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Can I have a link, please?

“Vader! Hologram, now!”

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Peter Pan said:

Can I have a link, please?

Yes. Ask me in private. 😃
An update version with a slightly better quality video is being output right now.

We’ll cross the bridge when we get there

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The Acolyte’s Corcoran Cut - Version 1.3 - from better compressed files.

Now available in these formats:

.MKV H265 (2.6gig)
.m4v H264 (9gig)
Master QT (21gig)

Available on demand.

The mix is stereo, but honestly, with AI surround available on the newest home cinema receivers it works like a charm.

Ask here, or find more info on Reddit, or moviesremastered.com
Here is the movie profile, with the poster.
https://www.moviesremastered.com/movieinfo.php?id=10773

And leave your review here, on Reddit, or MRDB

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Some of you gave me some feedback, mostly great comments, and I’m glad everyone seem to enjoy my cut of The Acolyte…

The main point to improve - and I was feeling the same, but I was kinda let it go… lol … - is the transitions both in and out of the second flashback… I think I fixed it.

So… well… There will be a V1.4 soon available… This site, and Reddit, is very useful to improve our work. Personally it was the last of the issue that I have - had. Next, maybe my cut would need a 5.1 mix, but I don’t have time anymore for that now… And seriously, the new home-theater receiver and their AI surround option works like a charm for the stereo mix.

To be continued! Don’t forget to leave a review here or on moviesremastered.
The Acolyte’s Corcoran Cut profil:
https://www.moviesremastered.com/movieinfo.php?id=10773
Thank you very much for your support!
Marc JC

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Okay, this was my first time watching the Acolyte period, and I must say this was fantastic. I had seen the reviews on youtube and know most of the controversies but had not sat down and watched it in full yet, and honestly was ready for this to be terrible even after all the editing and was very pleasantly surprised.

First I will start with cons:

  • The movie is very long, but shorter then LOTR extended or Oppenheimer and I’m not sure the story would work if it was not this long and the edit keeps the pace going at a very quick pace. Just a lot to tell.
  • Spoiler: Didn’t love the after credit seen, Yoda not knowing about this (and who knows what the conversation was going to be with him, maybe he isn’t told anything and I fully understand why it needed to be there to help it stay in line with story being told in cannon)

Now for a TON of Pros:

  • Made the power of one, the power of two, the power of many scene feel like star wars: the clone wars in live action. Didn’t think that was savable from what I had seen of it but it totally worked
  • Implied nudity was heavily adjusted, and no longer there for the sake of being there. Qimir seemed to do what he did not to show off sexually but to show he was truly disarmed and show the audience his back.
  • Qimir seemed like a surprise, my family who knew nothing about the show was shocked. Can’t say I felt that way even in watching the youtube reviews. His introduction was simple and his reveal worked very well as you don’t spend weeks and hours of watching where it becomes easy to put together.
  • Jedi Deaths off screen brings a much higher level of mystery and make the deaths so much more meaningful. Having the one Jedi found being dead by poison and no lead up was amazing, and you felt like you where learning what was going on with Osha and Sol. It also made the Wookie Jedi death happening off screen make total sense.
  • Making Sol the main character was perfect! It worked so well with the actors performance and gave character depth to both Sol and Osha. Everyone else was a little shallow but that is fine when they are supporting characters.
  • Osha killing Sol made sense, her world was flipped and she reacted in rage and the cut makes it very clear that she was going in to be the hero and when confronted by part of the truth that was held from her she attacked the man that she blamed for that. It also made it very clear that Osha does not and will not have the full story making her easy to manipulate and make fall to the dark side. Seeing Qimir manipulate her paints him as the bad guy and Sol as the victim. Many criticized the show saying it made the Jedi look evil, and this did not feel that way, this made it look like good people made wrong choices with right intensions and that in any organization there will always be people using their power incorrectly. With the witches we see it with the 2nd mother, in the jedi we see it with the Green Jedi who is trying to cover up her own padawn failing all while Sol is truly trying to do what is right for Osha.
  • Mae flip flopping made sense (I’m sure in the original most would be like “didn’t she just say in the last episode she was going to turn her self in? And now she is trying to kill Sol again?”) where as in this one she says I’m turning my self in, then realizes there is no way she can out run her master and watches him kill a full group of Jedi single handed, is told by the master he will kill her, meets up with her sister she thought was dead this whole time, and then sees the opportunity to kill the man she thinks caused all of this for happening in the first place. Its messy but life is messy and this feels a lot more logical and the way this was cut I didn’t feel it was much of stretch at all
  • Sol figures out it is not Osha with him almost right away, yeah makes total sense he is a jedi, and from what we have been shown a pretty dang good one.
  • Ki-Adi-Mundi involvement felt like a cameo and didn’t ruin anything in Episode 1. He is there, knows jedi are dying, and knows they need to keep things internal as they suspect a Jedi has gone rouge and nothing is mentioned of a sith. And as far as he is ever made aware that is exactly what happened. Sol messed up and didn’t want anyone to know, case closed.
  • The way it ends it leaves me thinking that Qimir is the Acolyte not Mae or Osha with the dark Plagus cameo at the end which fits the rest of star wars very well. Darth Maul felt cast off so he gets his own apprentice and desires to become a rival to Sidus. Count Dukoo has Ventress and to test his loyalty is asked to kill her as she is growing to powerful. Darth Vader wanted Luke to be able to over throw the emperor. We also know in Legends that Plagus’s master had multiple apprentices that he would have fight each other this could be the same.
  • Loved how Mae’s mind wipe was done! Made total sense for the story and has me hoping for a sequel where I will once again just watch your edit of instead of the whole series.
  • Transitions felt very star wars and had 0 issues there
  • Music felt spot on and at no point did it not feel that it was cut together.

