Star Wars: The Lost Planet (A Skeleton Crew Edit) [RELEASED 1080p, 5.1] — Page 2

Sucks that we had to lose the scene between Yod and Wim. Was a really good scene and reveals that he has to have at least some knowledge as a Jedi.

But yeah, huge filler episode this week. I think you might be able to cut everything that the kids do after falling out of the chutes. As for how they get back on the ship (and why it suddenly looks new again) that might be harder to convey. But it might be possible with more AI lines and depending on how all of this is handled in Episode 7.

One more radical idea you might consider is having them land outside of the chutes in the wide shot (just change the lighting) but then zoom in to the scene where they reunite at the end of this episode. The context of both scenes is mostly the same, having just endured a huge fall. And replace some of their lines as they’re hugging and checking on each other to make it seem like the resort dropped their ship down below to scrap it.

I’m interested in checking this out!

I still stand by what I said last week - despite most of the internet seemingly liking last week’s character episode, I think you could genuinely cut most of it out.

As for this week’s episode, I think the back-and-forth about throwing Jod out the airlock could be significantly trimmed, namely just by having the kids show up in their ship sooner.

I do wonder, at this point, if the parent scenes were very necessary, seeing as how their message is deployed only within At-Attin’s vicinity, and isn’t at all necessary for them to get back home. Removing those scenes might make transitions within the main story harder, but you’d also be able to include more scenes that were previously removed, such as the one between Jod and Wim in hyperspace, or keep the runtime closer to 2 hours 30 minutes since I think it will be closer to 3 hours at this rate.

smudger9 said:

The escape from the trash machine needs to be included and there isn’t enough footage between the kids reuniting and discovering their ship to cut everything else without it feeling jarring. I hate it when they mess around with the main starship, it really limits editing options - I had the same issue with Mando Season 2.

Yeah, this is what I was afraid of. Plus, it would be strange to have them land outside of the pipes right next to their ship, and have the mountain disappear for the rest of the shots.

I think another way forward here is to figure out if there is a clever way to cut away from their talk next to the chutes before they split up, and then when we transition back to the kids when they’re climbing up that snowy hill together. But that just raises questions as to how the ship got from up above to down below!

I think depending on the final episode will determine if I’ll think it’s warranted to keep a movie edit of this show. Everything seemed to be working quite well up until last week, like you said.

One random thing that came to me: you might need to reinstate the whole “claimsies” scene, or else Fern taking back SM-33 will make even less sense than it already does. Wild how that scene has more relevance to the plot than any of the parent stuff lmao.

1. Have you finished all of your edits with the New Republic tagging?
2. Are you integrating any other footage that connects this movie to the others? If not, why give in that moniker?

smudger9 said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

One random thing that came to me: you might need to reinstate the whole “claimsies” scene, or else Fern taking back SM-33 will make even less sense than it already does. Wild how that scene has more relevance to the plot than any of the parent stuff lmao.

One radical option I’ve been considering is having the crew travel straight from the pirate port to skull mountain.

Hmmm. This would mean losing half of episode 3 and all of episode 4. Honestly, not a bad idea whatsoever since the characters never investigate the other “At” worlds for some reason. This was only plot hole I’ve noticed in the series so far.

The trouble, of course, would be explaining why they have SM-33 all tied up despite spending so much time rescuing him from the pirates just a moment ago. I think some AI lines might be able to solve this - maybe the pirates tried tinkering with him.

That ending was… not great tbh.

It almost feels like there was more filmed but it got cut out because they decided to not continue this story anymore. Like, what even happened to Jod? Any other show would have shown him in Republic custody, or escaping on some secret shuttle. They could have even given KB more physical disabilities from the crash so that she’s even more of a cyborg - at least any sort of consequences.

What a disappointment. At least 6 / 8 episodes are extremely good Star Wars, but of course the last one is lackluster.

I did appreciate the involvement of the parents in helping during the finale.

I wasn’t a fan of Jod letting the pirates just attack instead of quietly taking over; it seemed dumb and needlessly bloody for a character who had mostly tried to avoid killing random people.

I did appreciate Jod’s slight smile when the good kids defeated him.

Above all, I appreciated that they actually kept it all self-contained, a fun normal story in a shared universe.

I suppose I was being a little over-the-top last night. That was just my immediate reaction to everything lol. At the end of the day I probably set my expectations a little too high for what is ultimately a kid’s show that is mostly disconnected from the larger Star Wars galaxy. I think the biggest plot hole is that Jod wants to continue current operations as-is, he never wanted to hurt anybody, and yet he allowed his crew to completely decimate the city. It’s a miracle nobody got killed! But I guess you can rationalize it as a show of force to let people know who’s in charge now.

