The Hobbit (M4 Book Edit) (Released) — Page 9

I just wanted to drop back into this thread to let you know that I used this edit over the past few months to introduce Tolkien to my 6 year old daughter. We would listen to a chapter of Bluefax’s amazing audiobook and then watch the corresponding part of the movie. It all went over very well, and we wrapped up just this past weekend. The slightly reduced action quotient and fewer departures from the text made this ideal for us. Thank you!

sidshady12 said:

Pmed all, cheers guys.

All this middle earth hype with the new Amazon show & people asking for links is makin me wanna go back to editing The Hobbit…Maybe later this year I’ll take another look at the project, see if any new ideas come to mind after sitting on a finished release for almost a year.

Its good hear something possitive come form the series (no offence meant to any that enjoyed the show). I just like to say that this edit has become my families go to version of The Hobbit after I introduced it to them and we will be including it in our next marathon later this year. That being said I would love to see what else you come up with and encourage you to persue any idea you have. If they, work great! If not, its not like it will being ruining anything or hurting anyone. You have already polished a turd (more of a diamond in the rough but hey the first saying fit the sentance better), so there is no doubt in you skills!!

Thank you so much for all the hard work you and the other contributers put in and good luck on you’re next endevor!

Thank you!

Also Pmed everyone

Pmed all.

Also, as of this past month:

• Edit has been updated (Digital & new ISOs both up)
• A few minor tweaks in the 2nd half, essentially reducing unnecessary final battle action/smoothing out Bilbo’s retreat & Ravenhill, and now putting back in some character moments. Runtime is unchanged. Full changelist is in the drive.
• ISO has 2 new special features, one with Dol Guldur and a new Thorin deleted scene.

sidshady12 said:

Pmed all.

Also, as of this past month:

• Edit has been updated (Digital & new ISOs both up)
• A few minor tweaks in the 2nd half, essentially reducing unnecessary final battle action/smoothing out Bilbo’s retreat & Ravenhill, and now putting back in some character moments. Runtime is unchanged. Full changelist is in the drive.
• ISO has 2 new special features, one with Dol Guldur and a new Thorin deleted scene.

Do you foresee yourself ever remastering this edit in 4k?

rik said:

Hi. About this question, I can share with you my experience: for this edit and for my private vision, i created the italian dub (@sidshady12 write me if you are interested to add to your edit). It’s long process (it depends how much time do you dedicate, probably in a month you can do it, i worked mostly at the weekends), but it isn’t so hard. What you need are: the audio tracks of the extended version of the movies and the list of changes and cut made by sidshady12 (you can find them here or on his website). What i did is extract the audio track of M4 Book edit and all extended movies and i opened them in Adobe Audition (i think it’s a great program to do this kind of things because you can work on audio adding effects or separate dialogue and backing music). Then i opened the movie on a video player and the original movie on another video player. Then i watched the two movies at the same time, so i can noticed when he made cuts. I suggest to you to maintain the M4 Book Edit’s track as basic track and replace only dialogues parts. Then is easy compiling a new movie edit file adding the track in your language (i used MKVToolnix) and forced subtitle track. The only parts not translated is the final Gandalf’s speech at Thorin’s funeral, that part i left it in english with subtitle. Ask me anything you want.

Hi. Do you still have the italian dub? I would be interested in checking it out (for private vision only of course), even if it’s not the updated version. Would you PM me in case you’re willing to share it?

Hey all,

I have been working on some revisions after reviewing all available source footage (something I hadn’t really done in years). I’ll spare the details (which you can find on my corresponding fanedit.org thread or on fanedits reddit), here are the main ideas:

• Added 2 deleted shots of Dwarves in cells (from Appendices) into Woodland Realm
• Laketown sequence extended by 1 minute, many felt it was too quick. Now it’s as long as possible, given available footage. Added a few more shots/5 lines of dialogue back into Smaug-Bilbo sequence.
• Improved “Last Light” scene to feel much more smooth.
• Redone Ravenhill sequence to relate back to the flow of the battle in the book a bit more, while still being just as cinematically satisfying and enjoyable, hopefully also feeling like it “drags on” a bit less
• Various tidying up here and there, full changelog will come

If anyone else has suggestions, now is the time. After comparing my edit to the source footage again, I really feel confident that every possible shot has been contemplated. Don’t want anything left on the table, hopefully am able to deliver the most book-accurate extended edition style adaptation of The Hobbit possible with the footage we have.

sidshady12, I cant say enough good things about your edit of The Hobbit. In fact I think it’s the most successful fan edit I’ve ever watched.

