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Yes, it's official: "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" is on my list for one of the best movies of the year.
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Originally posted by: Commander Courage
Yes, it's official: "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" is on my list for one of the best movies of the year.


I'll have to see it then, even though I barely remember the book from all those years ago.
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It's on my list too! It had been nearly a decade since I read the book (although I'm reading it right now), but a lot of the scenes in the movie were just the way I remember picturing them. And from what I can tell, the movie adds a lot more depth to the characters and world. Too bad my local Weekend paper didn't think too highly of it.

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It looks like the first movie of substance he's done since Saving Private Ryan. That's what I'm pinning my hopes on.

I think all but one person who've created a list above said Batman. Not as many ROTS entries. Sadly, this doesn't surprise me, even on a SW board.
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Think about the difference in adrenaline levels b/w the two films. Batman Begins was a dervish of a movie, with fantastic pacing. ROTS had great action, but ground to a crawl in certain moments.

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"Crash" and "Goodnight and Goodluck" are at the top of my list. I have yet to see Potter or Narnia yet.
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I didn't make it to the theaters this year as much as usual, but my faves of 05 were (in no particular order)....

ROTS (no surprise there)
Batman Begins (As close to perfection as a comics movie has come)
Sin City ("That's a nice coat...")

There were a few that I missed out on though which I'd like to see, such as Fantastic Four.

There were others that just didn't measure up. They just seemed to be lacking something, such as War of the Worlds.
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Originally posted by: TheDemonHunter

There were others that just didn't measure up. They just seemed to be lacking something, such as War of the Worlds.


I agree. That one wasn't up to Spielberg's usual quality.
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Just drove an hour to see "Good Night, And Good Luck" last night - amazing. Definitely tops my list this year, with "Crash" coming in second. Those are, however, the *best* movies, not necessarily my *favorite* movies (yes, there's a big difference) - my favorites would have to be "Serenity" at the top, "Batman Begins," "Land of the Dead" ... not necessarily great films, but the ones I'd watch the most. Now for "Syriana" and "King Kong" sometime this week ...
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Crash, Goodnight and Good Luck, Jarhead, and Syriana. Also, War of the Worlds was decent. If The Fountain hadn't been pushed back to 2006, I'm sure it would have been on my list. But at least now I have a movie to look forward to seeing next year!

Both Potter and Narnia are way, way down on my list. They were both pretty cheesy and boring, imo.

I'm still not really sure what I think about ROTS. There were parts I really liked, and other parts I really disliked.

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Also, why does everyone have such a hard-on for Batman Begins? It wasn't anything special. It's right on par with any other LOL EXTREME SUMMER ACTION MOVIE. I guess when you compare it to the other Batman films, it makes it look better by comparison, but really... It wasn't anything AMAZING. Nolan was showing a lot of promise too, after Memento.
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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel

Also, why does everyone have such a hard-on for Batman Begins? It wasn't anything special. It's right on par with any other LOL EXTREME SUMMER ACTION MOVIE. I guess when you compare it to the other Batman films, it makes it look better by comparison, but really... It wasn't anything AMAZING. Nolan was showing a lot of promise too, after Memento.


Did you and I watch the same move, Mareel?

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel

Also, why does everyone have such a hard-on for Batman Begins? It wasn't anything special. It's right on par with any other LOL EXTREME SUMMER ACTION MOVIE. I guess when you compare it to the other Batman films, it makes it look better by comparison, but really... It wasn't anything AMAZING. Nolan was showing a lot of promise too, after Memento.


Did you and I watch the same move, Mareel?


Yeah, the movie where he LOL HANGS THE MOB BOSS UP AND IT CREATES THE BATLIGHT XD and he goes through so much pain in life ;_; i guess that sometimes the road of life can be pretty bumpy that must be why he doesn't get the girl in the end ;_;! his parents were murdered how can he overcome such great pains ;_;? and his trainer turns out to be a bad guy, and even though he thought he died he's actually alive? O_O!!!! NO WAY!!!! I TOTALLY THOUGHT THAT HE DIED IN THAT HUGE, FANCY, HIGH BUDGET EXPLOSION! this is good character development because it shows how he can NEVER TRUST ANYONE, because you never know who might be the bad guy ¬_¬! except of course his good ol' butler Alfred he can always trust that old gent ^_^! its a good thing morgan freeman is giving him all these NEAT TOYS XDD!! if he didn't have that SUPER COOL BATMOBILE, he wouldn't have been able to escape the police in that amazing CAR CHASE SCENE! NOTE: BATMOBILE TOYS ARE ON SALE NOW!!! WATCH OUT FOR THE DELUX PLAY SET, JUST IN TIME FOR THE HOLIDAYS! nolan put so much blood and sweat into this movie, he couldn't of possibly of just made it so that he could get a nice big pay check!! he cares to much about the art form to do something silly like that XD!! and the way the actors potrayed the characters it was almost like they were real people I JUST GFELT SO BAD EVERY TIME SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO THEM WHILE I WAS EATING MY POPCORN AND DRINKING MY SODA THIS MOVIE MADE ME CRY CAN'T YOU SEE IT HAS CHANGED MY LIFE?!?!?!

