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JoyOfEditing said:

Rors said:

JoyOfEditing said:

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JoyOfEditing said:

Aloha!

My work schedule finally slowed down a bit, so I’ll be back to working on proper editing breakdowns later today, but in the meantime here is one of my favorite recut scenes from Attack of the Clones: https://youtu.be/ZaOsg-B0iqg

Enjoy the Edit!

-JoE

Not from my taste, but everything you’ve been working has been incredible.

Cheers Buddy! What’s been your favorite scene so far?

I love the way you edited Obi-Wan and Anakin vs Dooku, it reminds me of “Dune: Part Two”. By the way, I also love the Droid Factory scene, even though, I wish you kept the scene where Obi-Wan talks with Dooku.
I will use some of your ideas to my own cut(When I have time).
And I agree with you, AOTC is great if it’s reedited.

Early on when I was breaking down which scenes I was gonna keep and which scenes I was gonna toss for Attack of the Clones, I took a long look at the Obi-Wan and Count Dooku scene, but just couldn’t find a way to use it, based on the way I reworked AotC as a whole. If you reinsert the Padme scene where she addresses the senate, the natural bookend to that scene is the other deleted scene where she’s interrogated by Dooku. My two cents is that the Padme Addresses the Senate Scene is ESSENTIAL to the plot of Attack of the Clones. It improves the sense of so many other sequences. In order to get the Obi-Wan and Count Dooku scene to work, you’d need an entirely different version of AotC to the one we got (and a totally different RotS). I think I’m with you, that that theoretical version of AotC would probably be a lot better, but at the end of the day, I’ve gotta work with the footage George gave us.

Yeah, sad that George only fixed this stuff about Dooku in The Clone Wars series.

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Yo! Quick Update:

I’m working on the script for Episode 4.2 of the Editing Show. I’m aiming for a STAR WARS day release, so we’ll see how that goes.

In the meantime, in honor of Revenge of the Sith’s 20th Anniversary, here’s my recut of the ending: https://youtu.be/YAsmcEc7cjI

The falling actions of Episodes I-II and VI-VI range between 2.5 and 5.5 minutes. Revenge of the Sith clocks in at just over 14mins. . . So this recut’s main goal is to align it with the rest of George’s SAGA, as well as to get rid of as many spoilers for the Original Trilogy as possible (The DEATH STAR, Tarkin, Darth Vader’s iconic suit, Leia is Luke’s sister [Padme dies after giving birth to Luke but before giving birth to Leia], Yoda and Ben’s exiles, etc.).

Lemme know what y’all think and enjoy the edit!

-JoE

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The match cut (is that the right term?) between Anakin on the stretcher and Padme on the hearse might be my favorite touch in the whole sequence! You’ve done fantastic work in condensing the falling actions of III.

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JoyOfEditing said:

Aloha!

My work schedule finally slowed down a bit, so I’ll be back to working on proper editing breakdowns later today, but in the meantime here is one of my favorite recut scenes from Attack of the Clones: https://youtu.be/ZaOsg-B0iqg

Enjoy the Edit!

-JoE

Between yourself and what SomethingStarWarsRelated was attempting to do I can see a fun watchable Star Wars peeping out. Be careful with cranking the contrast up too much. Some of the footage is very difficult to see at times. The action cuts are really good. Big plus being the lack of research rubbish changeling effects, even the name sounds stupid

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BedeHistory731 said:

The match cut (is that the right term?) between Anakin on the stretcher and Padme on the hearse might be my favorite touch in the whole sequence! You’ve done fantastic work in condensing the falling actions of III.

Technically it’s a “cut on form” (I only know that because my teacher at film school hammered all of those terms into our heads, haha!). I think I got the idea from seeing somebody else make a similar cut ages and ages ago on YouTube, but I can’t find it anymore. That hearse to hearse transition is so smooth, I can’t believe George didn’t use it in the original cut. Ending on two funerals sums up the tragedy of Revenge of the Sith really well in my opinion.

My favorite touch is the Necklace Transition to the Lars Homestead. I like the idea of Padme’s love for Anakin being symbolically passed on to Luke, since that love is what will bring balance to the Force in Return of the Jedi.

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JoyOfEditing said:

Aloha!

My work schedule finally slowed down a bit, so I’ll be back to working on proper editing breakdowns later today, but in the meantime here is one of my favorite recut scenes from Attack of the Clones: https://youtu.be/ZaOsg-B0iqg

Enjoy the Edit!

-JoE

Between yourself and what SomethingStarWarsRelated was attempting to do I can see a fun watchable Star Wars peeping out. Be careful with cranking the contrast up too much. Some of the footage is very difficult to see at times. The action cuts are really good. Big plus being the lack of research rubbish changeling effects, even the name sounds stupid

Cheers! Yeah, the contrast is set correctly (to my tastes) in the source file, but YouTube’s compression system flattens all of the black information, and I don’t have the patience to develop a custom codec to make it happier (I just upload my custom HQ H.264 codec that I use for final renders). If you ever want to see the uncompressed HQ version of one of the clips, PM me, and I’ll shoot you a link. It still might be darker than you’d like, but I’m going for a dark look overall for compositing/aesthetic reasons (The darks hide effects seems and the contrast increases the perceived speed of the speeders + I’m taking inspiration from the look of the original Blade Runner).