It’s great to hear that you’ve polished it still further

The update isn’t ready yet, I guess I didn’t specify that so my bad. I had implied I was still finishing it up when asking for any final suggestions (which offer is still open!), but I should have it ready within the next month or two

sidshady12 said:

The update isn’t ready yet, I guess I didn’t specify that so my bad. I had implied I was still finishing it up when asking for any final suggestions (which offer is still open!), but I should have it ready within the next month or two

The only suggestion to improve it now would be to use the 4K source, but I imagine that would be a real long trudge across ground you’ve already covered once.

It’s a brilliant edit, and it can stand proudly alongside the three LOTR movies.

Souds very interesting! Would love to see it more accurate. J

sidshady12 said:

Hey all,

I have been working on some revisions after reviewing all available source footage (something I hadn’t really done in years). I’ll spare the details (which you can find on my corresponding fanedit.org thread or on fanedits reddit), here are the main ideas:

• Added 2 deleted shots of Dwarves in cells (from Appendices) into Woodland Realm
• Laketown sequence extended by 1 minute, many felt it was too quick. Now it’s as long as possible, given available footage. Added a few more shots/5 lines of dialogue back into Smaug-Bilbo sequence.
• Improved “Last Light” scene to feel much more smooth.
• Redone Ravenhill sequence to relate back to the flow of the battle in the book a bit more, while still being just as cinematically satisfying and enjoyable, hopefully also feeling like it “drags on” a bit less
• Various tidying up here and there, full changelog will come

If anyone else has suggestions, now is the time. After comparing my edit to the source footage again, I really feel confident that every possible shot has been contemplated. Don’t want anything left on the table, hopefully am able to deliver the most book-accurate extended edition style adaptation of The Hobbit possible with the footage we have.

Fantastic! Glad to see new work flow and revisions of this incredible piece of film editing and visual tweaking which has been made posible. I am most interested in removing all irrelevant and in your face shots of Far Easterling and Haradwaith people in the shots at Lake Town, and in the encampment after the death of Smaug the Magnificent.

I will do a following post with timestamps and indication as to where they are, so if you desire to flip and switch shots, or maybe add BTS footage, you can do so.

Matt.F said:

sidshady12 said:

The update isn’t ready yet, I guess I didn’t specify that so my bad. I had implied I was still finishing it up when asking for any final suggestions (which offer is still open!), but I should have it ready within the next month or two

The only suggestion to improve it now would be to use the 4K source, but I imagine that would be a real long trudge across ground you’ve already covered once.

It’s a brilliant edit, and it can stand proudly alongside the three LOTR movies.

The 4K source is truly horrid, apart from having to recolor the whole image to bring it up to his standards.

I noticed that the treatment that was done to the digital 3D footage of The Hobbit, was also the same as the 35mm film of TLOTR.

To explain in detail and with captures and examples I will post this video essay which links these comparisons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Z58uiwcME&t=441s

But to sum it up the AI eraser tool DNR, and the level of compression artifacts added to the picture is monumentally abhorrent. I was very surprised by it, due to the fact that The Hobbit was shot digitally.

I think the LOTR 4k version is still okay. I watched it, the audio is great, HDR is great, some of the color grading is better (no green tint in FOTR), and some of the shots do actually look more detailed especially shots where you can see miniatures in the background, you can notice things you never noticed on 1080p. However, I agree that the DNR (less film grain) completely sucks. I love film grain, and the waxy look in many of the shots is unfortunate. I think a color corrected LOTR Blu-ray fan edit would probably be the best way to watch LOTR for me.

As for Hobbit, it never had film grain so it’s not going to have much or any DNR I bet, but I never watched it so maybe you are right it does have problems.

For me, the reasons I don’t want to use the 4k Hobbit as a source are because: have to redo the color grading, I need to upgrade software/hardware/purchase the discs & a new disc drive, and even when I finish most people will still not even want the 4k version because it’s too big of a file. I have done some additional color tweaking in BOTFA in my edit’s next update to help reduce the excessive glowing highlights, so whatever improvements the 4k version made to the look of the films I think my edit at least isn’t left in the dust because I have tried to improve the look as much as possible.

