Thanks for all the hard work g00b, these are turning out great.

When it comes to AI implementation, I’ve always felt the less, the better. It can be a powerful tool to adjust the context of a scene or two for pacing/story, but to replace entire character’s worth of dialogue? I’m just not sure it needs it. The Rebels/Clone Wars cast have already done a great job, particularly those that aren’t movie casts, and it could be perceived as a little disrespectful to the source material and the voice actors to swap a whole character for AI.

Daiyus said:

Thanks for all the hard work g00b, these are turning out great.

When it comes to AI implementation, I’ve always felt the less, the better. It can be a powerful tool to adjust the context of a scene or two for pacing/story, but to replace entire character’s worth of dialogue? I’m just not sure it needs it. The Rebels/Clone Wars cast have already done a great job, particularly those that aren’t movie casts, and it could be perceived as a little disrespectful to the source material and the voice actors to swap a whole character for AI.

Thanks for the feedback! This is the kind of pushback I’m looking for!

For context: I am an artist, not just an editor. Working in stage/film, visual mediums, voiceworks and game development. I have never had problems with AI, hence why I asked the previous question. (I know most artists do have issues with AI)

For further clarification, the AI I now use maps over actors performances to change voices. So in a sense it would keep the original actors work. I see this type of AI as purely an audio effect, like how they’d make General Grevious’ voice but I do understand other people may not share this viewpoint.

All of that being said, the change is fairly needless but is one that focuses on stylistic choices. I have zero problems with the original performances, it’s just odd to me that Rebels has half animated cast and half live action cast.

After reading your point of how this could be taken as disrespectful for the original work and actors, I’m on the side of not implementing this change so I’m glad I put the idea out there.

EddieDean said:

I love the animated cast, so I wouldn’t see much value in trying to replace them.

I too love the animated cast. I also love the movie cast. I probably love the movies more as I grew up with the prequels though.

That’s a good point about the change not being valuable, in fact given the previous posts it may hurt my edit rather then enhance my edit for what would be A LOT of work. Thanks for your comment Eddie!

I also agree to take a “less is more” aproach with AI, only using it when absolutely necessary, and even then, very sparsely.

PsyGemini said:

I also agree to take a “less is more” aproach with AI, only using it when absolutely necessary, and even then, very sparsely.

Thanks PsyGemini, this is the approach I will continue to take within the edit after hearing all the feedback from my previous idea. 😃

As it stands, the only AI used in the edit is for the Sith Holocron Voice (text-to-speech). It will soon be replaced with a new dub (by me) which has had AI map on top of it. I originally used AI to assist in making adjustments to the writing style of my intro texts, but I’ve long since forgone that process after learning the style for myself.

It might be a little longer until I can release the 4K version of Fulcrum, unfortunately a power outage at my home corrupted the file during the upscaling process. I’ve got S02E02 ready with the audio fix, so I’ll likely release that soon and then begin the upscaling process again.

In the meantime, here is a sneak peak at the work I’ve put into Bendu’s force storm for Zero Hour:
https://youtu.be/k_CvUxWykjs

Thanks again to honestabe for suggesting to tone down what the Empire is exposed to when it comes to beings who can use the force.

The only scene I haven’t been able to remove the eyes from completely is when Bendu is shot down from the sky, however I think this works MUCH better then the original version 😃