Final Thoughts:

This felt like a tragedy, a very good person caught in a situation they didn’t understand and forced to make the choice he thought was best. It also shows how there really is no such thing as a personal choice, even when you are trying to be selfless it will effect others in ways you would never dream of. This all comes through loud and clear and feels very Star Wars! As one who grew up with the prequel movies this movie felt like it very much could be the same world and, in this case, universe as those movies. Very well done!

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Okay, this was my first time watching the Acolyte period, and I must say this was fantastic. I had seen the reviews on youtube and know most of the controversies but had not sat down and watched it in full yet, and honestly was ready for this to be terrible even after all the editing and was very pleasantly surprised.

Wow! First of all, I wasn’t ready for that love, and thank you Gbroyce for your detailed review and you impressions about my interpretation fanedit fanfix, whatever we wanna call it! Seeing how the fanedit community is strong and active, Disney should buy some to create a fanedit section on D+! lol!

First I will start with cons:

  • The movie is very long, but shorter then LOTR extended or Oppenheimer and I’m not sure the story would work if it was not this long and the edit keeps the pace going at a very quick pace. Just a lot to tell.
  • Spoiler: Didn’t love the after credit seen, Yoda not knowing about this (and who knows what the conversation was going to be with him, maybe he isn’t told anything and I fully understand why it needed to be there to help it stay in line with story being told in cannon)

This is indeed long, I would’ve wanted to cut more, honestly, make a 2hrs15-20min… But while I was editing I had to think about character development and keep many scenes as breather, and moments through which the characters interact with each other - tension and release in screenwriting, we call it - But always in taking of : is this breather also useful for the plot, etc…

Well, the post credit scene, indeed, it’s a node really, only a node, not useful, so I kept it, but only for the very end… where no one goes!!! lol

Now for a TON of Pros:

  • Made the power of one, the power of two, the power of many scene feel like star wars: the clone wars in live action. Didn’t think that was savable from what I had seen of it but it totally worked

Indeed, I cut the musical only, an one tribal shouting from a woman front stage…

  • Implied nudity was heavily adjusted, and no longer there for the sake of being there. Qimir seemed to do what he did not to show off sexually but to show he was truly disarmed and show the audience his back.

I didn’t cut that much, but apparently where it matters. lol…

  • Qimir seemed like a surprise, my family who knew nothing about the show was shocked. Can’t say I felt that way even in watching the youtube reviews. His introduction was simple and his reveal worked very well as you don’t spend weeks and hours of watching where it becomes easy to put together.