Agreed with the level of quality in regards to the audio file improvements with Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision (though some altered and missing sound effects where lost during the process), there is new detail in wide shots which where not as visible before, but there is also missing bit and pieces which impact the overall feel of the image (Waxy and ultra crisp back around and close-ups). With the colour grading much of the memorial scenes where deliberately changed for cohesion and congruence with the Hobbit, other decisions do rely more on preference.

The truth is that a raw 4K scan according to informants was accomplished for the Panasonic 35mm celluloid film, but the post-processing and meddling of the work was so baldly upgraded that is falls short in what it could have been released in the year 2020. To show off other examples in which our Peter Jackson and team was meddled with 35mm film specifically, you may watch They Shall not Grow Old (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7905466/) or Get Back (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9735318/)

The Hobbit had a bit of grain in the lower number as digital cameras, and yet it was heavily DNR, I recommend you give them a watch. 😃

sidshady12 said:

I think the LOTR 4k version is still okay. I watched it, the audio is great, HDR is great, some of the color grading is better (no green tint in FOTR), and some of the shots do actually look more detailed especially shots where you can see miniatures in the background, you can notice things you never noticed on 1080p. However, I agree that the DNR (less film grain) completely sucks. I love film grain, and the waxy look in many of the shots is unfortunate. I think a color corrected LOTR Blu-ray fan edit would probably be the best way to watch LOTR for me.

As for Hobbit, it never had film grain so it’s not going to have much or any DNR I bet, but I never watched it so maybe you are right it does have problems.

For me, the reasons I don’t want to use the 4k Hobbit as a source are because: have to redo the color grading, I need to upgrade software/hardware/purchase the discs & a new disc drive, and even when I finish most people will still not even want the 4k version because it’s too big of a file. I have done some additional color tweaking in BOTFA in my edit’s next update to help reduce the excessive glowing highlights, so whatever improvements the 4k version made to the look of the films I think my edit at least isn’t left in the dust because I have tried to improve the look as much as possible.

There are color corrected 1080p extended versions of The Fellowship of the Ring and Two Towers. A fellow Ukrainian has been working on them for awhile. (https://rutracker.org/forum/tracker.php?pid=38050461)

¿Have you had a chance to watch the 35mm theatrical scans of the Lord of the Rings? They have been promoted on this forum.

Just wanted to let you know that this is by far the best Hobbit edit that I’ve seen, and has been my go-to. Would you consider making your bonus materials available in a non-blu-ray format? And have you thought about making a more book-faithful LOTR edit as well? The book-edits out there are lower quality and quite old by now.

This edit has been updated. We’re now on…revision 20-or something, latest release is June 2024. Feel free to PM or leave a comment if you would like a link (still same as before)

The story with this update is I re-watched all source footage in the films and all the Appendices footage to give it one last go to see if I had missed anything or if I could improve anything, some scenes in my edit were constructed all the way back in 2020. Not that my previous releases were bad, but I think one last go through everything was deserved and now I can rest easy again knowing that I left no stone unturned. While my changelist is very lengthy, ultimately the new tweaks are extremely minor and the runtime is still the same in the end, and I didn’t end up overhauling anything except for the Last Light scene.

If there is some major breakthrough discovery or vfx creation that could be shared with my project, I will of course consider coming back for another revision, but likely this will not happen.