Like you said, Neel’s cannon moment can probably be cut out rather smoothly - but it doesn’t leave him with a whole lot to do in the finale. We also know that KB can contact the New Republic without the owl lady, since an unknown person does it back at the resort. Maybe somebody skilled with VFX can remove her hologram.

As for the title of the show, I agree that “Skeleton Crew” was probably the wrong choice in terms of marketing it, as kids will have no idea what this even means. “The Lost Planet” is a step in the right direction, if a bit bland. “Lost to the Stars” or “Lost to the Galaxy” would apply to both the kids and At-Attin.

Why’s it called skeleton crew anyway?
As someone who only watched the first 2 episodes and has already forgotten it, I’d like to see this when it’s ready, love all your edits smudger 😊

A couple of lingering questions, which maybe you could work into or work around in the edit:

• What happened to the captain of the Onyx Cinder after he crashed on At-Atan? Maybe he also confronted the Supervisor AI and got killed by it when his true agenda was discovered? Maybe the AI could drop a line that implies this?

• If the Onyx Cinder was originally a native At-Atan ship and that’s why it was allowed through the barrier, who was its captain and what was its purpose? Was the original pirate captain from At-Atan in the first place, or maybe he captured the actual envoy who was supposed to use the ship to travel back and forth? Maybe that’s why the AI recognized Jod as an envoy.

• And again, as has been brought up multiple times now, why does Jod tell the pirates to attack? Wouldn’t a better tactic have been to simply replace the Supervisor and send shipments of credits out to his crew every few months? Could you somehow imply that this was his original plan but that it had been blocked by something, maybe the kids blowing the cover on him or his ship’s actual identity? That way, just like with the kids, he would start out trying to be a friend, but if needed, he would change angles and use fear to get what he wants.

vranir said:

A couple of lingering questions, which maybe you could work into or work around in the edit:

• What happened to the captain of the Onyx Cinder after he crashed on At-Atan? Maybe he also confronted the Supervisor AI and got killed by it when his true agenda was discovered? Maybe the AI could drop a line that implies this?

Very good point here, and I’m not sure why they didn’t address this in the show. Literally all they had to do is show his skeleton right next to the AI. Would have matched the Treasure Planet references perfectly (and the show’s title, no less!)

I’m assuming that, on descent, Captain Rennod’s crew turned on him, pulling them out of the autopilot and causing them to crash in the forest. We never see Rennod’s skeleton on board (I’m assuming his species has a skeleton that looks different) so we have to assume he escaped the crash site and made his way somewhere.

EDIT: Another thing is that for some reason Rennod decided to pimp out the envoy ship in armor, to the point of being unrecognizable as an envoy’s ship. This is used to explain why the AI doesn’t suspect Jod of anything nefarious, being that it’s technically the same ship that previously showed up and recently left. I guess the previous pirate crew was always going to try the “loud” approach, and immediately start looting everything?

The other interesting thing is that the Empire never goes there. The AI says that the last message he received is the Jedi are traitors to the Republic, and not that the Republic has become the Empire.

sgscobie said:

vranir said:

A couple of lingering questions, which maybe you could work into or work around in the edit:

• What happened to the captain of the Onyx Cinder after he crashed on At-Atan? Maybe he also confronted the Supervisor AI and got killed by it when his true agenda was discovered? Maybe the AI could drop a line that implies this?

• If the Onyx Cinder was originally a native At-Atan ship and that’s why it was allowed through the barrier, who was its captain and what was its purpose? Was the original pirate captain from At-Atan in the first place, or maybe he captured the actual envoy who was supposed to use the ship to travel back and forth? Maybe that’s why the AI recognized Jod as an envoy.

• And again, as has been brought up multiple times now, why does Jod tell the pirates to attack? Wouldn’t a better tactic have been to simply replace the Supervisor and send shipments of credits out to his crew every few months? Could you somehow imply that this was his original plan but that it had been blocked by something, maybe the kids blowing the cover on him or his ship’s actual identity? That way, just like with the kids, he would start out trying to be a friend, but if needed, he would change angles and use fear to get what he wants.

What happened to the captain of the Onyx Cinder was clearly explained—his concubine stabbed him. His corpse was shown on the Onyx Cinder.

I don’t think this was ever made clear enough, because nobody I listened to about this show ever noticed this detail in the earlier episodes. Several people were theorizing he was going to be revealed as the Overseer despite the timeline not matching up.