Yeah… I took out one scene on Khofar, which was too much in your face “foreshadowing”

  • Jedi Deaths off screen brings a much higher level of mystery and make the deaths so much more meaningful. Having the one Jedi found being dead by poison and no lead up was amazing, and you felt like you where learning what was going on with Osha and Sol. It also made the Wookie Jedi death happening off screen make total sense.

Because Tobin dies off screen, Kelnacca’s death isn’t surprising… The narrative device was established earlier with Torbin

  • Making Sol the main character was perfect! It worked so well with the actors performance and gave character depth to both Sol and Osha. Everyone else was a little shallow but that is fine when they are supporting characters.

The tragedy of Sol is what frames the narrative… By centering the plot around him, it gives more nuance to the twins, strangely… By seeing them less, they become more important for Sol demise…

  • Osha killing Sol made sense, her world was flipped and she reacted in rage and the cut makes it very clear that she was going in to be the hero and when confronted by part of the truth that was held from her she attacked the man that she blamed for that. It also made it very clear that Osha does not and will not have the full story making her easy to manipulate and make fall to the dark side. Seeing Qimir manipulate her paints him as the bad guy and Sol as the victim. Many criticized the show saying it made the Jedi look evil, and this did not feel that way, this made it look like good people made wrong choices with right intensions and that in any organization there will always be people using their power incorrectly. With the witches we see it with the 2nd mother, in the jedi we see it with the Green Jedi who is trying to cover up her own padawn failing all while Sol is truly trying to do what is right for Osha.

That’S why I chose the tagline “Noble intentions can have dire consequences” … that only phrase dictates all the choices made for this recut.

  • Mae flip flopping made sense (I’m sure in the original most would be like “didn’t she just say in the last episode she was going to turn her self in? And now she is trying to kill Sol again?”) where as in this one she says I’m turning my self in, then realizes there is no way she can out run her master and watches him kill a full group of Jedi single handed, is told by the master he will kill her, meets up with her sister she thought was dead this whole time, and then sees the opportunity to kill the man she thinks caused all of this for happening in the first place. Its messy but life is messy and this feels a lot more logical and the way this was cut I didn’t feel it was much of stretch at all

I’m glad you see it that way. It’s still something that I’m struggling with, but I can’t rewrite the show. lol

  • Sol figures out it is not Osha with him almost right away, yeah makes total sense he is a jedi, and from what we have been shown a pretty dang good one.

Yeah, they embrace, all that time talking in the ship, that was too much… Sol not seeing who the stranger is that’s fine, he is the villain, powerful, with that helmet… But May disguised as Osha? That why I kept the long shot on Sol, realizing what is happening, then he walks quickly towards the cockpit, boum…

  • Ki-Adi-Mundi involvement felt like a cameo and didn’t ruin anything in Episode 1. He is there, knows jedi are dying, and knows they need to keep things internal as they suspect a Jedi has gone rouge and nothing is mentioned of a sith. And as far as he is ever made aware that is exactly what happened. Sol messed up and didn’t want anyone to know, case closed.
  • The way it ends it leaves me thinking that Qimir is the Acolyte not Mae or Osha with the dark Plagus cameo at the end which fits the rest of star wars very well. Darth Maul felt cast off so he gets his own apprentice and desires to become a rival to Sidus. Count Dukoo has Ventress and to test his loyalty is asked to kill her as she is growing to powerful. Darth Vader wanted Luke to be able to over throw the emperor. We also know in Legends that Plagus’s master had multiple apprentices that he would have fight each other this could be the same.

Nice remarks

  • Loved how Mae’s mind wipe was done! Made total sense for the story and has me hoping for a sequel where I will once again just watch your edit of instead of the whole series.

I thought by removing that scene under the tree, was a way of putting the audience in her shoes, she doesn’t remember!!! Only glimpses, for the audience to understand what really happened, maybe… without feeding the audience…

  • Transitions felt very star wars and had 0 issues there
  • Music felt spot on and at no point did it not feel that it was cut together.

