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What I really wonder is if Lucas will try to put a bunch of CG in this film, or if he intends to make it in the style of the other three. I know he used CG often in the Young Indy Chronicles, but IMO, CG wopuld not work well at all for an Indy film.
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I am SUCH an Indy fan and SOOOOO afraid of this film. Hopefully Spielberg reins GL in as much as possible if the film has to be made in the first place.
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well since its both Spielberg and Lucas' film im sure they'll come to some sort of mutual understanding..

im sure we're not gonna see Nazi Jar Jars running around or anything.. but im sure they may use it instead of using matt paintings..
im starting to doubt we'll ever see this though
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As far as i've read, Indy will be about the same age Ford is now. Something about fighting communists instead of nazi's (although this could just be a rumor). Not to mention, the fact that Ford has affected a couple of real life rescues even though he is "old". It's not totally unbelievable, it will just have to be done more carefully.

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Not ever seeing this come to light is probably a good thing. I'm more than content with the 3 films as they are, without a new movie to ruin the classics. I wish filmmakers would just LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE.
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It seems to me that they understand the expectations of everyone, which is why they keep refusing scripts until Lucas and Spieldberg and Ford are all three happy. I mean, you've got Jeff Nathanson, writing the script, Lucas, with his great story ideas, Spielberg to keep Lucas calm and keep the film of a good quality, and Ford, who knows his character very well. Those four combined should make for a great script. If they all do their work well and agree on a good script, I think it should do fine. And I know Lucas will insist on at least some CG, but I'm sure Spielberg will keep it to a minimum.

And what's this shit people keep saying about Ford being too old?!? Harrison Ford is NOT too old. I just don't get these morons who expect every single actor to look young and laugh at the idea of an older person in a role. Do you know what Ford said when someone asked him what he would do if Lucas and Spielberg replaced him as Indy? He said, half joking "First off, I won't be replaced as Indy. But if they did, first I'd tell them to go fuck themselves, then I would kill them."
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Here we go again. Let the franchise rest in peace.

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Here we go again. Let the franchise rest in peace.


Aye. THIS is the movie that should be stopped. Actually, it's one of many movies that should be stopped.
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I don't know though. It has been in the planning stages for years. I have a really positive feeling about this one.
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
It seems to me that they understand the expectations of everyone, which is why they keep refusing scripts until Lucas and Spieldberg and Ford are all three happy. I mean, you've got Jeff Nathanson, writing the script, Lucas, with his great story ideas, Spielberg to keep Lucas calm and keep the film of a good quality, and Ford, who knows his character very well. Those four combined should make for a great script. If they all do their work well and agree on a good script, I think it should do fine. And I know Lucas will insist on at least some CG, but I'm sure Spielberg will keep it to a minimum.

And what's this shit people keep saying about Ford being too old?!? Harrison Ford is NOT too old. I just don't get these morons who expect every single actor to look young and laugh at the idea of an older person in a role. Do you know what Ford said when someone asked him what he would do if Lucas and Spielberg replaced him as Indy? He said, half joking "First off, I won't be replaced as Indy. But if they did, first I'd tell them to go fuck themselves, then I would kill them."



It's not that Harrison is too old, it's just that he's too old to play Indy. He's 63 years old, for cryin' out loud! I have a feeling this movie could be the sequel to "Bubba Ho-tep".


Plus, a lot of you guys seem to be acting like Spielberg will keep Lucas's crappy writing in check. Spielberg hasn't exactly had a great resume these last few years, either. "A.I", "The Terminal", "War of the Worlds"......merely OK. I fell asleep during "Minority Report".

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Originally posted by: Nanner Split

It's not that Harrison is too old, it's just that he's too old to play Indy. He's 63 years old, for cryin' out loud! I have a feeling this movie could be the sequel to "Bubba Ho-tep".


Well, if George Hall can play Indy at 93, then I believe Harrison Ford can at 63.
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But did George Hall have to fight Nazis, swing across chasms on his whip, and shoot tall Arabs with swords?

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But, Spielberg and Lucas have said that "the film will fit his age," or something along the lines of that. So, I would suspect he will do some action, but not nearly the amount as seen in the previous three films.
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Well, then, see my earlier comment about it being a sequel to "Bubba Ho-tep".

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Still, what is so wrong with a films starring someone of his age playing an older character? Aging is a natural part of life (pun intended). We would assume that Indy would have gotten older, and we know that he does, as seen in the Young Indy Chronicles, where we see a 93 year old jones, and once even saw Ford playing a fifty year old Jones in the series. The grail apparently didn't have the "eternal life" effect on him.
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There is an older thread on this topic that included an article from AICN which was written at a time when the script was finished and connery, ford and spielberg (being very happy with it) were "ready to go". Alas, Lucas had put in his lastminute veto and took over rewriting the script until HE is satisfied with it - needless to say the original author threw the towel at that point and the preparations for beginning the project came to a screeching halt.

Searching through the AICN article database to find the article (posting all indy4 related AICN links I'll find in the process):

INDIANA JONES and a total lack of Nazis will be coming to a theater someday!


Found another article on the same topic [source: spielbergfilms.com]. Here's an excerpt:
“By all accounts of those who have worked with [Lucas], he isn’t one to multitask when he’s making a film. That left Spielberg and Darabont to work out the script. Imagine Darabont’s joy when Spielberg pronounced that he liked Darabont’s draft, except for some quibbles with the third act. Darabont reworked the screenplay, and a few weeks later—last fall—Paramount was told that Spielberg would shoot the picture in July 2004.”