btw i bet if bruce hadn't gone through so much training in order to find his inner self he might not ever have even become batman! it's a good thing he has come to terms with the great ordeals of life! so inspirational! and that scarecrow guy sure was SCARY! he used drugs to make people see freaky things :x! i just hope that he's able to defeat the JOKER X_X! i hope that Gordon is there to watch his back again!! how will he make it out of the next pickle?! STAY TUNED FOR ANOTHER EXCITING EPISODE OF MEDIOCRE ACTION BLOCKBUSTER!!!

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF!!

i bet that these new movies will be so AMAZING i can't way to see what neat SPECIAL EFFECTS THEY USE! i am positive that each movie they make will get BETTER AND BETTER! XD

wait, in the 90s, didn't they make several batman movies? and didn't everyone really love them when they came out, but then years later looked back and saw how terrible they all were? I AM SURE THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN BECAUSE WE ARE LIVING IN A POST 9/11 WORLD!!! ALL MOVIES WILL BE SO AMAZING GOD BLESS AMERICA I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT SUMMER! XD XD XD XD XD XDXDDCxxxxxxxxxx

edit: i forgot I LOVE ACTION I LOVE EXPLOSIONS BANG BOOM BOOOOM BOOM AND CARS ARE SO COOL I WANT TO BE A NINJA I CAN USE A NINJA SWORD SHWING, SHWING!!!! POW POW KA-BLAM!!
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Er... the things you're nitpicking (and the most certainly are nitpicks) are things about Batman.

[quote]Yeah, the movie where he LOL HANGS THE MOB BOSS UP AND IT CREATES THE BATLIGHT XD[/quote]
Um. Yeah, he does that. So?

and he goes through so much pain in life ;_; i guess that sometimes the road of life can be pretty bumpy that must be why he doesn't get the girl in the end ;_;! his parents were murdered how can he overcome such great pains ;_;? and his trainer turns out to be a bad guy, and even though he thought he died he's actually alive? O_O!!!! NO WAY!!!! I TOTALLY THOUGHT THAT HE DIED IN THAT HUGE, FANCY, HIGH BUDGET EXPLOSION! this is good character development because it shows how he can NEVER TRUST ANYONE, because you never know who might be the bad guy ¬_¬! except of course his good ol' butler Alfred he can always trust that old gent ^_^

Um... Dude, with the exception of Ra's al Ghul having trained Bruce, these things have all been part of the Batman mythos for nearly a FRIGGIN CENTURY. If you have a problem with them, why the heck are you watching a Batman movie? How was anything in this film played any differently than any other version of Batman (other than the campy blue-cape stuff from the sixties and seventies)???

I JUST GFELT SO BAD EVERY TIME SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO THEM WHILE I WAS EATING MY POPCORN AND DRINKING MY SODA THIS MOVIE MADE ME CRY CAN'T YOU SEE IT HAS CHANGED MY LIFE?!?!?!

Honestly, who the #@!$ ever said that Begins changed their life? It's just a well-made, thoughtful comic book movie--DC's first in years. Right now, you're doing nothing but being an obnoxious flame-baiting troll.

wait, in the 90s, didn't they make several batman movies? and didn't everyone really love them when they came out, but then years later looked back and saw how terrible they all were?


Nobody loved Forever and Batman and Robin, Jaster, and most critics generally gave the first one mediocre-to-decent reviews. There was Batmania, but it was 98% hype and had nothing to do with how much the first movie did or didn't suck.

i just hope that he's able to defeat the JOKER X_X! i hope that Gordon is there to watch his back again!! how will he make it out of the next pickle?! STAY TUNED FOR ANOTHER EXCITING EPISODE OF MEDIOCRE ACTION BLOCKBUSTER!!!


You'd gain a lot more respect if you'd quit rudely stating your opinions as facts. And what is wrong with them using the Joker? He's Batman's consumate villain.

