray & the 2009 blu-ray:

As you can clearly see, the censored version (right) loses the detail of the snow cones as seen on the uncensored version (left).

If you can’t see the image, go here: https://imgur.io/a/QhGfpiY

Are the snow cones really censored? What am I seeing that they don’t want me to see there?

CloakedDragon97 said:

Why were the snow cones changed?

My guess on that, they didn’t want it to look like someone pissed on those cones.

I’d hesitate to call this actual censorship. Seems like some kind of rendering error or something. If it was really meant to be censored then why were they still including the original DVD in combo packs with the initial Blu-ray release and why would the texturing return in the 3D release which came AFTER the initial Blu-ray? I’m pretty sure this is some sort of mistake. When Disney intentionally alters something, they are pretty consistent about it. Those cones look like unfinished animation. If they were concerned about them looking peed on then why not just change the color altogether? The dialogue makes it quite clear that they are snow cones so why would they intentionally remove the obvious snow texturing?.

SpacemanDoug said:

Nien Nunb said:

Class316 said:

Doctor M said:

IncrediStudios said:

You guys seem to be interested in the “snow cones” censorship part of the forum. Well, here is a comparison of both the 3D blu-ray & the 2009 blu-ray:

As you can clearly see, the censored version (right) loses the detail of the snow cones as seen on the uncensored version (left).

If you can’t see the image, go here: https://imgur.io/a/QhGfpiY

Are the snow cones really censored? What am I seeing that they don’t want me to see there?

CloakedDragon97 said:

Why were the snow cones changed?

My guess on that, they didn’t want it to look like someone pissed on those cones.

I’d hesitate to call this actual censorship. Seems like some kind of rendering error or something. If it was really meant to be censored then why were they still including the original DVD in combo packs with the initial Blu-ray release and why would the texturing return in the 3D release which came AFTER the initial Blu-ray? I’m pretty sure this is some sort of mistake. When Disney intentionally alters something, they are pretty consistent about it. Those cones look like unfinished animation. If they were concerned about them looking peed on then why not just change the color altogether? The dialogue makes it quite clear that they are snow cones so why would they intentionally remove the obvious snow texturing?.

That’s what I was thinking too, a literal error

It reminds me of that shot in Toy Story 3 where they show home movie footage of Andy as a younger child and the headboard of his bed is intersecting with the wall in the actual film but in the trailer, the error is not present.

Class316 said:
So the end credit outakes are in none of the home versions?

Charles Threepio said:

Actually, they are in some home versions. Even the 3D Blu-ray, unless I’m mistaken, has them as a special feature, because I know a true 3D version is floating around on the web somewhere, having seen it for myself.

Most of this is correct. The DVD & 3D version have the outtakes. The 3D outtakes, however, are part of a separate bonus feature (instead of being part of the main feature, like the 3D re-release prints) as the credits there utilize the same credits seen on D+. The original DVD is the only way to get the original outtakes with the credits. Yet even then, the DVD credits are slightly edited to remove any Technicolor or PixarVision credits. You can also find them on specific Latin American tv airings, as several low quality videos have surfaced online providing footage of the credits, which will give you a good example as to how the DVD credits are edited. Here’s one example, with a kid annoyingly humming and clapping to the song playing: https://youtu.be/DGVK-hGUWqY

NOW CALLING FOR HELP ON GETTING A HIGH QUALITY RIP OF THE OUTTAKE CREDITS FOR V2 TO BE MADE. THE CREDITS CAN BE FOUND ON SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL TV AIRINGS, RANGING FROM STAR MOVIES HD (Chinese) AND DISNEY JUNIOR (Latin America). IF YOU CAN RETRIEVE A 1080p RIP OF THESE CREDITS, PLEASE PM ME.

Will there be color correction applied to this release to match the original DVD colors? The current release on Blu-ray or Disney+ features a somewhat washed-out color palette that isn’t nearly as vibrant as the DVD. For example, Sulley’s fur looked a lot bluer in the original release, and the current version on Blu-Ray and Disney+ also has a weird greenish tint that makes the film’s color pallete look actively worse that the original DVD just didnt have.

hharlan23 said:

I think so. But, why are you concerned about the colors?

I guess it’s because the colors of the original DVD are closer to the original presentation of the film that people saw in theaters, as it was also the original render of the film before the Blu-ray. Also, the DVD colors match the film’s color script and are very clearly what was intended to be the film’s look.

hharlan23 said:

2 options. We can either:

1. Clean, enhance and upscale the entire film of the original DVD version to 1080p HD using Topaz AI to match with the Blu-Ray footage and rip the subtitles from the DVD and make some edits and no subtitles errors will be made.

Or:

2. Just rotoscope the original snow cones colors from the DVD onto the Blu-ray footage and color correct the Blu-ray footage so it’s more accurate to the original DVD version or the original theatrical presentation.

Your choice.

Option 2 would be the best course of action. Also, considering that the 3D Blu-ray has the original snow cones, wouldn’t it be best to use that since it’s in 1080p?

Edit: I just reviewed the information for this project, and the 3D Blu-ray will be used for the snow cone part.