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eliasbboy
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Info & Info Wanted: Godfather 1 and 2 Chronoligical version edit project?
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4-Dec-2005, 9:48 PM
Wow. This never really did die, did it. I have the Laserdiscs, and would be more than happy to help this project. Like was mentioned before, my prehistoric LD player is unfortunately not up to the task.

http://www.valflix.com/images/LYoungLasersGodFatherTrilogy1428.JPG

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Also, for the record, here is the differences between the Epic, Saga, and DVD versions:


The "GF Epic" is 1 and 2 edited in chronological order:

"THE GODFATHER EPIC 1902-1959:

Scenes added to The Godfather (1972):

Michael and Kay pretend to be in New Hampshire to get away, even though they're in New York. The scene is the two of them in a hotel bed, getting a wake-up call at 3 PM. They're supposed to go to the Corleone residence, but Michael doesn't want to go yet. He calls the mansion (Orchard-9-9539) and Kay pretends to be the long distance operator. Michael tells Tom that they're "stuck in New Hampshire." This scene occurs before Fredo gets the car for the Don.

When Michael is hiding in Sicily, there's a scene where Michael and his two bodyguards are laying down to rest. Fabrizzio wants Michael to tell him about New York. M:"How do you know I'm from New York?" / F:"We heard. Somebody told us you were real important" / M:"I'm the son of a big shot" / F:"Is America as rich as they say?" / C:"Stop bothering me [Calo] with this rich America stuff!" Fabrizzio asks Michael if he could be his bodyguard in America. This scene comes before their meeting Apollonia.

After Apollonia gets killed in the explosion, there's a short scene of Michael, in shock and in bed, muttering to Tommasino & Apollonia's mother: "Apollonia..?" / T:"Dead" / "Fabrizzio..? Get me Fabrizzio..."

When Michael returns to New York, before he meets up with Kay, he and his father talk in the garden. Michael: "Pop, what about Sonny? What about Sicily? ...You gave them your word about breaking the peace, I didn't. I take all responsibility."

(The Trilogy set adds even more footage!)
Scenes added to The Godfather Part II (1974):

After Paolo gets shot, 2 of Don Ciccio's thugs arrive at young Vito's home looking for him. She says she'll take him herself

There's a scene before Vito gets fired from Abbandando Grosseria: While Vito's delivering groceries, he sees three punks over on 9th Street assaulting Fanucci, and they cut his throat "from ear to ear...to scare him." Genco and Vito chat in the store. Vito says Fanucci's not a big shot. Genco says Fanucci has connections. The next time we see Fanucci, he's fine!

After the new carpet is installed, young Vito, Clemenza and Tessio meet up with a gunsmith, Augustino Coppola, and his young son, Carmine Coppola [sound familiar?]. This is where Clemenza sells his guns. The boy Carmine is the one playing the flute, NOT "young Vito" as the caption in the Soundtrack claims

We then see young Clemenza is hocking stolen dresses door-to-door for $5 a piece. He makes one married woman an offer (two for one), and even fools around with her. Clemenza tells Vito to bring the rest of the dresses to Dadine's Store, who'll turn it over the the wholesaler. While driving is when Fanucci hops aboard.

After Signor Roberto lowers Signora Colombo's rent, Vito sees Clemenza, who found a kid good with cars, to fix the truck. His name is Hyman Suchowsky, but Clemenza calls him "Johnny Lips." His name is then changed to Hyman Rothstien [sound familiar? Later it's Hyman Roth]

In a trip back to Sicily, young Vito finds and kills two of Don Ciccio's retainers (Strollo and ?) before he goes with Tommasino to kill Don Ciccio.

At the Communion party, Sonny's daughter, Francesca, comes to see Michael for his blessing to marry Gardner Shaw. He also asks how Santino's football is coming.

Then there's a scene in which Al Neri is talking to Michael (with Tom & Rocco) and they are looking at pictures of Fabrizzio. He was brought over illegally from Sicily by Barzini.

After Michael's meeting with Sen. Geary, we see Fabrizzio ("Fred Vincent"), leaving his pizzeria in Buffalo, NY, and getting firebombed in his car. He stumbles out of the car, before he dies.

