Spence's PT Edits Round 3 (V2 of AOTC Released) — Page 11

wutwut said:

I’d love to give this a go, would it be possible to get a link in PM please Spence?

Please send a PM instead of requesting in the thread so as not to fill the thread with requests. Thanks!

Finally watched this version of TPM and gotta say that I just LOVED what you did here.

1 - the most perfect fanedit of the pod race I’ve ever seen
2 - keeping the underwater city, just removing some gungan over the top silliness
3 - removing 3pO entirely
4 - removing the dumb blood test
5 - having the deleted scenes, specially Ani beating up Greedo, but without being Greedo (so simple but I dont think it’s been done before)
6 - removing the stupid jedi etch-a-sketch test
7 - rearranging the final battle so blowing up the droid ship is actually relevant

as of now this is my absolutely to-go version of TPM!

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Some suggestions for a v2:

• Custom crawl to properly set up the mood for adventure? Original is not only a nonsensical bore, but with a glaring error (“…sent two jedi KNIGHTS” when obi-wan is still a padawan and only made a jedi knight by the very end of the movie)

• 18:17 remove that weird homer simpson “d’oh” from the droids?

• 28:54 - cut was weird/abrupt here, only time it felt “fanedited” in the entire view. Maybe cutting straight from qui-gon leaving the backyard to 28:58 with qui-gon passing in front of the screen could work better?

• 40:45-41:28 - honestly could completely cut all jar jar stuff from here and nothing would be missed

• 58:38-58-42 - possible to remove that thing/ship/balloon/whatever from the blue sky? that unfinished low-res becomes very distracting

• 1:04:59 cut straight to 1:05:02? Just to not show qui-gon falling on his ass like a pathetic out of breath old potato sack after exchanging like 8 blows with darth maul?

• 1:20:25 - a weird hiss in the middle of the “there is little more…” sentence?

• 1:22:15 - cut that unnecesary jar jar scream?

• 1:37:47 - how about changing Ani’s line to just “r2, get us off this autopilot”. More badass and determined?

• Not sure about this one but, maybe cutting (or at least trimming/rearranging) the yoda/obi-wan scene at the end? Always felt horrible to me that obi-wan just went to train anakin just because he promised qui-gon, not because he truly wanted and believed in him; also, the funeral scene next already tell us everything we need to know (“the council gave me permission to train you”)

• And the one big change I would suggest, as others said, is removing Jabba from the pod racing. Him beeing there never made much sense to me, because:
  1 - he’s supposed to be this big underground gangster boss with enemies at every corner, why would he just be laying lown on public amidst thousands of people like that?
  2 - this CG jabba has nothing to do with practical jabba we have and love from ep VI
  3 - he’s supossed to be scary and intimidating just by sheer name, by here? nah, he looks like an overgrown worn-out old slug that falls asleep by itself and has to be funnily poked around by his assistant. Why would anyone care in the slightest to be on his black list?

I’d really like to try this out. Could you send me a link in a private message, please?

I am a big fan of these edits. However, the added film grain and color adjustments to the picture take me a bit out of it. Maybe I’m the only one who feels this way…maybe not. Would there be any chance of putting a version out there without the picture adjustments?

potty meister said:

I am a big fan of these edits. However, the added film grain and color adjustments to the picture take me a bit out of it. Maybe I’m the only one who feels this way…maybe not. Would there be any chance of putting a version out there without the picture adjustments?

The intention was to bring them more in-line with the look of 35mm film. Rather, to make them fit better with 4K77-83. I’m pretty happy with the result and don’t intend to release any alternate versions (other than the version of AOTC without the Kenobi series scene.)

Darn…sad face

Hi Spence and all,

I’ve been checking out bits and pieces of these edits and have some feedback.

I watched the end of TPM and there was still a little too much Jar Jar and Anakin childish silliness for my taste. That’s the only criticism I have so far.

For AOTC and ROTS I still kinda miss Yoda fighting. I remember being so excited about seeing that in the theater. It seems most editors have removed that which leaves a bit of a hole IMO. If you were really against Yoda using a lightsaber and flipping around so much I wonder if there was a way to have Yoda have a “force battle” with Dooku and Sidious only. Ie… After Yoda and Dooku start throwing things around Dooku realizes he can’t win and instead of saying “Now we’ll test our skills with a lightsaber” or whatever it would be him dropping the thing on Obi-Wan and Anakin and dipping out. It would be tough but I wonder if there’s a way to have Yoda and Palpatine flinging stuff at each other including the senate pods without the lightsabers. That one might be nearly impossible.