Full Changelist

• Replaced MGM lion sound effect with a higher quality version from the official Hobbit Blu-rays and tweaked color grading on logo to be more goldish
• Very slightly tweaked color grading on shots of Bilbo early in the morning to make it seem closer to sunrise
• Very slightly tweaked saturation of part 1 to be an additional percent lower after the company leaves Bag End
• Very slightly tweaked color grading for entire edit to further reduce green levels in most area by about 1 percent
• Very slightly tweaked color grading in BOTFA section by reducing excessive highlights which contributed to the bright/bloom look
• Seamlessly cut 2 Troll lines of dialogue, one of which was about boogers, just more silly stuff not needed–we have plenty of jokes still and all of the dialogue that references the book
• Added subtitle translation for the meaning of “Mithrandir” (“Grey Pilgrim”) when Gandalf enters Rivendell, the first chronological time we hear it
• Inserted VFX shot of the Wargs showing up to hunt the company after the Goblin caves with Azog digitally removed (originally by /u/thechaptereditor), this helps the flow from relaxing outside to being attacked and also the flow from day to
  night.
• Slightly retimed Thorin’s 2nd line of added dialogue about an Orc pack and slightly tweaked frames to make a longer pause when they ask how Bilbo got past the goblins, in the book Bilbo purposefully noted that he was going to withhold the news about finding a ring for now so I wanted to pay homage to a little moment where we see him think that
• Inserted a closeup shot of Bilbo on his Eagle. Digitally adjusted background to remove tree and flipped shot to fit the angle/progression of surrounding shots. This is to give us one close up of Bilbo on an Eagle because he’s supposed to be the character POV we are following.
• Adjusted Eagle montage music transition outro to flow more smoothly by adding some reverb
• Used AI to clean up center channel of Beorn turning back into man form
• 1 trim, removed a couple shots before entering Mirkwood to reduce the focus of the Orcs to be a bit closer to the book, now Dwalin’s line is just background dialogue and we don’t outright say it’s “luck” that saved them (it was Beorn)
• 1 trim, cut a few seconds of Mirkwood company confused and dazed. Also, moved the theatrical cut “we’ve lost the path” audio to a few seconds later for smoother placement, plus with better reverb/panning effects
• Swapped shot of Filí’s “having lots of blades joke” when the Elves are searching him with one that fits better
• 2 trims, saved a couple seconds during the Girion flashback, also helping to hide shots that revealed Smaug too much
• 1 trim, removed a couple shots of Bard pondering over the “prophecy,” this dragged on a bit too long given that it’s repeated information
• 2 trims, less pause when Alfrid is questioning the Dwarves
• Added a closeup of Bilbo as the Dwarves depart from Lake-town in the boat, again to remind us we are in Bilbo’s POV
• Inserted extra shots of bored Dwarves imprisoned in Woodland Realm, including an unused shot from the Appendices (Part 9)
• Inserted quick “I am sorry I’ve doubted you” from Thorin to Bilbo when escaping, paying homage to how in the book this is the point where Thorin started to think highly of him. Now Thorin does 3 nice things to Bilbo in Woodland Realm, and the later “Bilbo vouching” scene now feels very earned
• Redid Last Light secret door sequence to better show that the Dwarves didn’t fully disappear (we have close ups of Thorin both standing/reacting to the thrush) and that Bilbo was the one to discover the riddle, this is also cool because we get the symbolic shot of Thorin standing in front of his Grandfather’s statue
• Readded Smaug scene dialogue about “you are being used,” paying homage to Smaug’s deception in the book and helping show why Bilbo might want to withhold the Arkenstone, but it’s never outright specified it’s still up to our interpetation
• Added back Smaug line referencing: “A fourteenth share, I suppose, or something like it…?”
• Added back Smaug line referencing: “No blade can pierce me.”
• Added back Bilbo line referencing: “Truly there can nowhere be found the equal of Lord Smaug…”
• Added back Extended Edition sequence of Bard nearly getting killed by Smaug
• For book accuracy, we see the Master trying to leave on a boat while Bard stays fighting. Digitally removed Alfrid from background. This also clears up how the Master dies when we see his boat crushed by Smaug
• A few more/longer miscellaneous shots of Smaug/Bard/civilian chaos, including an extra couple seconds of Bard looking at the burning town with emotional music to give more weight
• A couple more shots of Bard fighting Smaug, including one other arrow shot that was previously cut (now all are used)
• 1 trim, removed one redundant closeup of Lakemen crying on the beach in the aftermath of Smaug
• 1 trim, less of Bilbo walking around pondering at the front gate, all we need to know is that he is conflicted/struggling inside, the reason we used to focus so much was because this was a segue into flashbacks, which we don’t have here, so the scene is much simpler
• 1 trim, a few seconds less of Bard & men walking into Dale. Also, swapped out unnecessary close up of Alfrid walking with instead a shot of generic townsfolk
• 1 trim, Thorin building stone wall and mocking Lakemen. Cut his last two lines which allows his initial point to feel more valid and empathic, he’s still being stubborn, but not “crazy”
• 1 trim, removed closeup of Gandalf riding horse–fixes continuity as his face wasn’t bloodied in the shot but next time we see him he looks wounded. Also, by teasing him and not showing his face, it makes the audience build more suspense/anticipation for his return