Is this in Part II? Michael and his bodyguard take a train to Florida. [heh...a train?! I thought he was in a hurry!]

(The Trilogy set adds even more footage!)
Missing from The Godfather Epic (why?!):

The scene after Vito gets fired, when Abbandando offers him groceries to take home, is omitted

Not missing, but moved: The first scene of Part II (Rocco kissing Michael's hand) was moved to the beginning of the Epic




The "GF Trilogy" is all 3 edited in chronological order. Essentially, a slightly different edit of the "Epic" with GF3 tacked on to the end.

"THE GODFATHER TRILOGY: 1901-1980"


* Additional Footage! *


Added to The Godfather

Michael and Kay pretend to be in New Hampshire to get away, even though they're in New York. The scene is the two of them in a hotel bed, getting a wake-up call at 3 PM. They're supposed to go to the Corleone residence, but Michael doesn't want to go yet. He calls the mansion (Orchard-9-9539) and Kay pretends to be the long distance operator. Michael tells Tom that they're "stuck in New Hampshire." This scene occurs before Fredo gets the car for the Don. (This was also in the Epic)

When Michael is hiding in Sicily, there's a scene where Michael and his two bodyguards are laying down to rest. Fabrizzio wants Michael to tell him about New York. M:"How do you know I'm from New York?" / F:"We heard. Somebody told us you were real important" / M:"I'm the son of a big shot" / F:"Is America as rich as they say?" / C:"Stop bothering me [Calo] with this rich America stuff!" Fabrizzio asks Michael if he could be his bodyguard in America. This scene comes before their meeting Apollonia. (This was also in the Epic)

After Apollonia gets killed in the explosion, there's a short scene of Michael, in shock and in bed, muttering to Tommasino & Apollonia's mother: "Apollonia..?" / T:"Dead" / "Fabrizzio..? Get me Fabrizzio..." (This was also in the Epic)

After The Don tells Tom he's to go to California, Tom tells him that the hospital called and the dying Consiglieri Genco won't last the night

After Connie's wedding reception, The Don, his sons, and Johnny Fontane go to the hospital to pay their respects to Genco

Before Woltz and Tom start talking, Woltz presents his nymphette girl, Janie, with a birthday pony. Her mother is there. (We can see them in GF1, however)

After Tom leaves Woltz, he's walking to the exit and sees Janie, crying at the top of the staircase, being retrieved by her mother.

There's some short extra footage of Luca Brasi going to meet with the Tattaglia's

After the Don is shot, Sonny gets a phone call from a detective telling him about it. Sonny then tries to call Tom, but Theresa says he isn't home.

After Sonny gets the call from Sollozzo, he goes to tells Carmella that the Don's been shot. He then calls up Tessio to get 50 of his men over. He tries to call Luca, but he's not there

There's some short extra footage of Michael in the car arriving at the mall

After Michael meets Clemenza "he's gonna pull through, thank God," he asks Theresa about Tom. The two of them go in to see Sonny (who's with Tessio). Tom enters the room.

Before Clemenza leaves the house with Paulie, he and Rocco talk about Clemenza's car. Clemenza gives Rocco the gun he's to use to "make his bones" by killing Paulie.

After they leave Clemenza's driveway, we see them make a stop "to call Sonny." Clemenza eats a meal and buys cannoli while Rocco and Paulie wait in the car.

In Sicily, after Michael tells Tommasino that they're going to Corleone, Michael and his bodyguards see a procession of what appears to be Communists marching through the hills

There's some short extra footage of Michael and bodyguards walking through Corleone, before he says "where have all the men gone?"

Before they're on the road as the GIs pass by, Michael visits his father's birthplace (house) and he asks a woman if there are any family/friends of the Andolini's around. She says they've all left and gone overseas.

At Connie & Carlo's, after Connie hangs up the phone, she walks into the bathroom where Carlo is showering. She confronts him about the "whore" which he blows off, and tells her to make him dinner. The subsequent footage is slightly tailored to fit the standard scene, and a couple of extra lines are added where they weren't before.