On the changeling thing, I totally agree that it’s a distraction from the main plot. The fact that Zam is a changeling is interesting, I guess? But it has no bearing on either how she tries to kill Padme, or how she tries to escape from the Jedi. Personally, I think it’s WAY funnier if that final (and only in my cut) face shift is actually what a Kamino Saber Dart does to somebody when it hits them. I mean they are cloners after all, so developing a poison that causes instant and lethal genetic mutation is kinda on brand.

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JoyOfEditing said:

HAPPY STAR WARS DAY!!! - Here’s my recut of the Bespin Duel from tESB in the style of the Prequel fights: https://youtu.be/WCWVJhDJyhA

In other news, I finished the script for 4.2 of the Editing Show, so if work doesn’t get to crazy, the next proper episode should drop next week.

Speaking of Episode 4.2, I’ve been working on trying to match the Death Star Scenes with the Imperial “look” from Empire Strikes Back.

Here’s a comparison of happens when you color match the conference room with the Executor’s bridge:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12y0SU2SG173NqzlHLdyP_kH0RYhkycrO?usp=sharing

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I’d kinda prefer the reverse. I think a more stark black look fits the Empire perfectly.

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Color-matching the ESB Imperial scenes to match the stark black look of the ANH Death Star

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Color-matching the ESB Imperial scenes to match the stark black look of the ANH Death Star

I’m probably gonna stick with switching the Death Star to the ESB colors, because then the Imperial look will be consistent across the OT, but now you’ve got me curious to see what aNH’s idiosyncratic colors would make Empire footage look like. . . If I get a chance today, I’ll play around with it and post the result.

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Color-matching the ESB Imperial scenes to match the stark black look of the ANH Death Star

I ended up going with a color grade halfway between aNH and tESB for the final look of the DEATH STAR. It’s about halfway through the video linked above.

Whaddya think?

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I rather like how you’ve implemented the changes, especially cutting from the conference room to the paltry search effort. The only gripe I have is the skeleton suddenly appearing behind the droids in the scene. Would it make sense to incorporate it into the establishing shot?

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BedeHistory731 said:

I rather like how you’ve implemented the changes, especially cutting from the conference room to the paltry search effort. The only gripe I have is the skeleton suddenly appearing behind the droids in the scene. Would it make sense to incorporate it into the establishing shot?

I’m not gonna lie, the thought totally crossed my mind. The two problems I ran into were that I don’t have a good shot of the skeleton from an angle that would make sense to insert it, and the continuity of the unaltered Threepio sequence is itself kinda wonky (So is the scene were the droids split up. . .). If you pay attention the dragon actually does a bit of teleporting shot to shot in the original sequence.

In the end I decided that the skeleton is in on a dune in front of the camera for the whole sequence until it pulls back at the end. The close shot of Threepio is still a bit wonky with this logic, but I didn’t feel like repainting and roto-ing that shot, because the sense on the sequence still gets across to the viewer clearly.

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YouTube would never allow me to post this much copyrighted content, but if any of y’all want to see the full recut covered in the most recent episode, here it is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1esLN36PG8O-2t6KnJrW9WLuoodHb1CCf/view?usp=drive_link

For my money, you can’t really get an idea of the way how well the story flows in this rework without seeing it in full, but y’all will have to be the judge of that. 😉

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How do you compensate for the Force not being explained in any of the Prequels? That’s one of the biggest issues I’ve had with the chronological order. Ep 1 assumes you’ve already seen Ep 4 where it’s actually explained as an “energy field” that binds the galaxy together. The only way I’ve been able to brainstorm a fix is placing it in the opening crawl of Ep 1, which I myself am skeptical of due to not wanting to bombard the audience with too much information.

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How do you compensate for the Force not being explained in any of the Prequels? That’s one of the biggest issues I’ve had with the chronological order. Ep 1 assumes you’ve already seen Ep 4 where it’s actually explained as an “energy field” that binds the galaxy together. The only way I’ve been able to brainstorm a fix is placing it in the opening crawl of Ep 1, which I myself am skeptical of due to not wanting to bombard the audience with too much information.

Man, you’re always coming up with the great questions that are hard to answer, lol!

Here’s the crazy thing: For my money you don’t need to compensate at all, in fact you shouldn’t.

I think George purposefully kept detailed explanations about the Force (Except for Qui-Gon’s midichlorian chat) out of the Prequels on purpose. The reason for this has to do with STAR WARS’ use of a Christian-style narrative structure.

This is a MASSIVE simplification, but this is how STAR WARS’ two trilogies copy the narrative structure of the Old and New Testaments.

Let’s take Moses (OT): He’s an Israelite born into slavery who is adopted by an Egyptian princess, where he abuses his princely power and kills an Egyptian slaver master. He then runs away into the desert and lives as a Shepherd for 40 years, where God reveals himself to him in a Burning Bush. Moses then returns to Egypt and frees his people from slavery, but Moses’ anger (The same uncontrolled anger that led him to kill the Egyptian) gets the best of him, and he is unable to fulfill his destiny and bring the Israelites into the Promised Land.