• 1 trim, redundant dialogue of Thranduil/Bard talking about reasoning with the Dwarves. These two lines were quite “in your face” and didn’t give us anything new as they didn’t build on any characterization that we didn’t already know
• 1 trim, Bofur still visually shows he knows Bilbo is not telling the truth, but he no longer rolls his eyes
• 2 trims, less delay when Thorin questions why he should buy back the Arkenstone
• 1 trim, removed just a couple seconds of Gandalf cleaning his pipe, it went on for way too long, don’t worry we still have plenty of silence and emotion in this scene it really was just a couple seconds I cut that you won’t even notice
• Added more rumbling footstep sound effects as Azog arrives to help mask the rocks crunching (which are still played off as 'the Orcs charging out of the tunnel sound)
• Swapped a shot of Bofur reacting to the Orcs with Bilbo reacting, as again, to remind us about Bilbo’s POV as much as we can
• Removed 1 of the 2 close ups of Thranduil killing Orcs on his mount, it was redundant and because we’re making the overall battle shorter, the individual closeups of action can also be shorter
• Added a few more seconds of Thranduil and Dain slashing Orcs before sad montage
• Added a better introduction to the sad montage with a few more shots of Dale being overrun
• 3 trims, Dwalin/Thorin throneroom shot at start, long pause, and removed the part in brackets “we must move {THE GOLD} further underground to safety.” Obviously there is no way a few Dwarves could move the gold further underground, so when we frame it as Thorin wanting to just hide, it both 1) makes him less crazy 2) refocuses his change of heart from mostly letting go of treasure, to now letting go of treasure AND cowardice–so we include more real human characteristics that trace back to Thorin’s own actions: cowardice, something he never used to have, not just an obsession with gold which is more surface level. Obviously his obsession with the treasure is still present, but it was overdone with dragon sickness and this is one very minor change that I think makes a big difference.
• Added a cut Dwalin line taken from the BOTFA trailer, “Bilbo was right,” referencing our little Hobbit is always nice, it also reminds us that the Dwarves are still thinking about him/his impact, and finally it highlights that Bilbo’s actions are part of the reason that Thorin returned and ultimately changed the course of the battle (once again, the trend of small actions by everyday folk that cause significant impact)
• Redid Misty Mountains montage to remove the 2 random shots of fighting and smooth out Gandalf’s intercuts, this helps us stay focused on our mission and feels more natural
• Removed cartoon sound effect when Bombur falls on an Orc
• Added back 1 shot of Thorin looking concerned before Filí is captured which helps it feel less sudden
• Added back 1 shot of Filí after he is killed to extend the moment as long as possible
• Redid intercutting of Thorin & Kíli fighting Orcs to use soundtrack and transitions closer to the Shore’s actual OST
• Added back 1 shot of Kíli fighting Orcs to help balance with how much we see Thorin fighting
• Redid Thorin getting knocked onto the ice so you can’t tell his sword was originally broken, added sound effects implying he killed the Orc, and removed Azog’s dialogue (we didn’t need the classic villain telling his minions to “go in for the kill” which we know won’t work + Thorin isn’t ambushed here)
• Added back 1 shot of Thorin on his knee at his lowest point after Kíli dies, but digitally removed Orcrist from the shot to help hide the weapon change as much as possible
• Added a second brief “sad montage” right after Orc reinforcements arrive to remind us that the other heroes are still fighting (it’s not all just about Thorin, now we are now losing again, war is not glorious, also helps us come to a low point before the Eagles show up like the book)
• Removed the duel on ice, instead we skip to the Eagles showing up after our sad montage and then intercut a brief rescored fight between Thorin/Azog during the Eagles/Beorn montage (saves runtime, less focus on weapon continuity errors, battle doesn’t drag on, less ‘video game boss’ like)
• Redid Thorin’s knockdown with a close up of ice as we hear Thorin get knocked down in the background and a cut to a wide shot of him on his back where I digitally removed most of the flying ice shards (before then returning to the close up of him on the ground)
• A few small trims during the final moments of Azog/Thorin duel to move through it quicker by just a few seconds
• Used AI to cleanup on of Bilbo’s rescored lines during goodbye to Gandalf scene
• (Special Features) Removed PJ cameo in Bree, it was too similar to LOTR and we already got a cameo in the Erebor flashback that comes right before
• (Special Features) Added back dialogue in the Bree scene about the last Dwarvish ring, as this is referenced in the Quest for Erebor text and serves as a nice segue into the White Council scene, where Gandalf mentions it
• (Special Features) Removed extra dialogue in Bree about Thráin “still living” so it is left as more of a subtle point rather than something really important (because we never pay it off in my version, here we assume Gandalf already found Thráin dead in Dol Guldur like the book)
• (Special Features) Removed mention in the White Council of the bearer of the last Dwarvish ring vanishing, as in this version we assume Gandalf already had found Thráin and he just learned in Bree that Thráin would have had it (but clearly didn’t when Gandalf found him)
• (Special Features) Added back dialogue about the Ring of Power into the Dol Guldur post-credit scene to help tie in The Hobbit with LOTR
• (Special Features) Redid trailer entirely to be mostly realistic to what a real single-film trailer could have been like, without spoilers

