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G&G-Fan said:

You said Ep1 would be the new introduction to Tatooine. Can you explain in detail how you’ve accomplished that?

I will. But not yet, because that’ll be one of the things I cover in Episode 5 of the YouTube show. It’ll be a lot easier to explain with visual aids. 😉

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G&G-Fan said:

JoyOfEditing said:
It starts with the Death Star II being built and ends with it being blown up.

Huh?

I understand everything else but I’m a little confused here.

Return of the Jedi begins with Vader arriving at the Death Star II as it hovers over Endor, and it ends with the Death Star blowing up and a victory celebration down on the planet.

The Phantom Menace directly mirrors Return of the Jedi, because it begins with the Jedi arriving at the Trade Federation Control Ship as it hovers over Naboo, and it ends with the Control Ship blowing up and a victory celebration on the planet.

Make sense?

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I don’t like Return of the Jedi that much either but if Jedi copied TPM Chief Chirpa and Wicket would escape through the Imperial shield, attempt to meet up with the Rebel fleet to plead for help and get shot down over Tatooine. They help Luke rescue Han from Jabba and Leia convinces the fleet to attack the Death Star. Wicket confesses to actually being Chief Chirpa in disguise. Which foxes Lando who has inexplicably fallen in love with him. At the celebration ceremony one of the revelers is looking a bit Snoke shaped and is smiling sinisterly at Han and Leia clearly in love. Actually a better film.

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JoyOfEditing said:

Yo! New RECUT is now live for Watto’s Shop: https://youtu.be/PEOioLEokYs

I’ll be covering this sequence in Episode 5 of the Joy of Editing. In the meantime, lemme know what y’all think and Enjoy the Edit!

I like it, I like the pacing and the presentation - it both looks and feels better. Though there is one small thing I’d change if it were my edit. I’d remove the shot of the group exiting the shop, where Jar Jar is flopsying about in the doorway. Not because of any anti-Gungan sentiments, because mesa liken the Gungans, but when Padme says goodbye and smiles at Ani he doesn’t verbally respond, and we don’t see that it’s because he’s giving a little social smile back at her until after that shot of them all leaving. Ani mightn’t have had time to say anything because Watto flew in right behind Qui-Gon. So, if their exit is removed, we can go right from Padme’s face to Ani’s reaction, to him turning to look at Watto. It’s clear that they’re all leaving because of Qui-Gon speeding through and Padme turns to leave as she says goodbye so nothing important would be lost. To me, the rhythm is better and bringing those two shots together ends Padme and Ani’s first meeting on a connection rather than a separation, which is, I think, the point of that interaction.

Just my thoughts. But great work as usual, I love everything you’re doing here.

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Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:

JoyOfEditing said:

Yo! New RECUT is now live for Watto’s Shop: https://youtu.be/PEOioLEokYs

I’ll be covering this sequence in Episode 5 of the Joy of Editing. In the meantime, lemme know what y’all think and Enjoy the Edit!

I like it, I like the pacing and the presentation - it both looks and feels better. Though there is one small thing I’d change if it were my edit. I’d remove the shot of the group exiting the shop, where Jar Jar is flopsying about in the doorway. Not because of any anti-Gungan sentiments, because mesa liken the Gungans, but when Padme says goodbye and smiles at Ani he doesn’t verbally respond, and we don’t see that it’s because he’s giving a little social smile back at her until after that shot of them all leaving. Ani mightn’t have had time to say anything because Watto flew in right behind Qui-Gon. So, if their exit is removed, we can go right from Padme’s face to Ani’s reaction, to him turning to look at Watto. It’s clear that they’re all leaving because of Qui-Gon speeding through and Padme turns to leave as she says goodbye so nothing important would be lost. To me, the rhythm is better and bringing those two shots together ends Padme and Ani’s first meeting on a connection rather than a separation, which is, I think, the point of that interaction.

Just my thoughts. But great work as usual, I love everything you’re doing here.

Ah! The ol’ duplicate post glitcheroo. . . See below. 😉

Enjoy the Edit! - https://www.youtube.com/@JoyofEditing

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Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:

JoyOfEditing said:

Yo! New RECUT is now live for Watto’s Shop: https://youtu.be/PEOioLEokYs

I’ll be covering this sequence in Episode 5 of the Joy of Editing. In the meantime, lemme know what y’all think and Enjoy the Edit!