Order 66 looks great! I always wanted to see more of what was going on in the jedi temple and fortunately got some material to show that.

What I’ve loved the most so far… OMG your Anakin vs Obi-Wan duel is phenomenal. You cut out the silliness like the bad CGI kick, the flipping sabers around behind their back, and some of the dialogue. I always hated “Only a Sith deals with absolutes” and “I have the high ground”. Those are cringe for me. Especially the only a Sith line". Are there any other edits that have similar cuts of that duel? I’ll go check Hal’s next I suppose.

I’ll check out other parts of your PT edits.

Hey! Thanks for the feedback.

The Anakin/Jar Jar stuff is to taste, and most edits do remove a lot more of them than I did. I personally feel that too much of them is cut out in most edits, which makes everything feel disjointed. I’d rather have a few silly moments that make the whole better.

Also, your idea of the force battle with Dooku/Yoda is actually what a lot of other edits do, famously HAL9000’s. So a version like that does exist. Not sure about the senate fight. I don’t feel that we should cut away from the Anakin/Obi-Wan fight as it’s much more consequential. The Palpatine fight is cool but doesn’t really add anything.

Personally, I prefer to only see Yoda fight when he absolutely has to in ROTS when he’s threatened by the stormtroopers. It’s a similar payoff to seeing him fight in AOTC but to me, is more effective. As you said, you’ve watched bits and pieces, whereas that change is meant to payoff if you watch the whole thing.

Glad Order 66 worked for you, that was a real pain to get right!

My duel is pretty close to HAL’s but I cut a bit more than he did, while keeping some stuff he cut.

Hi Spence,

The Anakin/Jar Jar stuff is to taste, and most edits do remove a lot more of them than I did. I personally feel that too much of them is cut out in most edits, which makes everything feel disjointed. I’d rather have a few silly moments that make the whole better.

Specific moments for me are when Jar Jar gets the battle droid wires stuck on his foot then miraculously takes out 3 battle droids at 1:37:20 or so. Ugh…cringe… Or Anakin’s “woah” at 1:44:30 or so. Just minor things.

Also, your idea of the force battle with Dooku/Yoda is actually what a lot of other edits do, famously HAL9000’s. So a version like that does exist. Not sure about the senate fight. I don’t feel that we should cut away from the Anakin/Obi-Wan fight as it’s much more consequential. The Palpatine fight is cool but doesn’t really add anything.

I’ll check out Hal’s too. I think Yoda DOES have to fight Dooku and Sidious. With Dooku he is saving Obi-Wan and Anakin. It also doesn’t make sense to me that Yoda and Obi-Wan would want to take out Anakin but not Sidious? I also find the Yoda vs Palpatine fight to be very symbolic. They are fighting in the senate chamber essentially fighting for the Republic. And this somewhat explains why a powerful jedi like Yoda would go into hiding. I don’t think the theatrical version does that enough but you get the jist of it at least. Ie…that Sidious is basically as powerful as Yoda but has thousands of clone troopers at his disposal as well.

My duel is pretty close to HAL’s but I cut a bit more than he did, while keeping some stuff he cut.

Yep - will check Hal’s.

EDIT: Just watched Hal’s Anakin vs Obi-Wan duel - it is also great! I also like how Hal handled Yoda vs Dooku if you’re in the camp that doesn’t want Yoda jumping around all crazy.

Dumb question. I noticed there is a 3gb version of TPM and an 18gb version of TPM. It looks like the resolution and FPS are the same. What are you actually gaining with the 18gb version?

MiDKnighT said:

Dumb question. I noticed there is a 3gb version of TPM and an 18gb version of TPM. It looks like the resolution and FPS are the same. What are you actually gaining with the 18gb version?

It’s just a higher bitrate. The bigger file is closer to blu-ray quality. I like to provide both since I know bandwith/storage can be at a premium for some. They both look good but the bigger one is significantly better.