NICE!!! I worked a lot on those new musical transition. 😉

Final Thoughts:

This felt like a tragedy, a very good person caught in a situation they didn’t understand and forced to make the choice he thought was best. It also shows how there really is no such thing as a personal choice, even when you are trying to be selfless it will effect others in ways you would never dream of. This all comes through loud and clear and feels very Star Wars! As one who grew up with the prequel movies this movie felt like it very much could be the same world and, in this case, universe as those movies. Very well done!

I’m really grateful for that review, especially coming from someone who haven’t seen the entire series yet… I was curious to get that opinion from someone who is entirely biaised by having watched the series first!

Thank you very much!!!

We’ll cross the bridge when we get there

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Not sure if somebody mentioned that to you already, but im like 5 minutes in now and during Indara’s death (the knive throw) the audio seems to be doubled (?). You can hear the alien gasp twice.

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Peter Pan said:

Not sure if somebody mentioned that to you already, but im like 5 minutes in now and during Indara’s death (the knive throw) the audio seems to be doubled (?). You can hear the alien gasp twice.

Thanks for the remarks. It’s the knife off screen that you hear, two distinct sound, a few frame later we cut to Indara who has the knife in her chest… 😃

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MathisMando said:

Peter Pan said:

Not sure if somebody mentioned that to you already, but im like 5 minutes in now and during Indara’s death (the knive throw) the audio seems to be doubled (?). You can hear the alien gasp twice.

Thanks for the remarks. It’s the knife off screen that you hear, two distinct sound, a few frame later we cut to Indara who has the knife in her chest… 😃

Oh, gotcha… indeed… well, it is subtle… He could have reacted when the knife is threw and when he “almost” receive it. I did something similar on purpose when we hear Osha shouting Moma! … then a second time Moma… When she sees her mother dead on the ground. I wanted to imply that she sees her off screen just before the cut.
Maybe I’ll ouptput a V1.5… lol

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The reviews on the web (MR, Reddit, here) are great so far!!! The experiment consisting in rearranging the continuity, fixing the pacing by cutting down some dialogues and scenes, and center the story around Sol to make a classical tragedy structure seem to bear fruits. People here, on MR and Reddit leave fantastic comments and a few gave me some feedback which allowed me to improve some parts. Thank you everyone! I will be distributing links for a few days, but soon my official work will take over! And I’ll be less responsive. Sry in advance.

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Could I get a link please?

“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” — Obi-Wan Kenobi

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“Possible bad English disclaimer down below 😃

I watched the original series on Disney and all available fanedits (available until 17th august, 2024).

This edit makes the series feel better in every possible way. If you are an English speaker, you definitely want to watch this edit.

Pros:

  • proffesional editing skills (no visible audio or video cuts)
  • professional understanding of “story writing” and overall story flow
  • the majority of cringe dialogues and unlogical character decisions are gone (or just feel better thanks to edit)
  • much more cohesive story, nothing important miss, but the majority of fluff is cut out

Cons

  • lenght, IMHO some scenes or dialogues could be cut out without impact on story or characters (scenes from the flashbacks especially)
  • only available in 1080p
  • no subtitles

Comparison to other fanedits:
You have to realise, that this edit is focused on the character of the new protagonist in SW universe - Sol. His story is edited in the chronological order with some well placed flashbacks. The feeling of the mysterious detective investigation is gone because of this approach. As an editor you have to choose just one approach to editing, so this is not a con, it is the thing you have to consider first if you are looking for Acolyte edit. If you rather want to watch an edit more focused on the investigation, try the Fallen Order edit (edit with other pros and cons - IMHO worse story flow and storywriting decisions, but still worth of your time)

In conclusion this is the best Acolyte edit available now. If you are a fan of SW Legends give it a try - it is a way better than original show

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This is such a great review! Thank you Gweilo for your kind words.
I might output a 4K version with subtiles in the future but I can’t promise anything.
I left you a PM, but know that your review pro and cons, is our only pay as faneditor. Thank you very much!
Cheers!

Gweilo said:

“Possible bad English disclaimer down below 😃

I watched the original series on Disney and all available fanedits (available until 17th august, 2024).

This edit makes the series feel better in every possible way. If you are an English speaker, you definitely want to watch this edit.