[quote]i bet that these new movies will be so AMAZING i can't way to see what neat SPECIAL EFFECTS THEY USE! i am positive that each movie they make will get BETTER AND BETTER! XD[/quote]

Who gives a flying flip about the special effects? We know they'll be good. If a movie is nothing more than special effects to you, then no wonder you hated Begins. Begins was about the psychology of Batman, about what makes him tick. Not about explosions, though it had those and they were good.

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Who gives a flying flip about the special effects? We know they'll be good. If a movie is nothing more than special effects to you, then no wonder you hated Begins. Begins was about the psychology of Batman, about what makes him tick. Not about explosions, though it had those and they were good.

rofl. you were actually making some fairly good points, but this paragraph is... never mind i don't think you have any idea what is happening in universe. with that one paragraph you basically backed up my entire arguement (which i am not sure you completely understood)

also, the top of your post was correct, i (admittedly) don't know much about batman! I don't read the comics and I didn't watch the cartoons. But, I do know film, and I know, that Batman Begins (being looked at purely as a MOVIE and not as a COMIC BOOK MOVIE) is pretty crappy, imo!! it's like LotR. regardless of how "true to the story" it is, you still have to look at it as two different things. book, screenplay. this is the same thing. comic book, screenplay. two different things which deserve to be judged completely separate of each other. And the reason I was watching it (even though i am not a SUPER HUGE BAT-FAN) is because it was obviously going to be one of the biggest hits of the summer! it's one of those movies you have to see, even if you think it's stupid (like titanic)

Also, I don't know how attempting to look at a movie from an academic point of view is NIT PICKY! Just because i have higher standards than "COOL CAR GREAT EXPLOSIONS", doesn't mean I am trying to nit pick!

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Oh yes, and I am not "stating my opinion as fact." I am merely stating my opinion (be it fact or not, it is what i think, therefor it will be what emits from my mouth (or in this case fingers))! I never said "THESE WRITINGS ARE IN STONE AND HAVE BEEN PROVEN TRUE THROUGH SCIENCE, NOBODY CAN EVER SAY ANYTHING THAT CONTRADICTS WHAT I HAVE SAID."

though, i guess i was a bit rude, but it is INTERNET NOBODY HAS FEELINGS ON HERE to me you are just text on a screen sorry
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You say you're judgeing it soley as a film, but I don't see it. It sounds to me like there are elements of Batman himself that are biasing you against the film. The things you listed, as I said, are things that are intrinsic to Batman's character. Aflred in the film is exactly how Alfred should be. Carmine Falcone acts like Carimine Falcone, and everyone knows that Bruce Waynes parents were murdered in front of him. That's the reason Batman became Batman.

As for 'demanding more' I don't see how you could. The plot may have a rather glaring hole in it, (that is, how come nobody started panicking when boiling water for cooking and the like if the toxin had been in the water so long) but other wise it was by far the best plot of any of the Batman movies. All the characters acted like real people, even the villains. And this is definitely the first film to go so deeply into the psychology of Batman and why he does what he does. The first film just said, "Hey, my parents have been killed. That means I'm a superhero now!" and left it at that.

Nolan didn't do that. He made it seem possible for Batman's story to actually happen in the real world, which is something no other Batman movie accomplished.

Of course, you're free to disagree.

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Originally posted by: Darth ChaltabNolan didn't do that. He made it seem possible for Batman's story to actually happen in the real world, which is something no other Batman movie accomplished.

That's exactly why I love this film so much and why I'm looking forward to any possible follow-ups (the casting was excellent too, imho).
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I'm not even going to dignify Jaster with a response. I only have one question. How old are you Jaster?

And My List would be short (In no particular order):
[!Disclaimer!-- this is meant to be taken as my personal opinion and not as fact. Nor is it meant to be me trying to force anyone to agree with my opinion.]

1. Kung Fu Hustle

2. Batman Begins

3.Charlie and The Chocolate Factory

4. Corpse Bride

5. Wallace and Gromit

I haven't seen Crash, Hustle and Flow, Jarhead, Good night and Good Luck or Syriana. I want to see those and Narnia and King Kong. Didn't see too many Movies this year. Nothing really struck my fancy in alot of them.

Kung Fu Hustle was just something fresh in a way and was very funny (Of course there's alot of asian humor in it that I'm used to and others may not be). Batman Begins was just good from a comic movie stand point. Corpse Brid and Walace and Gromit were funny and inventive and fresh in some respects.