I like it, I like the pacing and the presentation - it both looks and feels better. Though there is one small thing I’d change if it were my edit. I’d remove the shot of the group exiting the shop, where Jar Jar is flopsying about in the doorway. Not because of any anti-Gungan sentiments, because mesa liken the Gungans, but when Padme says goodbye and smiles at Ani he doesn’t verbally respond, and we don’t see that it’s because he’s giving a little social smile back at her until after that shot of them all leaving. Ani mightn’t have had time to say anything because Watto flew in right behind Qui-Gon. So, if their exit is removed, we can go right from Padme’s face to Ani’s reaction, to him turning to look at Watto. It’s clear that they’re all leaving because of Qui-Gon speeding through and Padme turns to leave as she says goodbye so nothing important would be lost. To me, the rhythm is better and bringing those two shots together ends Padme and Ani’s first meeting on a connection rather than a separation, which is, I think, the point of that interaction.

Just my thoughts. But great work as usual, I love everything you’re doing here.

Yo! Glad you’ve been enjoying the recuts!

To your point, that would be an excellent way to cut the sequence! In fact I’d say George Lucas agrees with you, because the original way that scene runs is this: Padme says, “I’m glad to have met you Anakin.” - Anakin calls back, “It was good to meet you too!” (This is the shot I cut) - The crew exits and Jar Jar get confused - Cut Back to Anakin smiling after Padme and Watto complaining.

But. . . There is a overly-complex reason why I changed that wee little cut. Frankly, it’s hard to explain without writing a novel, so I’ll try to break it down into pieces.

  1. Technically: The cut on action of Natalie turning to leave improves the rhythm and feels super natural.

  2. The in-scene flow/humor is easier to follow for the audience. The original cut is this: Jar Jar is dropping a bunch of crap - Qui-Gon is annoyed with him/Watto for not taking the credits - Jar Jar drops the crap - Padme says goodbye - Annie Says goodbye - Padme is actually leaving this time - Jar Jar is confused - Annie smiles - Watto Complains.

Here’s what the focus of the original sequence looks like if I assign numbers to the characters (Qui-Gon = 1, Padme = 2, Jar-Jar = 3, Annie = 4, Watto = 5): 3 - 1 - 3 - 2 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 4 - 5

And here’s the flow of my cut: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

By reworking the flow that way, the logic/humor of the scene is changed to this: Qui-Gon is JUST ticked with Watto and ready to get out of there. His brisk departure breaks up the meet cute between Anakin/Padme, so the cares of the world are breaking them up, not a juggling Gungan. If you don’t cut back to Annie, saying goodbye, Jar Jar’s confusion acts a “back to reality” beat - The “Angel” has left the building taking the magic with her. The transition from Anakin’s theme to street noises also helps to sell this effect. The cut back to Watto, completes the “Tone Sandwich”: Qui-Gon is worried about paying for the parts - Padme flashes Anakin a warm and beautiful smile - Watto dismisses the “Outlanders” for not paying properly.

  1. The META reason that I made that change has to do with how Watto’s Shop is a inverse mirror of Luke’s introduction in Episode IV, specifically the scene in Obi-Wan’s house. In that scene Obi-Wan tells Luke he needs to go save the Princess and freely gives Luke his fathers’ lightsaber. In the Phantom Menace, there is no way for Anakin to be close to Padme, because she is a Queen and he is a Slave, BUT he follows her anyway - at least in my cut. . .

Originally, we cut from Watto’s shop to Qui-Gon chatting with Obi-Wan about the money situation, then to Jar Jar getting into a fight with Sebulba, then to Obi-Wan fretting about the Sandstorm, and then to Annie inviting his new friends to ride out the storm at his place.