So according to the article, the script was Darabont and Spielberg’s baby, unlike the previous three Indiana Jones films (in which Lucas, Spielberg and the screenwriters all toiled together). It’s been reported numerous times that Lucas devised the story for the new film, yet the Esquire article wraps up by stating that “the official story is that the project is not dead and that Lucas will come up with a storyline himself.”

I’m not sure if this is stating that Lucas didn’t conceive the screen story for Darabont’s drafts at all and he will be crafting a new concept himself from the ground up or if this means Lucas will be drafting a brand new script himself (God help us). Lucas’ “storylines” for the Indy films (i.e.-stories for the films, but not the actual scripts) have been great, but his work as a screenwriter, as history has proven, is not even a shadow of Darabont’s talents.

Either way, Esquire’s article is unclear whether Lucas plans on crafting a new story or drafting a new script personally, but the article does end with a couple of notes of doom.

According to someone allegedly close to Spielberg within the DreamWorks fold, Spielberg won’t be too heartbroken if the film doesn’t ever come together (Spielberg has promised in the press that it will happen still), and as Esquire tells it (for what it's worth) “many in Hollywood are skeptical that it will ever happen.”

“[Spielberg] liked the idea of it, but I don’t think he was in love with doing it,” the fellow “DreamWorker” told Esquire.

If true, this is never a great way for Spielberg to head into a movie and his filmography, the Indiana Jones series and Indiana Jones fans deserve more than that. Spielberg has throughout his career been infatuated with many a concept. We’ve all seen how many scripts he courts but never commits to, wisely in the end. When Spielberg isn’t completely in love with working on a film, he stumbles with works like HOOK and THE LOST WORLD (which he “always, sort of wanted to do”—a very non-committal reason to shoot the film from Spielberg himself).
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
But, Spielberg and Lucas have said that "the film will fit his age," or something along the lines of that. So, I would suspect he will do some action, but not nearly the amount as seen in the previous three films.
which says to me, lots of 'I'm too old for this shit' gags. Yawn. And if Lucas is writing, it will probably be indy versus some trade federation who have illegally blocked some trade routes, and Indy will go through the movie burping and farting beacuse of the heart pills his doctor has given him. Rubbish.

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
which says to me, lots of 'I'm too old for this shit' gags. Yawn.


Ah, you mean like Obi-Wan in ANH? I didn't mind seeing an old Obi-Wan in ANH myself.
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Ford did make a convincing older Indy when he played the character in the Young Indy series.

The episode was called Mystery Of the Blues and had Ford in the bookend parts at the beginning and end of the show. Ford had a rather bushy beard with some grey and he looked totally convincing and still had the Indy magic.

But that was 1993. That's 12 going on 13 years ago.

I'm against this movie for the same reasons TR47 said.....leave well enough alone. The motivations behind this movie are wrong....Ford has been the biggest lobbiest for it and his career is in the shitter. That's why he wants to do it....he thinks it will revive his career. I fear that it will just produce an Indy film that isn't on par with the original 3.

It's clear that Lucas and Spielberg are in different places in their lives. Spielberg doesn't make these kinds of movies anymore. He makes stuff like Munich and Amistad. The closest thing he's made to an Indy film is Minority Report and I thought that movie wasn't that great. Lucas, on the other hand, is just fucking insane and shouldn't be allowed near any of his film franchises ever again. See the SW prequels for proof of that.

Let it be, boys.....just let go and go ruin something else.
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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
I fear that it will just produce an Indy film that isn't on par with the original 3.


Why does everyone seem to think that a film has to be on par with others in order to be considered enjoyable. Myself, I try to enjoy something for what IT is, rather than trying to compare it with the series it is part of.
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Because a crappy sequel devalues the rest of the franchise, especially in the eyes of the unfortunates who see the shitfest before seeing the good stuff. For example, if I had managed to see "Jaws: The Revenge" before seeing the rest of the big-ass killer shark movies, I probably wouldn't have bothered with the original (which is probably one of my ten favorite movies) for several more years, based purely on the foul taste that movie left in my mouth.
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Why would anyone go see a sequel before the original in the first place?
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As if things weren't bad enough, I hear there's a Back to the Future Part 4 in the works. God damn you, Hollywood!
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Why would anyone go see a sequel before the original in the first place? or a prequel, for that matter....
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As if things weren't bad enough, I hear there's a Back to the Future Part 4 in the works. God damn you, Hollywood!
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if BTTF4 Happens I will kill myself in protest. Hopefully hollywood will stop making crap movies as a result, and I will go down in history as a martyr - everybody's happy (except hollywood, who will be forced to come up with something original).



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Myself, I try to enjoy something for what IT is, rather than trying to compare it with the series it is part of.


If it's part of a series, it is inevitable that it will draw comparisons. And one bad movie in a series can leave a bad taste in people's mouths, as we've seen with many after TPM.

The thing is.....everyone wants to see another great Indy flick, but they don't want it to suck. After observing the recent work by Ford, Lucas and Spielberg, people don't think it will be great. There are other reasons too, too much time has past, Ford is older and may not be up to the task, the fact that's been in development hell for years, Ford's motivation for wanting to do one, etc.

There wasn't any of these factors back when the original three were made, so naturally many of us are skeptical. It's not that we don't want another one, Adam....we just want a great one and if we can't get a great one, we'd rather not have one.

Also, to many of us, Indiana Jones was as big of a deal as Star Wars back in the day. I saw all three in the theaters and they rocked it hard, man!!!