Charlie and the Chocolate factory was okay I guess. I loved the humor in it but that's just me.

In terms of well crafted movies, there weren't a whole lot of those this year. I've heard good things about the most of the films I haven't seen. I'll enjoy them on DVD.
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Kong opens this friday here (is it showing on the US already?). I might go see it, alone, at a 11pm session, on a tuesday.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
The plot may have a rather glaring hole in it, (that is, how come nobody started panicking when boiling water for cooking and the like if the toxin had been in the water so long)


I never even thought of that. I guess it wasn't really a big deal. I can skim over that.
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I've still yet to see Narnia, Grommit, King Kong, and several other movies I've heard were very good, so my list may be incomplete.

Still, this is one of the best years for good movies in a couple.

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I've still yet to see Narnia, Grommit, King Kong, and several other movies I've heard were very good, so my list may be incomplete.
King Kong's not out yet, so don't worry. None of us have seen it either!

I'm not even going to dignify Jaster with a response. I only have one question. How old are you Jaster?

I would assume that any response you would have for me would be an argument, and I don't know exactly how ARGUING with someone is a means of conferring up dignity. I can only assume your reasoning behind that statement was "I'm going to pretend I'm much more mature than him by saying 'im not going to dignify you with a response,' but then just take a cheap shot anyway and make fun of him!"

Don't worry, we all find your "how old are you?" comment to be HYSTERICALLY HUMOUROUS, and I'm sure you'll become the BIG MAN on campus for telling off some whippersnapper on the internet at a Star Wars forum!

Anyway. I've stated before on these boards how old (or, compared to some people here, young) I am, but I don't really feel like DIGNIFYING YOU WITH A RESPONSE So you can just continue thinking you're oh so much better than me, just because I was a bit rude!

btw (this is my cheap stab, since you snuck one in as well): I love how you try making fun of my age, and then list Wallace and Gromit as one of the BEST MOVIES of the year. Granted, Wallace and Gromit are pretty cool, but it still seemed a bit ironic!

Anyway, Chaltab. If you're interested in continuing the Batman debate, I'd be happy to do so in PM (so that people like Switch Radic don't feel the need to STEP IN). I'm actually pretty interested in hearing what else you have to say about it, seeing as how you (appear) to be a pretty big BAT-FAN.
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Naw. I've pretty much said my peace on the subject. It's not that I demand you like the movie or think less of you for a different opinion, it's just odd that you seemed at first to be bashing the movie for being nothing but mind-numbing action (when the whole point of the movie was trying to be something more) and then bashing it for things integral to Batman's history and character.

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Well then, I'll just say my last little bit on here (real fast).

I didn't have any prejudice feelings towards Batman pre-Begins that I know of, unless some snuck in there when I wasn't looking. I don't really dislike BATMAN himself. I love Comic Books, and although I haven't read Batman, I'm sure I'd enjoy the comics if I read them. But comic books and movies are just so different from each other, man. I mean, I wouldn't be EXPECTING as much from a comic book. Mindless action and cheesy characters are PART of comic books. But when it comes to film, after seeing movies like Requiem for a Dream or City of God, which LITERALLY changed the way I think, movies like Batman seriously PALE in comparison. Not just pale, but become translucent! When I said the thing about Batman Begins "changing my life," I wasn't making fun of people who say that (because I honestly haven't met anyone who said that), but rather was making fun of the fact that it didn't personally change MY life, which is what I've come to expect from movies these days.

That might sound kind of selfish, but when people feel passionately about something (as I do with film), people naturally tend to be a bit selfish. Look at us, we're all at "Original Trilogy." You can't get much more passionate than that. I'm sure there are several people who would think we're being "selfish" by wanting the original trilogy on DVD, and not just accepting what we're given, but we feel very passionate about the subject, so to us, it doesn't seem selfish at all. That might help give you a better idea of where I'm coming from.

Though, I guess it's really unfair of me to post a long paragraph about how you should judge things completely separate of each other, and then start comparing Begins to movies like Requiem, but honestly, it's hard not to man. Seeing as how I am seriously attempting to break into directing, and I take films very seriously, it's hard for me not to just LAUGH at something like BATMAN BEGINS (EXTREME ACTION COOL CARS), y'know? I guess I might (i don't think so, but it's possible) demand to much from a movie, but really, I just want to watch something that has more meaning than "wow, that's cool?"