In my cut we go straight from Anakin being sent home by Watto to Obi-Wan fretting about the Sandstorm, which means that we then cut back directly to Anakin tugging on Qui-Gon’s tunic trying to get his attention. In that exchange Qui-Gon lifts his robe to reveal his “laser sword” which Anakin’s looks at with longing. This change makes it feel like Anakin intentionally followed Padme and Qui-Gon, because they both have the two things he wants, but can’t have - Love and Power. Anakin’s lust for forbidden love and power will lead to his downfall, and so in this little sequence you have the foreshadowing of Anakin’s entire journey. Luke is called to save a Princess and become a Jedi, whereas Anakin will find a way to achieve his desires, because he’s afraid of missing out.

So! To finally answer your original point, that is why I cut Padme leaving the shop focusing on the separation rather than the connection, so that their initial meeting foreshadows their inevitable separation at the end Revenge of the Sith.

. . . And this is why editing is hard, lol!

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New Video: https://youtu.be/xMP2m-SwhD4?si=0CEaNkKMOB-T8hKe

It’s a WIP of five minutes from the End Battle from Phantom Menace. A big thank you to Phase3 for his help with the clean SFX 5.1 track, and all of the cut shots he’s been restoring (seven of which feature in this clip). Lemme know what y’all think, especially concerning the SFX on the new shots. I had to build the soundtrack from scratch on those.

Major Bonus Points if anyone can find the one shot that has a new visual effect composited in.

Enjoy the Edit!

-JoE

Enjoy the Edit! - https://www.youtube.com/@JoyofEditing

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JoyOfEditing said:

New Video: https://youtu.be/xMP2m-SwhD4?si=0CEaNkKMOB-T8hKe

It’s a WIP of five minutes from the End Battle from Phantom Menace. A big thank you to Phase3 for his help with the clean SFX 5.1 track, and all of the cut shots he’s been restoring (seven of which feature in this clip). Lemme know what y’all think, especially concerning the SFX on the new shots. I had to build the soundtrack from scratch on those.

Major Bonus Points if anyone can find the one shot that has a new visual effect composited in.

Enjoy the Edit!

-JoE

Looking good! I know it’s temp but the lack of music gives it a vibe lol. I love all the extended footage

As for my guess for the new element: The fire on the Naboo fighter around the 2:25 mark? If not that maybe more of the shot, doesn’t look familiar but also doesn’t have the same upscaled quality the other added footage does lol.

Another thought is maybe a lightsaber effect somewhere in the extended footage I missed, otherwise no clue lol.

Honestly speaking of VFX edits pertaining to lightsabers that one close up of Obi-Wan always bothers me because the lightsaber is matted terribly and looks almost see through.

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Love love loved this video Joy!! It’s wild how good you are at duel & chase scenes! The SFX were perfect, I didn’t notice anything out of place. I can’t wait to see this with the soundtrack behind it! The N-1 dog fight pace is way ramped up and I loved it. I do have one additional idea for SFX I’d like to get your opinion on…

So in the original TPM (and in your cut) before Anakin’s ship is hit, the following happens:

1.) R2-D2 screams, then the ship is hit
2.) Anakin’s N-1 seems to take 1 (relatively quiet) shot on his right wing
3.) He spins (it’s a good trick) and lands in the hanger

I propose:

1.) Anakin’s ship is hit, THEN R2 screams
2.) Make the shot that hits the wing slightly louder as it must’ve done decent damage to make him spin out, crash land, and eventually shut down
3.) Add cockpit error alarms/warnings right after the blaster hit (I might’ve mixed that to quiet), and change the alarm type when he starts to level it out in the hanger
4.) Once he starts flying through the hanger, after the first person view in the cockpit, it cuts to R2 and then play a sound effect of him slightly fixing the ship

I feel like doing those things helps match the intensity of the dogfight.

I’m by no means an editor, this is a mock-up of what it might sound like. I couldn’t find N-1 cockpit sound effects online, so I just put in some alarms I thought might fit. You could always change those to a different sound effects, but again this is just to give you an idea.

Another happy landing

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O00ll00O said:

I propose:

1.) Anakin’s ship is hit, THEN R2 screams
2.) Make the shot that hits the wing slightly louder as it must’ve done decent damage to make him spin out, crash land, and eventually shut down
3.) Add cockpit error alarms/warnings right after the blaster hit
4.) Once he starts flying through the hanger, after the first person view in the cockpit, it cuts to R2 and then play a sound effect of him slightly fixing the ship

I love that idea! It would be very easy to implement; O00ll00O would you mind if I borrow your idea for my own edit?