Pros:

  • proffesional editing skills (no visible audio or video cuts)
  • professional understanding of “story writing” and overall story flow
  • the majority of cringe dialogues and unlogical character decisions are gone (or just feel better thanks to edit)
  • much more cohesive story, nothing important miss, but the majority of fluff is cut out

Cons

  • lenght, IMHO some scenes or dialogues could be cut out without impact on story or characters (scenes from the flashbacks especially)
  • only available in 1080p
  • no subtitles

Comparison to other fanedits:
You have to realise, that this edit is focused on the character of the new protagonist in SW universe - Sol. His story is edited in the chronological order with some well placed flashbacks. The feeling of the mysterious detective investigation is gone because of this approach. As an editor you have to choose just one approach to editing, so this is not a con, it is the thing you have to consider first if you are looking for Acolyte edit. If you rather want to watch an edit more focused on the investigation, try the Fallen Order edit (edit with other pros and cons - IMHO worse story flow and storywriting decisions, but still worth of your time)

In conclusion this is the best Acolyte edit available now. If you are a fan of SW Legends give it a try - it is a way better than original show

We’ll cross the bridge when we get there

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The Acolyte CANCELLED… A Corcoran cut V1.5 will be in order

It is sad. But it was predictable. However, my cut was edited with a season two in mind. Some rearrangements, cuts, will be in order to make The Acolyte experience as a standalone feature film… more to come on that front…

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I’m assuming you will be removing the Yoda cameo? I’d be wary of removing the Plagueis cameo, because at least that explains how Quimir and Osha are screwed.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I’m assuming you will be removing the Yoda cameo? I’d be wary of removing the Plagueis cameo, because at least that explains how Quimir and Osha are screwed.

You’re right. Yoda out. But Plagueis is cool just before the credits roll indeed, for the reason you mention. 😃. And the link between Vernestra and Q’mir doesn’t make sense now in a standalone story… it was setting up season 2…

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Sad that Disney canceled it, I really liked seeing a different time period and some new characters. I would definitely keep Plagueis and cut Yoda. Maybe you can cut Osha saying she will try to find her sister at the end. I would also fix that doubled knife audio in the beginning fight.

Would you consider adding a classic star wars crawl? The pan down to the surface may be hard since the text is over top of the pan, but maybe a new planet shot could be created to pan down from. Can’t wait for the new version!

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I have not personally watched anything related to the Acolyte yet. However, as I skimmed through some of the changes for the edits of the show, I noticed only the editor Movies Remastered made any hardcore visual and audio edits.

Did you ever consider incorporating some of those into your own (with proper credit provided)?

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fidodido said:

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MathisMando said:

Like you, probably - if you are a SW fans or love to hate SW -, I watched The Acolyte, very uneasy,

Not like me, no unease at all.

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besides all the politics and the modern ideology that gets in the way of good storytelling,

Politics! In Star Wars! Gosh, Lucas must be turning in his chair!

Especially as, compared to other shows like Andor or TCW, Acolyte has basically zero political dimension beyond a small segment of showing the stagnation of the Jedi Order. Unless by ‘politics and the modern ideology’ you’re getting at something else that should probably be spelt out in the open…

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to which Disney seems to thinks that telling SW stories through TV series is still a good idea (Skeleton Crew, and so on until…)

It is a fantastic idea; Ewoks, Droids, CW, TCW, Rebels, Resistance, Mando, Andor, Ashoka, and BoBF. There’s only OWK and possibly this that might have been better as films, but the TV show format has worked perfectly for the franchise since Droids and Ewoks first came out.

Skeleton Crew is, of course, not out nor has any substantial information being released for you to form any opinion on how well the format will work for it.

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I would like to prove my point stated earlier: the bad pacing and bad editing is what mainly plague The Acolyte.

This was the only part that’s relevant to your edit.

Gods, this place is really in danger of turning into Reddit, having to trudge through paragraphs of low effort YouTube grifter regurgitation to try find out what’s been changed and why.

Calm down.

No. Lazy regurgitation helps nobody. Either read it or don’t.

