Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Nothing Cut!) [Season Two in progress with NFBisms] — Page 6

Amazing! Do you mind if I host those alongside the movies? Crediting you, of course!

Would love to watch. Where can I get links?

Via PM ☺️

Work on season two begins. Once again I’m working with NFBisms, who frankly is doing all the actual work so deserves all the credit here - really this season I’m his compiler and distributor.

We’re needing names for the first two arcs, so are open to suggestions. Ideally it’s a single word that’s nice and punchy. I was thinking ‘Connections’ for arc one (wedding, Syril family drama, Cass meeting rebels, Imperials seeking Ghorman, Ferrix folk on the grain planet), though that’s not super punchy. Perhaps Bindings?

Some more ideas for Movie 5, attempting to be consistent to the one word titling structure.
Maybe still not super punchy, though. And maybe real stretches lol.

‘Home’

• “You’re coming home to yourself.”
• Chandrila - Mon Mothma’s home planet
• Cass refers to Bix, Brasso, and Wilmon as “home”
• Eedy visits Syril and Dedra’s home
• Yavin eventually becomes rebel home base

‘Compromise[s]’

• The planned drop to Porko has been “compromised”, as has the Ferrix crew’s status on Mina-Rau
• Thematic to Mon’s plotline; the wedding itself is already a deal with the devil, but now she must also compromise her ideals and allow Tay to be killed.
• Thematic and somewhat ironic to the Maya Pei brigade plotline
• Dedra proposes a compromise to Eedy
• Could be with/without the plural form

‘Conference’

• The imperial conference on what to do about Ghorman
• A wedding is a conference, kinda
• The Maya Pei brigade are having a conference, kinda
• Dedra meeting Eedy, kinda

‘Divergence’

• Parallels movie 1’s title (Convergence)
• Describes how things are coming apart: Tay, rebel infighting, Ferrix crew’s cover on Mina-Rau, etc.
• idk

Haven’t come up with any for the second arc / Movie 6 just yet

For anyone curious, of the work we’ve done so far, cutting Movie 5 wasn’t just a matter of melding the episode tops and bottoms. That would have made pretty inelegant time jumps in Cassian’s subplot, so I needed to split up the progression, shuffling the first few scenes of episodes 2 / 3 to accommodate the flow.

Ooooh, I like both Compromise and Divergence…

Big fan of Divergence for Movie 5 personally!

My suggestions:

6 - Assessment/Determination/Commitment (any one of these)
Cassian and Syril both assess/determine the value of the Ghorman front for their own respective organizations’ goals, Wilmon’s determination is tested by Saw, Davo Sculdun assessed his collection which requires Luthen and Kleya to infiltrate his party, testing Lonnie’s determination

7 - Genocide
Perhaps the most important single word uttered in the arc (or alternatively if that’s too on-the-nose, something like Collapse/Catastrophe/Undoing/Massacre)

8 - Messenger
The core of this arc is about Luthen’s message making its way to Yavin 4, but on top of that Kleya sends out a desperate message which Cassian responds to; Most importantly, Cassian completes his journey by the end of this arc, on his way to becoming the Messenger the Force Healer foresaw him to be.

9 - Stardust 😉

What an incredible series. I just watched the full second half, followed immediately by Rogue One. Excellent to the last.

The plan:

• Season two is an easy fix. Some extremely light restructuring at the break points will be all that is sufficient. The only thing I thought might be slightly tricky is I think between episodes 8 and 9, which both had Cassian at his Ghorman plaza window but with slightly different tones, and between episodes 11 and 12, which both featured the assault on the safe house but also a lowering of tonal energy in the episode break. But I’m sure there’s an answer.
• I’ll put a bit more work into Rogue One. I’d like to use NFBism’s idea of Rogue One’s music over the most Andor-compliant version of the movie. That’ll probably be Hal’s version (no Bor Gullet, yes most franchise links) plus the Rings of Kafrene, with NFB’s Andor music, potentially with further polish and new music from Andor season two, depending on how much he’s up for that.
• I think it’s probably not sacrilege to make small changes to Rogue One, unlike how it would have been for Andor. I might take this just a little further, and make a few more tweaks to keep Rogue One as movie #9 of Andor Omnibus. One of these would be slightly making Jyn less of the main character. This would be extremely light touch, but I’m thinking of scenes where Jyn arrives on Andor and kind of immediately becomes the Rogue One leader - I don’t think Cassian should say “I volunteer” when he’s comfortable just outright disobeying rebel command and leading a team. I really don’t want to take anything away from Jyn’s character here - I really enjoyed how she actually comes off as a bit overzealous and undercautious compared to Andor’s more cautious combatants, which can now be justified as her being trained by Saw - but I just want to keep the tone a little more consistent and respect as much as possible of Andor’s new characterisation from the Andor show.
• I might also release two additional versions of two of my movies, for age appropriateness in different directions. The first, for adults, would be the “fuck the empire” version of the last movie of season one. The second, for children and those for whom it would be a step too far, is a version of the first movie of season two which removes any references to the attempted assault on Bix. I don’t want to deny the horrors or reality of sexual assault or its genuine association with authoritarian regimes, but I can understand people not wanting to have to face that in their Star Wars and would like to give them the option.

ildiem, I like your suggestions, thanks! Messenger is great. Genocide is… maybe too spoilery to be a title? Perhaps ‘Flashpoint’?