My edits:
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/fanedit-search/tag/faneditorname/phase3/

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With regards to the N-1 starfighter getting shot, the footage on the DVD documentary is of very low quality, so it didn’t upscale very well.
Bobson Dugnutt informed me that there was a higher-quality behind-the-scenes shot on the Blu-ray bonus disc. I will upscale this shot and create a new composition, so there will finally be a higher-quality version of this deleted scene.

My edits:
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/fanedit-search/tag/faneditorname/phase3/

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Phase3 said:

I love that idea! It would be very easy to implement; O00ll00O would you mind if I borrow your idea for my own edit?

Of course, that’d be great! You can if you want, but I don’t recommend using my exact video due to poor quality. It’s ripped from Joys youtube video and then it was compressed even more for google drive. But I’d love to see/hear your version of how you do it and think it’d be cool if you posted it here or PM me if it’s not a change Joy cares about. And I feel like there’s gotta be better SFX to use for it, but if you want the sounds I used, I can send them to you.

Awesome work again on the deleted scene footage by the way! It’s fun seeing it in Joys edit 😃 A lot of people think up-scaling is just dropping a file in and hitting “upscale”, but I know it’s a ton of work tweaking things to get it right and appreciate it!

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O00ll00O said:

Of course, that’d be great!

For my edit, I already have the TPM Blu-ray transferred, plus I have the SFX-only track along with separate music tracks for the film, so it will be very easy to rearrange that scene!

Awesome work again on the deleted scene footage by the way! It’s fun seeing it in Joys edit 😃 A lot of people think up-scaling is just dropping a file in and hitting “upscale”, but I know it’s a ton of work tweaking things to get it right and appreciate it!

Thanks for your kind words! Haha I wish it was as simple as just clicking one button to upscale a video! 😄
There’s a huge amount of testing and tweaking settings in order to get a good upscale.

My edits:
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/fanedit-search/tag/faneditorname/phase3/

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Phase3 said:

With regards to the N-1 starfighter getting shot, the footage on the DVD documentary is of very low quality, so it didn’t upscale very well.
Bobson Dugnutt informed me that there was a higher-quality behind-the-scenes shot on the Blu-ray bonus disc. I will upscale this shot and create a new composition, so there will finally be a higher-quality version of this deleted scene.

YES YES YES YES!!!

Are the other cut fighter shots on that same reel?

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Phase3 said:

With regards to the N-1 starfighter getting shot, the footage on the DVD documentary is of very low quality, so it didn’t upscale very well.
Bobson Dugnutt informed me that there was a higher-quality behind-the-scenes shot on the Blu-ray bonus disc. I will upscale this shot and create a new composition, so there will finally be a higher-quality version of this deleted scene.

YES YES YES YES!!!

Are the other cut fighter shots on that same reel?

Enjoy the Edit! - https://www.youtube.com/@JoyofEditing

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O00ll00O said:

Love love loved this video Joy!! It’s wild how good you are at duel & chase scenes! The SFX were perfect, I didn’t notice anything out of place. I can’t wait to see this with the soundtrack behind it! The N-1 dog fight pace is way ramped up and I loved it. I do have one additional idea for SFX I’d like to get your opinion on…

So in the original TPM (and in your cut) before Anakin’s ship is hit, the following happens:

1.) R2-D2 screams, then the ship is hit
2.) Anakin’s N-1 seems to take 1 (relatively quiet) shot on his right wing
3.) He spins (it’s a good trick) and lands in the hanger

I propose:

1.) Anakin’s ship is hit, THEN R2 screams
2.) Make the shot that hits the wing slightly louder as it must’ve done decent damage to make him spin out, crash land, and eventually shut down
3.) Add cockpit error alarms/warnings right after the blaster hit (I might’ve mixed that to quiet), and change the alarm type when he starts to level it out in the hanger
4.) Once he starts flying through the hanger, after the first person view in the cockpit, it cuts to R2 and then play a sound effect of him slightly fixing the ship

I feel like doing those things helps match the intensity of the dogfight.

