Originally posted by: MTHaslett
I think seeing her in the end as a ghost will feel awkward unless we can come up with a simple explanation and get Luke to be more aware of who Padme is.
This will never, ever happen as long as I'm involved. LOL! I don't like the idea of ANY other Force spirits than the ones we already have. It can get you in all kinds of trouble. Once you start with say, Qui-Gon, then why not Ki-Adi-Mundi? He was murdered. Along with all the other Jedi. And why stop with Jedi? What about Biggs? Red Leader? Porkins and the whole Rogue Squadron? And why not Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru? They were all murdered too! And while you're at it, just throw Whoopi Goldberg and Patrick Swayze in there as well. "What you talkin' bout Sam Wheat..."
But you forget, we're never going to see Maul and the Trade Federation together anymore. Not in one scene. Maul now appears three times: 1) on Tattooine with the probes. 2) to fight Qui-Gon in the desert and 3) he disappears until the doors open in the hangar on Naboo.
He is clearly someone with his own agenda in this version and is certainly not taking orders from Gunray, it just wouldn't make any sense. It won't work as a Tarkin/Vader dynamic because Maul and Gunray never even see or speak to each other. That's why I think Maul should be on his own mission from Sidious, solely focused on Anakin. It would make him much more threatening, the boogeyman unleashed to steal a child away from the arms of a noble pair of knights. And the Jedi are just like, "What the? Who the hell is this? And what does he want?" The last thing they expected to face on this mission was a Sith Warrior. They assume he's been hired by Gunray to go after the Queen, but it soon becomes apparent he's wanting more. Maul catches them completely off-guard, and Qui-Gon pays with his life. This scenario also means that when he reappears in Episode III, not only does he have a vendetta against Obi-Wan, but now he's also got Anakin face-to-face finally, only to find he will be replaced by him.
Now, if you're still insistent that Maul needs to be affiliated with the Federation, then we will HAVE to include at least one scene with Sidious where Gunray and Maul are both taking orders from him. Otherwise, it just won't add up, IMO.
What's our title for Episode I?
I think seeing her in the end as a ghost will feel awkward unless we can come up with a simple explanation and get Luke to be more aware of who Padme is.
This will never, ever happen as long as I'm involved. LOL! I don't like the idea of ANY other Force spirits than the ones we already have. It can get you in all kinds of trouble. Once you start with say, Qui-Gon, then why not Ki-Adi-Mundi? He was murdered. Along with all the other Jedi. And why stop with Jedi? What about Biggs? Red Leader? Porkins and the whole Rogue Squadron? And why not Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru? They were all murdered too! And while you're at it, just throw Whoopi Goldberg and Patrick Swayze in there as well. "What you talkin' bout Sam Wheat..."
I think you're right that Episode I is the place to start. Trooperman did say ROTJ would take less time, and I optimistically took that to mean something impossible, like he'd do it right away. Not likely is it?
Um, prolly not.
I like the idea that Maul has a second agenda while working with the Nemoidians -- but he is there to assist them as well. It is at the request of Sidious that he stays at the Nemoidian's side. If he senses the Vergence of the Force, it will be a coincidence for him just as it is for Qui Gon. But a beat of Maul recognizing the Force in Anakin as he fights Qui Gon at the Queen's ship would be something I'd like to see -- just a beat where Maul gives Anakin a second glance of "Hey, that kid's special. Note to self: keep an eye on this one." Especially if there were a way to make Anakin see Maul and be terrified by him there.
Maul/Gunray will work best if it reminds us of Vader/Tarkin, I think. But as clear as it was that Tarkin out-ranked Vader, it was still clear that Vader's agenda with Obi Wan was personal. So the more we can construct a second agenda for Maul, the better. It will also help us want to see him again as Grievous in Ep III.
Um, prolly not.
I like the idea that Maul has a second agenda while working with the Nemoidians -- but he is there to assist them as well. It is at the request of Sidious that he stays at the Nemoidian's side. If he senses the Vergence of the Force, it will be a coincidence for him just as it is for Qui Gon. But a beat of Maul recognizing the Force in Anakin as he fights Qui Gon at the Queen's ship would be something I'd like to see -- just a beat where Maul gives Anakin a second glance of "Hey, that kid's special. Note to self: keep an eye on this one." Especially if there were a way to make Anakin see Maul and be terrified by him there.
Maul/Gunray will work best if it reminds us of Vader/Tarkin, I think. But as clear as it was that Tarkin out-ranked Vader, it was still clear that Vader's agenda with Obi Wan was personal. So the more we can construct a second agenda for Maul, the better. It will also help us want to see him again as Grievous in Ep III.
But you forget, we're never going to see Maul and the Trade Federation together anymore. Not in one scene. Maul now appears three times: 1) on Tattooine with the probes. 2) to fight Qui-Gon in the desert and 3) he disappears until the doors open in the hangar on Naboo.
He is clearly someone with his own agenda in this version and is certainly not taking orders from Gunray, it just wouldn't make any sense. It won't work as a Tarkin/Vader dynamic because Maul and Gunray never even see or speak to each other. That's why I think Maul should be on his own mission from Sidious, solely focused on Anakin. It would make him much more threatening, the boogeyman unleashed to steal a child away from the arms of a noble pair of knights. And the Jedi are just like, "What the? Who the hell is this? And what does he want?" The last thing they expected to face on this mission was a Sith Warrior. They assume he's been hired by Gunray to go after the Queen, but it soon becomes apparent he's wanting more. Maul catches them completely off-guard, and Qui-Gon pays with his life. This scenario also means that when he reappears in Episode III, not only does he have a vendetta against Obi-Wan, but now he's also got Anakin face-to-face finally, only to find he will be replaced by him.
Now, if you're still insistent that Maul needs to be affiliated with the Federation, then we will HAVE to include at least one scene with Sidious where Gunray and Maul are both taking orders from him. Otherwise, it just won't add up, IMO.
What's our title for Episode I?
Great question! I was going to ask you the same thing. I don't want to use anything that's been used before. I know someone suggested in another thread about it not having any subtitle, just "Star Wars Episode I". I'm not sure how I feel about that, though I'm not completely opposed to the idea. I'm starting to get excited about this.
--InfoDroid