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• cut titlecard
• cut Thrawn saying “my spies report” as in my edit, Thrawn got this information through the Fulcrum transmissions as explained by the intro text.
  • I made this change to make Thrawn seem more competent. He did say in the last episode tha Fulcrum would be much more of an asset than Kallus ever was, so let’s deliver on that over multiple fronts.
• cut fade to black
• cut next fade to black
• cut scenes of Ezra talking with Mon Mothma, as in my edit, he’s never met her directly so this conversation feels a bit out of nowhere. She can’t help anyway.
• cut “Alright Thrawn, your move.” from Hera. It’s just useless dialogue to bridge into the titlecard.
• cut titlecard
• cut fade to black
• cut next fade to black
• cut establishing shot after fade to black
• cut close up of the Rebels after establishing shot
• cut Thrawn saying he requires an answer as now he just asked the question, thats implied.
• cut shot of Kanan igniting his saber (moved the audio to future shot with Hera answering Thrawn) while the Rebels cower.
• removed Bendu’s eyes from “I’m the Bendu” force storm scene
  • Removing the eyes serves two purposes:
    1. It doesn’t expose much of the Empire to a giant force being of intense power directly. E.g., Now they could feasibly think it was just an extreme weather event.
    2. This makes Thrawn seem even more competent as when he gives the order to shoot at the centre of the storm, its not a giant creature obviously in the middle of it.
  • Took a screenshot of the cloud formation directly before the eyes begin to open and used this as a base
  • Added film grain and 4 layers of this image to mask and rotate to blend it into the Rebels style and create motion.
  • One layer was added as a colour shift to help blend the changing of colors in the scene.
  • removed line “I’m the Bendu”
• removed Bendu’s eyes from second force storm scene “I bring death”
  • Created new image to overlay to remove the cloud eye beams. This was done mostly with a brush in image editing software, following by blending in real photos of clouds to create the right texture.
  • Used similar techniques from the previous storm shot to simulate some movement in the clouds
• trimmed establishing shot of Bendu’s force storm to remove showing him talking. (The shot nolong pans up to his face in the clouds)
  • Masked and recolored the tiny bit of orange light that still remained in the shot.
• cut Kanan saying “You heard him.” as in my edit, there is no Bendu to hear at this point.
• trimmed shot with the rebels running to cut showing the Bendu in the sky.
• trimmed shot of the rebels taking off for the same reason.
• cut shot in the cockpit of the Ghost as you can hear Bendu saying “Kanan Jarrus, jedi knight!”
• cut shot of Bendu opening his eyes as the Rebels escape chopper base.
• removed Bendu storm eyes from establishing shot with Thrawn on chopper base
  • Followed the same steps as outlined in the previous shot altered.
• cut a shot of Thrawn looking at the force storm and not saying anything.
• cut Bendu telling thrawn to “Leave this place!”
• removed Bendu Eyes in storm while it’s being shot the first time
  • Followed the same steps as the last two eye removals
• removed Bendu Eyes UNTIL he is shot the second time
  • Once he is shot down, this is the only time you see the outline of his face.
  • Followed the same steps as the previous shots but changed the opacity of my new images based on when the Bendu get’s shot.
  • I’m fine with showing a little bit of Cloud Bendu in the sky, especially as it’s still believable that this was not a creature. Keeping in mind we get a close up of this while the ground troops and Thrawn do not.
• cut all scenes of Thrawn with the Bendu
  • As recommended by honestabe, the removal of Thrawn’s encounter with the Bendu removes the plot thread of Thrawn’s defeat (and lowkey spoiler for the ending of the series). It also limits the exposure of none force users to force users, further guiding the galaxy to what was setup by the Original Trilogy.
• Updated the look of the end credit ‘concept art’
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  • Added a canvas texture to all concept art
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I have some notes regarding your Season 1 edit. This all relates to how this show had an excessive amount of public mentions of Jedi and the force, which contradicts how in the OT almost everyone effectively is unfamiliar with the Jedi and the force other than using it as a form of wishing good luck when stating, “May the force be with you.”

S1

E1:

• 32:40 mark Kallus says focus fire on Jedi. Does he need to say the word jedi?

• 34:10 Kallus tells Ezra that it is over for the Jedi master and apprentice. Why would he be familiar with this concept? At that point, Ezra was not an apprentice and spoils the end of the episode before they become master and apprentice.

• 34:40 trooper asks Kallus if Kana wasnthe first Jedi he ever seen, and then kicks him off for no reason. Why would this guy have ever seen a Jedi considering it was clones that handled them years before? Also, kicking him off to his death makes Kallus look like a childish idiot.

Publicizing the existence of the Jedi so quickly could instigate rebellion instead of suppressing it like Kallus wants. He should keep it quiet until informing the Grand Inquisitor at the end of the episode. Better to trick Kanan and Ezra that the empire knows nothing about the Jedi identity. Kanan should know if the empire recognizes him as a Jedi he will become public enemy number one. Did he forget the trauma of Order 66?

E3

12:20 troopers discuss if they saw the Jedi master. Maybe just jump to Kanan’s jedi mind trick telling them to get moving without mentioning any Jedi. The troopers look really stupid if they have no idea that they are guarding an empty prison cell. Their dialogue also functions as a strong hint or spoiler that this was a trap using a dead Jedi. Better left unstated and ambiguous. More secretive the better.

E4

23:53 Grand Inquisitor mentions sensing Jedi and padawan in his grasp. This is useless bragging dialogue and better to prevent public proclamations as we saw him place the tracker. This makes him look like an idiot when he later fails.