I’m by no means an editor, this is a mock-up of what it might sound like. I couldn’t find N-1 cockpit sound effects online, so I just put in some alarms I thought might fit. You could always change those to a different sound effects, but again this is just to give you an idea.

Another happy landing

K. I LOVE what you did on the Artoo scream, that timing change is a major improvement in my book, and I’ll definitely take a look at reworking that when I do another pass on the sequence.

As for the other adding SFX, I think that’s a great idea, but I personally wouldn’t bother with adding them, because you won’t really be able to hear them once the music is added in.

GREAT WORK!

Enjoy the Edit! - https://www.youtube.com/@JoyofEditing

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NotTheDri0ds said:

JoyOfEditing said:

New Video: https://youtu.be/xMP2m-SwhD4?si=0CEaNkKMOB-T8hKe

It’s a WIP of five minutes from the End Battle from Phantom Menace. A big thank you to Phase3 for his help with the clean SFX 5.1 track, and all of the cut shots he’s been restoring (seven of which feature in this clip). Lemme know what y’all think, especially concerning the SFX on the new shots. I had to build the soundtrack from scratch on those.

Major Bonus Points if anyone can find the one shot that has a new visual effect composited in.

Enjoy the Edit!

-JoE

Looking good! I know it’s temp but the lack of music gives it a vibe lol. I love all the extended footage

As for my guess for the new element: The fire on the Naboo fighter around the 2:25 mark? If not that maybe more of the shot, doesn’t look familiar but also doesn’t have the same upscaled quality the other added footage does lol.

Another thought is maybe a lightsaber effect somewhere in the extended footage I missed, otherwise no clue lol.

Honestly speaking of VFX edits pertaining to lightsabers that one close up of Obi-Wan always bothers me because the lightsaber is matted terribly and looks almost see through.

Haha! The SFX track IS a vibe! I’ve really been enjoying working with it, because it allows you to do so many shot combos that are impossible if you have to take the original music into account.

I have to give a huge shout out to Phase3 for all of his work on building that 5.1 SFX track. It’s beautiful! I’ve also really enjoyed mixing the new SFX for the cut shots he’s been restoring. I used to do a lot of SFX work in previous jobs, but it has been a quite a while since I put that much effort into a soundtrack (I think one of the new fighter shots alone has 27 SFX tracks).

For Obi’s Saber, I’m aware that there are some issues with saber work in the Phantom Menace, however some of the problems are simply from the HDR master which under clocks the whites. Once I color grade the whole sequence I can see which sabers, if any, need to be fixed.

The shot with added VFX is the wide shot of the Droid Control Ship after the N-1s fire torpedoes at the Bridge Deflector Dish. That shot was originally a one-off cutaway during the Gungan Battle that directly preceded the “Activate the Droids” shot. I repurposed it as a “swing shot” to get us from the bombing run to Anakin’s run in with the swarm of Vulture Droids. I timed the last popping blast that hits near the rising N-1 to match a flash in Anakin’s cockpit to link those two sequences, but I couldn’t link it on the front end, because the GINORMOUS explosion from the end of the bombing run is absent from the wide shot. SO! I added a matching explosion on the wide shot and roto-ed the N-1 that flies in from of it frame-by-frame.

The new blast is at 2:11 if you want to check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMP2m-SwhD4

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JoyOfEditing said:

The shot with added VFX is the wide shot of the Droid Control Ship after the N-1s fire torpedoes at the Bridge Deflector Dish. That shot was originally a one-off cutaway during the Gungan Battle that directly preceded the “Activate the Droids” shot. I repurposed it as a “swing shot” to get us from the bombing run to Anakin’s run in with the swarm of Vulture Droids. I timed the last popping blast that hits near the rising N-1 to match a flash in Anakin’s cockpit to link those two sequences, but I couldn’t link it on the front end, because the GINORMOUS explosion from the end of the bombing run is absent from the wide shot. SO! I added a matching explosion on the wide shot and roto-ed the N-1 that flies in from of it frame-by-frame.

The new blast is at 2:11 if you want to check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMP2m-SwhD4

omg I did not notice at all lol, I gotta get a better eye next time