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Post #162775

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darthpreston
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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Date created
12-Dec-2005, 5:53 PM
Well, I think the ideas we are having for "adding" characters here and there are all amazing ideas. However, I feel we may be letting our imaginations get the better of us. For instance, a scene between dooku , yoda and mace would be amazing at the end of episode II. But how in the hell are we to accomplish this? I mean, we don't have the extra footage of yoda and the gang in the council or anywhere else and where do we get this footage of christopher lee in jedi looking robes standing in the middle of the set with them? I mean, I know that it is possible to do some slight cg tweaking to scenes (ie. removing certain object from a space by painting it out).......but I think we're getting a little too excited writing scenes that are impossible to create. On a similar matter, how do we do the grevious construction scene? If we rely on home-bought computer products for special effects, there's no way it can match to what ILM is doing in the real film. I just feel like we need to stay within the parameters of what the films gave us and what we can borrow from other films (like blade runner for coruscant).

Now, i'm totally with you guys, i'm up for fleshing out whatver stories come in to the board.....and I love EVERYBODYS ideas. I even really love the Maul=Grevious idea, but I also think it is impossible to pull off. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with having Maul and Grevious two different characters in the prequel trilogy. I mean, I just don't feel like everyone has to connect or flow in and out of each prequel. Especially because Ep.2 is 10 years after the ep.1. Like I have said before each movie of the old trilogy introduced new characters to us: Empire had lando, boba fett, bounty hunters, rebel commanders, different ships.... and of course Return of the Jedi had jabba (although mentioned in Ep.5) , general reikan, different imperial officers........granted there are no HUGE characters hopping in and out.

My idea (i'm sure it's not popular) would be to have Grevious reveal himself to be Master Sypho Dias (unresolved mystery of AOTC) and there are plenty of ways to make that a believable sub plot and an interesting one at that. I also like the character and mystique of Darth Maul soo much that I feel if his character need only expanded upon a bit (extra dialouge and re-arranging) it would add the justification to his character. I also hate the idea of him being called Grevious all throughout ep.1, the name Darth maul is just more captivating to me. Lucas once said that the 3 bad guys of the prequels all symbalized what would become darth vader in the end: Maul was aggresive and pure evil, Dooku/tyranus was sensible yet powerful and intimidating, and Grevious of course was a strong warrior built into a half living, half cyborg freak. And to be honest I don't see what is wrong with this analogy at all.

But without having any extra dialouge from sidious (non transmission garble), extra footage of dooku standing around a dark room, or any footage of grevious being constructed or EVEN a closeup of his face as his eyes open.......we don't have any of this footage, and we can't create it out of thin air........I'm just wondering where the conversation is going on these scenes that don't exist. Alright , that's just my opinion for right now, i'm sure i'll add some more later, if you don't mind. By the way, all you guys are BRILLIANT, GENIUS! Just thought i'd let you know, keep up the conversation!