Before Tom asks Michael "why am I out?" there's some short extra footage. There's also some after Michael says "you're out Tom." These two short scenes talk about Al Neri.

Added to The Godfather Part II

After Paolo gets shot, 2 of Don Ciccio's thugs arrive at young Vito's home looking for him. She says she'll take him herself (This was also in the Epic)

There's a scene before Vito gets fired from Abbandando Grosseria: While Vito's delivering groceries, he sees three punks over on 9th Street assaulting Fanucci, and they cut his throat "from ear to ear...to scare him." Genco and Vito chat in the store. Vito says Fanucci's not a big shot. Genco says Fanucci has connections. The next time we see Fanucci, he's fine! (This was also in the Epic)

After the new carpet is installed, young Vito, Clemenza and Tessio meet up with a gunsmith, Augustino Coppola, and his young son, Carmine Coppola [sound familiar?]. This is where Clemenza sells his guns. The boy Carmine is the one playing the flute, NOT "young Vito" as the caption in the Soundtrack claims (This was also in the Epic)

We then see young Clemenza is hocking stolen dresses door-to-door for $5 a piece. He makes one married woman an offer (two for one), and even fools around with her. Clemenza tells Vito to bring the rest of the dresses to Dadine's Store, who'll turn it over the the wholesaler. While driving is when Fanucci hops aboard. (This was also in the Epic)

After Signor Roberto lowers Signora Colombo's rent, Vito sees Clemenza, who found a kid good with cars, to fix the truck. His name is Hyman Suchowsky, but Clemenza calls him "Johnny Lips." His name is then changed to Hyman Rothstien [sound familiar? Later it's Hyman Roth] (This was also in the Epic)

In a trip back to Sicily, young Vito finds and kills two of Don Ciccio's retainers (Strollo and ?) before he goes with Tommasino to kill Don Ciccio. (This was also in the Epic)

At the Communion party, Sonny's daughter, Francesca, comes to see Michael for his blessing to marry Gardner Shaw. He also asks how Santino's football is coming. (This was also in the Epic)

Then there's a scene in which Al Neri is talking to Michael (with Tom & Rocco) and they are looking at pictures of Fabrizzio. He was brought over illegally from Sicily by Barzini. (This was also in the Epic)

After Michael's meeting with Sen. Geary, we see Fabrizzio ("Fred Vincent"), leaving his pizzeria in Buffalo, NY, and getting firebombed in his car. He stumbles out of the car, before he dies. (This was also in the Epic)

There's added footage at the beginning of the scene where young Vito and Clemenza are drinking coffee, talking about the carpet

There's added footage at the end of Fanucci's talk with young Vito in the truck. This leads directly to the following:

There's added footage at the beginning of the scene where young Vito, Clemenza and Tessio are eating spaghetti and Vito's house

There's added footage at the beginning of young Vito's meeting with Signora Colombo

There's added footage at the end of young Vito's talk with Signor Roberto

There's added footage before we see Signor Roberto at young Vito's office. We see him enter through the garage area.

At the beginning of Anthony's party, we see Fredo and Deanna in the parking lot. Deanna is already drunk and Fredo doesn't want Michael to see her that way

There's added footage leading up to Pentangeli drinking from the garden hose we see him doing before he sees Fredo

There's added footage of singing on the grandstand, and in the parking lot. We also see Anthony walking up to the buttomen, and stopping as Kay calls after him

We see Pentangeli sitting and drinking wine with Anthony. He gives Anthony a $100 bill

We see Al Neri visiting Klingman at the casino, and kicking him out


Added to The Godfather III:

[nothing noted]

Missing from The Godfather Trilogy (why?!):

When Michael returns to New York, before he meets up with Kay, he and his father talk in the garden. Michael: "Pop, what about Sonny? What about Sicily? ...You gave them your word about breaking the peace, I didn't. I take all responsibility." [from The Epic]

Anthony's First Communion ceremony in the church

The very first few lines of Michael's Senate testimony: "New York City"/"Would you mind speaking up please"/"New York City"