Also, just because Nolan made it seem like Batman's story could happen in real life, doesn't make it any less corny or ridiculous. I mean, WHITE CHICKS could happen in real life, but that doesn't make the movie any better. And the whole "going into the psychology of Batman" thing is one of the things that I found to be really cheesy. It just felt so cliché. Like I said before, the entire movie felt like "OH NO, OUR HERO HAS GONE THROUGH SO MUCH PAIN, HOW CAN HE EVER OVERCOME THE GREAT ORDEALS OF LIFE!? I HOPE HE MAKES IT OUT OF THIS PICKLE!" And Christian Bale's acting really didn't help that feeling, as he had the same look on his face throughout the entire movie (except when he was batman, when he all of a sudden got REALLY ANGRY GRR). Seriously, people make fun of Keanu Reeves' facial expressions, but Bale's weren't any better in Begins.

Anyway, that is my two cents (i guess it was a bit more than just two but whatever).
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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
Well then, I'll just say my last little bit on here (real fast).

I didn't have any prejudice feelings towards Batman pre-Begins that I know of, unless some snuck in there when I wasn't looking. I don't really dislike BATMAN himself. I love Comic Books, and although I haven't read Batman, I'm sure I'd enjoy the comics if I read them. But comic books and movies are just so different from each other, man. I mean, I wouldn't be EXPECTING as much from a comic book. Mindless action and cheesy characters are PART of comic books. But when it comes to film, after seeing movies like Requiem for a Dream or City of God, which LITERALLY changed the way I think, movies like Batman seriously PALE in comparison. Not just pale, but become translucent! When I said the thing about Batman Begins "changing my life," I wasn't making fun of people who say that (because I honestly haven't met anyone who said that), but rather was making fun of the fact that it didn't personally change MY life, which is what I've come to expect from movies these days.

That might sound kind of selfish, but when people feel passionately about something (as I do with film), people naturally tend to be a bit selfish. Look at us, we're all at "Original Trilogy." You can't get much more passionate than that. I'm sure there are several people who would think we're being "selfish" by wanting the original trilogy on DVD, and not just accepting what we're given, but we feel very passionate about the subject, so to us, it doesn't seem selfish at all. That might help give you a better idea of where I'm coming from.

Though, I guess it's really unfair of me to post a long paragraph about how you should judge things completely separate of each other, and then start comparing Begins to movies like Requiem, but honestly, it's hard not to man. Seeing as how I am seriously attempting to break into directing, and I take films very seriously, it's hard for me not to just LAUGH at something like BATMAN BEGINS (EXTREME ACTION COOL CARS), y'know? I guess I might (i don't think so, but it's possible) demand to much from a movie, but really, I just want to watch something that has more meaning than "wow, that's cool?"

Also, just because Nolan made it seem like Batman's story could happen in real life, doesn't make it any less corny or ridiculous. I mean, WHITE CHICKS could happen in real life, but that doesn't make the movie any better. And the whole "going into the psychology of Batman" thing is one of the things that I found to be really cheesy. It just felt so cliché. Like I said before, the entire movie felt like "OH NO, OUR HERO HAS GONE THROUGH SO MUCH PAIN, HOW CAN HE EVER OVERCOME THE GREAT ORDEALS OF LIFE!? I HOPE HE MAKES IT OUT OF THIS PICKLE!" And Christian Bale's acting really didn't help that feeling, as he had the same look on his face throughout the entire movie (except when he was batman, when he all of a sudden got REALLY ANGRY GRR). Seriously, people make fun of Keanu Reeves' facial expressions, but Bale's weren't any better in Begins.

Anyway, that is my two cents (i guess it was a bit more than just two but whatever).


I too am a huge fan of film and must say that I greatly disagree with you about the topic of Batman Begins. I honestly don't think that the movie was all action and what action was in the film probably isn't the moments that people are fond of and remember. The movie was a character study into the mind of Bruce Wayne and why he does the things that he does. I don't find it anymore cheesy than other films of it's kind. Basically in general it just sounds like you're against film that has a lot of action and special effects in it...and yet you're on a Star Wars board. Whatever, I really don't wish to fight.

My top films in no particular order(This has been a weak year...)

1. Batman Begins
2. A History of Violence
3. Crash
4. Narnia

That's pretty much it of what I have seen.... Still need to check out Syriana, Kong, and Walk the Line



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Jaster, I think you ask too much from movies. Not every movie has to change you like. There is nothing wrong a movie being simply two hours of good entertainment. If Batman Begins didn't follow the comic books close enough, Batman fans would be up in arms. When you make movie out a comic book, you have to consider both general movie fans and the fans of the comic book.

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But Jaster, you still acted like a jerk.