I kind of like the mocking tone of Luke talking about laser swords, and it’s time for the Jedi to end.
The only real dumb line to me is kill the past. But Kylo is Sith wannabe, so it does make sense.
As for Rose line about winning through love and not hate, it comes from an idealist. A woman who lost her sister. A woman who lost her family fighting the first order. I don’t hate it as much as people reacted to it.
Yes, Rose is an idealist. However, I feel she never learns from the error of her ways. In particular when she generalizes everyone at Canto Bite as being the worse people in the galaxy, saying EVERYONE there got rich selling weapons to the first order. She never discovers that this was an irrational and unrealistic outlook and generalization (only Finn does when DJ shows him the owner of the ship they stole also sold weapons to the Resistance). I would have loved to see Rose react to that fact, not Finn!
The same could be said about Holdo in regards to not learning from her error. Poe gets “taught a lesson” by Leia saying, “She [Holdo] was more concerned about protecting the light then appearing as a hero,” (another awful line of dialogue) but Holdo doesn’t learn anything. The movies tries to make her out to be a hero. But her terrible leadership and lack of communication caused the death of hundreds and I’m suppose to look at her like a “hero.” Nope, sorry. Critics like to tear down Rose Tico. But I’ll take Rose any day over Holdo. Any day. Holdo and Jar Jar are my least favorite SW characters.
That being said, Rose’s line about “This is how we’re going to win this war; Not by fighting those we hate but by saving those we love,” sounds like something from Attack of the Clones. Simply awful. Especially considering that’s what Finn was doing; trying to save the resistance. It just reeks of some foolish hippy idealistic fool nonsense. And her inferring that she “loves” Finn when she just met him is Attack of the Clones levels of cringe. It’s hilarious how Finn dissed her ROS.