sidshady12 said:

• Inserted quick “I am sorry I’ve doubted you” from Thorin to Bilbo when escaping, paying homage to how in the book this is the point where Thorin started to think highly of him. Now Thorin does 3 nice things to Bilbo in Woodland Realm, and the later “Bilbo vouching” scene now feels very earned

• 3 trims, Dwalin/Thorin throneroom shot at start, long pause, and removed the part in brackets “we must move {THE GOLD} further underground to safety.” Obviously there is no way a few Dwarves could move the gold further underground, so when we frame it as Thorin wanting to just hide, it both 1) makes him less crazy 2) refocuses his change of heart from mostly letting go of treasure, to now letting go of treasure AND cowardice–so we include more real human characteristics that trace back to Thorin’s own actions: cowardice, something he never used to have, not just an obsession with gold which is more surface level. Obviously his obsession with the treasure is still present, but it was overdone with dragon sickness and this is one very minor change that I think makes a big difference.
• Added a cut Dwalin line taken from the BOTFA trailer, “Bilbo was right,” referencing our little Hobbit is always nice, it also reminds us that the Dwarves are still thinking about him/his impact, and finally it highlights that Bilbo’s actions are part of the reason that Thorin returned and ultimately changed the course of the battle (once again, the trend of small actions by everyday folk that cause significant impact)

These are good and important changes! - already downloaded the latest version

I finally watched the new updated version. I never thought it was possible, but you really surpassed your already perfect work. This is 100% the definitive way to see the Hobbit.

Also, ever since the 2023 update, I’ve been revisiting the italian subtitles and I made sure they match with the italian dub (aside from a few cases where there were some transaltion mistakes in the dub itself, which I rectified). If you’re interested, I could send you my .srt file, in case you want to add it as an optional download in your MEGA folder.

Speaking of which, I was actually trying (for my own fun) to make subtitles for the extra stuff but I’m a little confused with the Dol Guldur scene. Is it Gandalf or Saruman the one who’s chanting in the background at the beginning? Also, which lenguage is it, elvish?

DMed all.

And thanks! Glad you enjoy the update. Please send me the new Italian subs on discord or email (see my website), and I’d be happy to put them in the Mega folder and bundled in the MKV. Will probably reupload mkv in a couple months so I can give time for anyone else to tweak foreign subtitles if they notice any issues.

Also, Gandalf is saying a spell in Elvish at the beginning, but keeping in line with the other subtitles you don’t have to transcribe in-universe languages unless they have been translated on screen (like Azog dialogue), even english speakers don’t know what he’s saying. The only exception is for closed captions which will have something like (SPEAKING ELVISH)

Thanks. I’ll send the subtitles soon as I can, though maybe I’ll try to test them one last time. I knew Gandalf’s incantation in the post-credit was not translated by chocie but I still wanted to be sure (also, is it always Gandalf? For some reason I thought it was Saruman at the beginning). Thing is, the subtitles file I made is like a mix between nromal and closed captions: I removed every instance of subtitles “explaining the noises” but I kept the ones about characters speaking another language, so at least viewers have some sort of context even if the dalogue is not translated. For the same reason, I also made sure to keep every intance of subtitles mentioning who is speaking off-screen. EDIT: Subtitles sent.

Hey! I first watched your edit a couple of years back and I absolutely loved it. I am extremely grateful for the passion and hard work you have put into this, and to see you have continued tweaking and editing until recently is astonishing. Would it be possible to receive a link to the most recent version? It would be great to watch it with a friend of mine who has only just recently discovered Middle-Earth.

Thanks again!

PMed all. Thanks for the support

Still happy with the cut, no plans for further tweaks

Just to be sure, have you recieved the updated italian subtitles I sent you? I realzied it’s been a while since I sent them and I don’t recall ever hearing from you after that.