Now Jesus (NT): He’s born during a great political crises in Roman Palestine, where there have been waves of Jewish rebellions against the Roman Authorities. Caesar has just ordered a worldwide tax to be carried out over the whole Roman World to reassert his power. After Jesus’ Baptism (his calling by God), he goes into the wilderness for 40 days to be tempted by the Satan. When he returns from the desert he preaches the good news of the Kingdom of God (a new way of being human), and sacrifices himself to bring unity between God, man, and creation.

Now STAR WARS (Which mixes elements of the OT/NT): In a time of great political turmoil and taxation, a young boy is born in the desert, but is then adopted into the powerful political/religious order of Jedi Knights. Instead of being trained in the Spiritual Ways of the Force, Anakin is unwittingly pulled into the political machinations of the Jedi and the Sith. He tries to return to the desert to free his mother from slavery, but instead his anger gets the best of him, and he massacres the Tuskens. This same uncontrolled anger leads him down the path to the Dark Side, and he is unable to fulfill his destiny to bring balance to the Force.

After spending 20ish years in the Desert and the Swamp, Obi-Wan and Yoda, who were once more concerned about the politics of the Clone Wars than instructing Anakin in the Mystical Ways of the Force, have reconnected with the Living Force and are now ready to instruct his descendant, Luke, in the way he should go. Because Luke has learned to control his anger and see through the eyes of the Force, he is able to return to Tatooine and free his friends from Slavery, and when the Ewoks take his friends prisoner, he doesn’t see the little Teddy Bears as an enemy to be destroyed, but as future brothers brought together by the Force (that is why such a big deal is made about the Ewoks adopting Luke and Co into the tribe.) Finally, Luke understands that the will of the Force is for him to sacrifice himself to save his Father and the Galaxy. THE END.

In Short - A Biblical cycle tends to go: Political Machinations leading toward destruction, a reconnection with God in the desert, a leader called out of the desert to free God’s people from slavery (physical and spiritual), and then the success or failure of the leader based on their trust and obedience to God. STAR WARS follows that pattern by NOT revealing the Force until the deserts of Episode VI, just like God doesn’t reveal Himself to Moses until the burning bush, or Jesus isn’t revealed to be the Son of God until AFTER his temptation in the desert, with the first section of the Gospels focusing on the Political Turmoil that engulfed his childhood.

That’s just my take. You could easily approach that problem a million other ways, but as the old saying goes, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. 😉

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You said Ep1 would be the new introduction to Tatooine. Can you explain in detail how you’ve accomplished that?

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JoyOfEditing said:

This is all Phase3’s fault. . . He shot me the cut shots from the Naboo Space Battle that he’s restoring, and I decided to see if I could figure out where they went. . . This is the result [music is a temp-track to check pacing and color/sound is WIP]: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1864hKUDsi9-FnuZUda_rxcb_S3fe763I/view?usp=sharing

Maybe just one, “I’m trying to stop”. The one shot I would love someone to add is the Trade Federation fleet approaching And surrounding Naboo at the beginning. But I am on record saying the big issue with The Phantom Menace is it’s not linear enough. The Queen should start out on Coruscant and intend to rescue her people on Naboo with Jedi but get shot down and forced to land on Tattoine en route. Finally getting there at the end. If ANH had the same structure as TPM Luke would have found out the Rebel Base was on Tatooine and have to go back there to blow up the death star.

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JoyOfEditing said:

This is all Phase3’s fault. . . He shot me the cut shots from the Naboo Space Battle that he’s restoring, and I decided to see if I could figure out where they went. . . This is the result [music is a temp-track to check pacing and color/sound is WIP]: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1864hKUDsi9-FnuZUda_rxcb_S3fe763I/view?usp=sharing

Maybe just one, “I’m trying to stop”. The one shot I would love someone to add is the Trade Federation fleet approaching And surrounding Naboo at the beginning. But I am on record saying the big issue with The Phantom Menace is it’s not linear enough. The Queen should start out on Coruscant and intend to rescue her people on Naboo with Jedi but get shot down and forced to land on Tattoine en route. Finally getting there at the end. If ANH had the same structure as TPM Luke would have found out the Rebel Base was on Tatooine and have to go back there to blow up the death star.

I hear ya, but Phantom Menace, isn’t mirroring A New Hope, it’s actually mirroring Jedi which is also a circle (It starts with the Death Star II being built and ends with it being blown up).

As far as the Queen running away from Naboo to seek political help in Coruscant and then returning to Naboo to claim her rights, that sort of thing is common in Medieval/Early Modern History (Charles II is a good example). Since STAR WARS’ genre is a Spiritual Epic in the mode of Medieval Romance, I think it makes a lot of sense for George to use that idea as a story telling system.

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JoyOfEditing said:
It starts with the Death Star II being built and ends with it being blown up.

Huh?

I understand everything else but I’m a little confused here.

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