You have zero evidence that his opinions are not his own. Not everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I’m assuming you will be removing the Yoda cameo? I’d be wary of removing the Plagueis cameo, because at least that explains how Quimir and Osha are screwed.

And the link between Vernestra and Q’mir doesn’t make sense now in a standalone story… it was setting up season 2…

Their link does go at least a little ways in explaining why Vernestra would want to cover up the whole thing. It’s her own failure that she doesn’t want to confront. But I do agree that it was sequel bait. Perhaps you could just tweak the scene between Mae and her concerning going after him? So it’s more of thing she wants absolutely nothing to do with going forward?

I suppose her cover up could work as a way to preserve the entire Jedi Order’s reputation, still.

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hinventon said:

Sad that Disney canceled it, I really liked seeing a different time period and some new characters. I would definitely keep Plagueis and cut Yoda. Maybe you can cut Osha saying she will try to find her sister at the end. I would also fix that doubled knife audio in the beginning fight.

Would you consider adding a classic star wars crawl? The pan down to the surface may be hard since the text is over top of the pan, but maybe a new planet shot could be created to pan down from. Can’t wait for the new version!

Yep, it is sad. But As I wrote elsewhere, the story is good, but the execution is lacking, Disney and Lucasfilm just can’t greenlight a S2 to the same creative team. I wouldn’t be surprise though that Q’mir and Plagueis come back later… They are canon after all! I like what I did with Osha at the end, to “suggest” with short flashback shots why Mae lost her memory… I’ll cut Yoda… I’ll also try to do something with that last shot…
And yes… when you told about the doubled knife audio, it was the first modification I did for the V1.5! lol… I was just waiting for other ajustments, to make the work of a new output worth its while!! lol

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

MathisMando said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I’m assuming you will be removing the Yoda cameo? I’d be wary of removing the Plagueis cameo, because at least that explains how Quimir and Osha are screwed.

And the link between Vernestra and Q’mir doesn’t make sense now in a standalone story… it was setting up season 2…

Their link does go at least a little ways in explaining why Vernestra would want to cover up the whole thing. It’s her own failure that she doesn’t want to confront. But I do agree that it was sequel bait. Perhaps you could just tweak the scene between Mae and her concerning going after him? So it’s more of thing she wants absolutely nothing to do with going forward?

I suppose her cover up could work as a way to preserve the entire Jedi Order’s reputation, still.

Yep, you’re right. I’ll think about that. I have an idea but I must get back, again… into it! lol…
Sometimes it doesn’t hurt to let some breadcrumbs… I was thinking to remove Vernestra on Brendok who says “You!!” then cut Q’mir puting his helmet back… that part implies heavily that they know each other… If there is no follow up this serves nothing storywise…

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honestabe said:

I have not personally watched anything related to the Acolyte yet. However, as I skimmed through some of the changes for the edits of the show, I noticed only the editor Movies Remastered made any hardcore visual and audio edits.

Did you ever consider incorporating some of those into your own (with proper credit provided)?

I would need to see their cut… It’s tough to get our hands on a copy, we must be on discord… I hate that platform… But, as a screenwriter, editor, I tried to keep my head on the storyflow only, and making it not look nor sound like a “patchwork”. So there won’t be any hardcore modifications, as my only goal was to transform the original material into something enjoyable to watch, with a better pacing, storywise, emotionaly too, … However I’m thinking about removing something in my last shot, it would need some compositing work though which I’m not too familiar with…

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MathisMando said:

honestabe said:

I have not personally watched anything related to the Acolyte yet. However, as I skimmed through some of the changes for the edits of the show, I noticed only the editor Movies Remastered made any hardcore visual and audio edits.

Did you ever consider incorporating some of those into your own (with proper credit provided)?

So there won’t be any hardcore modifications, as my only goal was to transform the original material into something enjoyable to watch, with a better pacing, storywise, emotionaly too, … However I’m thinking about removing something in my last shot, it would need some compositing work though which I’m not too familiar with…

Yeah removing the ship taking off for the Plagueis shot is probably the only VFX needed for edits of this show.

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I don’t mind the ship taking off, it just implies that they leave together to go do sith shenanigans.