29:04 Grand Inquisitor mentions sensing movement in the force - effectively sensing the jedi from a really far distance in space. That seems too force sensitive and strong for him when no other force user has this power. Just cut straight to the imperial referencing the tracker location.

E6

5:10 Kallus mentions inquisitor believes too much emphasis on Jedi (again too many people familiar with Jedi). Maybe his only line should be focus on the rebels as a group. Dialogue a bit awkward. Maybe get rid of the scene altogether because it spoils their plan to trick and trap the rebels. Better to let Ezra bring it bring it up the next scene. Same information provided.

9:45 Kallus calls Kanan Jedi knight in front of a crowd and then calls Ezra ‘padawan Jabba’.

17:09 Kallus says blast the Jedi while Kanan slowing down the fan. Do we need the Jedi reference?

E7

3:25 Discussion over Jedi. Tarkin mentions they are all gone. This is something to keep in. This was publicly stated in front of various soldiers. This fits better with OT.

6:20 Tarkin acknowledges Jedi and mentions whispers in the streets about the’alleged’ Jedi. Not sure what to do about this, but again too many people aware of the Jedi if it includes the common residents of Lothal. However, it does imply that this is only rumor at that point.

18:05 Tarkin references Kanan as Jedi in question in front of a group. No need to publicly call him that.

20: Tarkin tells Kanan they will determine if he is the Jedi he is ‘claimed’ to be. Probably fine to keep this in.

28: Ezra reveals Jedi identity to the criminals. I think this is probably okay as the criminal underworld would not quietly spread word of this.

[EDIT]: A few AI generated lines might help here. Potentially indicating the hunt for the Jedi will be more secretive to prevent news spreading of their existence.

I hope some of this helps. Your edit really brought out the strength of the show and characters. While it will never fit perfectly with the OT, a bit more consistency would help. Heck, we all know the entire Star Wars universe is packed with contradictions and inconsistencies everywhere. Good luck completing this project.

Wow! Thank you so much honestabe! That is some awesome feedback. All of which either merits consideration and change within season 1. Naturally, you can tell that reducing Jedi talk wasn’t an initial priority but I think it is a better choice of action. We’ll likely see some new versions of Season 1 episodes coming out. If you get a chance to combe through season 2 for instances like this, I’d greatly appreciate it! 😄

EP1:
All instances in episode one I think you’re spot on about and I’ll look into removing or changing them.

EP3:
I don’t mind them not knowing what they’re guarding but it is silly to have them say it aloud.

EP4:
I don’t actually mind the line at 23:53 - HOWEVER, I do think the scene would be more intimidating if he said nothing. So I’ll look into this.

Totally agree with the next line you pointed out as well.

EP6:
Moment at 5:10 I agree. I’ll likely cut the whole scene.

9:45 - I actually don’t mind too much. Yes he talks about Jedi in front of a crowd but it’s a small crowd. I also think due to working with the grand inquisitor Kallus should NOW be more familiar with the Jedi so it does make sense to a certain extent.

17:09 - Again, I don’t actually mind this line, however on a second inspection it’s unclear who “the jedi” is. Is it Ezra who is wielding a saber, or is it Kanan holding the fan. Would the unarmed rebel register as a “Jedi” to the stormtroopers? I think I’ll cut it completely.

EP7:
3:25 - I agree to keep it in.

6:20 - I think is fine. To make things fit with the OT the most, I think the Force and the Jedi are known about to differing levels in differing areas (e.g., planets, organisations, ect.). The citizens of Lothal become the rebels in season 3-4, so having rumors of Jedi around trying to help actually works and by presenting it as a rumor at this stage emphasises what memory the galaxy’s had of the Jedi is fading.

20:00 - I agree to keep it as is, he is diminishing the credibility of the claim which is important.

28:00 - Yeah, not much I can do with this being a pivotal plot point. I think that EVEN if the underworld spreads this information, not many people could find it reliable being from the criminal underworld and all.

To address your edited comment. I actually don’t think we’ll need any additional lines to fill in any blanks (at least for this season) but I’ll work that out as I review this feedback while editing 😃 Again thank you a lot! This is all very helpful! 😄

I’ve got a pretty crazy idea I think I can pull off for S04E01.

Something that ALWAYS bothered me about this ark is that it hints that Sabine’s weapon kills her mother and brother, but then backs way off and shows that they’re alive and well. After like 2 minutes of dramatic music and shots and originally that was an episode cliffhanger.