I think I’ll most likely call Rogue One simply “Andor - S03E01 - Rogue One”, and name the project “Rogue One: The Andor Movie Omnibus Finale”, for the clearest possible communication of wot it iz.

EddieDean said:

Genocide is… maybe too spoilery to be a title? Perhaps ‘Flashpoint’?

Yeah, upon reflection it’s very much on-the-nose. Flashpoint works great imo, I just have to set aside my DC/Arrowverse brainrot when I hear the word lol

Maybe “Insurrection” as the title of the episode 7? And maybe “Shatterpoint” for #6?

Plus I also think that Divergence and Messanger would work great for #5 and #8 ☺️

I also wonder if it’s sacrilege or not to merge some of Andor and Rogue One? I think it would likely put people off, because it’d make this edit only compatible with itself, and I don’t think these would necessarily add value, but still, I’ll put it here for consideration.

I’m thinking around areas like:

• Introducing Krennic/Jyn earlier. There might be a place where the Rogue One opening scenes of Krennic hiring Galen, and Jyn fleeing until her discovery by Saw Gerrera, could be placed as a flashback bridged by present day Krennic and Saw scenes. That’d leave the flashback of Jyn as a child on Coruscant in her home with Galen and Krennic to work as the dream-flashback in Rogue One to remind us that this is the same character, and bring us back to the present. But likely, this idea wouldn’t work as it’d leave us multiple movies before returning to Jyn.
• Introducing Bodhi just a little earlier. Perhaps in the final arc of Andor, when we’re talking about Saw definitely being on Jedha, having Bodhi captured by Saw’s group, and then interrogated by Saw, in that episode. But again, probably not a value add.
• Shifting the shot of Bix and baby Andor to the very end of Rogue One, just pre-credits, as that final spark of continued hope.
• Maybe a couple of other scenes from the Andor finale into Rogue One, the ones that lead into the Tivix plotline.

…but I’m not super excited about any of these ideas, as I say, they’re just here to be considered.

EddieDean said:

I also wonder if it’s sacrilege or not to merge some of Andor and Rogue One? I think it would likely put people off, because it’d make this edit only compatible with itself, and I don’t think these would necessarily add value, but still, I’ll put it here for consideration.

I’m thinking around areas like:

• Introducing Krennic/Jyn earlier. There might be a place where the Rogue One opening scenes of Krennic hiring Galen, and Jyn fleeing until her discovery by Saw Gerrera, could be placed as a flashback bridged by present day Krennic and Saw scenes. That’d leave the flashback of Jyn as a child on Coruscant in her home with Galen and Krennic to work as the dream-flashback in Rogue One to remind us that this is the same character, and bring us back to the present. But likely, this idea wouldn’t work as it’d leave us multiple movies before returning to Jyn.
• Introducing Bodhi just a little earlier. Perhaps in the final arc of Andor, when we’re talking about Saw definitely being on Jedha, having Bodhi captured by Saw’s group, and then interrogated by Saw, in that episode. But again, probably not a value add.
• Shifting the shot of Bix and baby Andor to the very end of Rogue One, just pre-credits, as that final spark of continued hope.
• Maybe a couple of other scenes from the Andor finale into Rogue One, the ones that lead into the Tivix plotline.

…but I’m not super excited about any of these ideas, as I say, they’re just here to be considered.

I’m personally not the fan of these ideas, as I love RO as it is ☺️

Faelin said:

EddieDean said:

• I might also release two additional versions of two of my movies, for age appropriateness in different directions. The first, for adults, would be the “fuck the empire” version of the last movie of season one. The second, for children and those for whom it would be a step too far, is a version of the first movie of season two which removes any references to the attempted assault on Bix. I don’t want to deny the horrors or reality of sexual assault or its genuine association with authoritarian regimes, but I can understand people not wanting to have to face that in their Star Wars and would like to give them the option.

I like the idea of a version that removes the SA related scenes, but not as a children’s edit, but as an edit that is accessible to people who might find such content to be distressing.
An actual “children’s” edit might be something that makes Andor flow in with Rebels more closely in tone and style, perhaps revoicing mon mothma’s speech to be that as seen in rebels.

This latter idea might be, however something better suited for a different project.

Agreed in principle- Andor’s not ideal for kids either way. Definitely the primary audience would be adults wanting to avoid potentially uncomfortable content. That said, my daughter’s nine, and I reckon she could just about enjoy Andor, but I definitely wouldn’t want that scene in for her.

And yeah, changing Andor to suit kids completely is a far different project, and would probably cut a load, which isn’t really what I’m trying to achieve.