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Farscape Puppetry use in the Star Wars PT
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20-Dec-2005, 3:40 PM
For the sake of argument, if they did go with Farscape like puppetry, wouldn't you have gotten the same critic from the public that they all look like Muppets or Men-In-Suits? The first few years of Farscape got that comment before people just stopped paying attention to that aspect of the show.

To convert some of the cgi to puppetry you have to make some sacrifices, what would they have been? Choose a scene.

Personally i don't think George did get as far as his ideas wanted to go. He held back on Jar-Jar. Looking back, i'm conjecturing that if George had gotten his way to make Jar-Jar an inflatable being as was originally speculated then maybe the Jar-Jar story arc wouldn't have been forgotten after TPM. Which could have added to the overall story. The pieces we're there to make the RotS Jar-Jar have a possible emotional final moment. but who knows.

But back to Farscape, Cable-X1, get back to this thread as you watch the show progress, there are various make-up changes to D'Argo, for instance, between some of the early seasons, and then there's all the attached head aliens towards the end of the series. We'll see if you don't start formulating some choice words about the work as you get more familiar with them.

George needed the flexibility of CGI to get these movies to where they ended up because he didn't have the story structure to build upon. He was modifing these stories right up to the end. With all the preproduction which went into these movies, they all suffered from a lack of cohesive substance. Lucas seemed to have a few choice moments well thought out but everything else, to me, was a creative impulse without reflection made at a deadline. Now maybe if the reality drawbacks of certain amounts of time put aside to create the puppets, get the puppet actors to work effectively with the actors on set, could have provided some grounding which could have forced the story into something more cohesive and resonant, but that's grand speculation. Better, could have been, but not definite. More puppets could have made these movies more RotJ-like...

What are the major scenes where individuals interact with digitally created life which you all think would have worked better without cgi.

To give cgi a good name, i don't think the Watto stuff could have been done better any other way. Rygel's a great character but there's something about Watto, which i wouldn't want changed.