Here’s my idea: I cut out Ursa and Tristan from returning and from any subsequent shot needed that they appear in.

Honestly, after this point, they do nothing of note in canon (or the episode) until they’re all killed offscreen before the Ahsoka show anyway. As far as I can tell, all that this changes is one (admittedly good) YouTube short with Tristan and Sabine.

With their deaths however, we have one high stakes ark about Sabine learning to forgive and not give into revenge as led by Bo Katan. I believe this change will also reframe this ark to make it not seem like it’s about Sabine becoming the leader Mandalore needs as this is not what ends up happening (at least currently anyway).

It’s a pretty drastic change so I wanted to post to get some thoughts.

EDIT: Another bonus if I include this is that it sets the tone for season 4. There will be victory but it’ll cost.

That is an excellent idea. The show will be much stronger when there is much more sacrifice and pain. You cannot have a small group of rebels competing against a galactic empire without enduring painful losses. I do not recall how the episode ended, but the show should give you a constant feeling that painful sacrifices are being made.

Unfortunately, I also felt the show would have been much stronger had Ahsoka remained dead following her selfless sacrifice against Vader, and Ezra really did sacrifice himself, but their characters are needed for other shows (Mandalorian and Ahsoka).

Yes I agree, the show does start losing members of Phoenix Cell in Season 3 which goes a long way to making Thrawn feel credible. And I’ve been steadily upping the death count in the show as much as possible to add that tangible sense of loss.

As a side note here is how the end of the episode is looking with only Sabine’s father alive: https://youtu.be/sfOjeyp5bzA (this was the hardest part of this edit as it required me to do some visual effects work to remove Ursa and Tristan. I’d say it looks like I’m in the clear for pulling off Sabine’s mother and brother being killed by the duchess now that this section has the completed VFX)

Season 2 Notes

E1

32:13 When Ahsoka senses Vader, maybe add a brief flashback right after Vader states that, “the apprentice lives” and we see Ahsoka fainting - this could be interpreted as a dream sequence. It could be an emotional moment they had from the Clone Wars such as Ahsoka informing Anakin she is leaving the Jedi order.

I know flashbacks are not a thing in Star Wars, but this might be the rare situation to put one in to add emotional depth. It could really enhance their meeting later on when Ahsoka tells Vader she will not leave him 'this time.'We establish right away Ahsoka feeling guilty and she is having a vision of the past while unconscious.

E4

13:50 Here we see the inquisitors using the force slowing down the ship from leaving. I would cut this and have the rebels escape without restraint. This is a source of a continuity error in Star Wars. The only other times we see this, as far as I am aware, is with Vader in the Kenobi show, and Ahsoka at the end of the Clone Wars. We otherwise never see Jedi or Sith do this on several ocassions when presented with the opportunity. For example, if Vader has the power to do this, why not do it at the end of Rogue One or several moments stopping the Millennium Falcon in the OT?

Heck, Yoda was slowly able to move Luke’s unmoving ship in ESB, but the inquisitors could stop a ship flying away at full speed?

E5

36:58 Ryder Azadi loudly proclaims Kanan’s a Jedi after Kanan ignites his lightsaber. I think this episode is problematic as is with Leia witnessing a lightsaber and Ezra using the force. I do not think she should potentially hear any mention of Jedi until we get to the OT - she does tells Luke in ROTJ that she does not understand his power. When Leia first meets Kanan and Ezra, she tells them she knows them, but I think this is acceptable as I believe Bail would not specifically tell her those two are Jedi. (I am disregarding what Leia experienced in the Kenobi show).

E6

No changes needed, but notably Hera tells Sabine at the end of the episode she sounds more like a Jedi than a Mandalorian, which sets up what happens in the Ahsoka show. This may be something you want to explore further if looking to connect to the other show.

E10

In the Jedi temple Ahsoka has a vision of Anakin scolding her and he transforms into the suited Vader. She feels guilty. This is why the possible dream flashback in the opening episode could be useful to establish her feelings of guilt in the season opener to have it as a theme the entire season instead of waiting all the way towards the end.

E11

10:49 Kanan and Ezra get into a really childish “common sense” argument over Ezra trying to connect with the spiders. I think their argument here can be removed. It comes across as excessively petty and childish to me.

==> Your work on that season finale has really turned into something special. One of the more powerful and gut wrenching content we get in the Star Wars universe.

I watched the first episode. My main criticism is that you don’t linger long enough on establishing shots, giving the edit a rushed, sometimes confusing feel.

GLogus said:

I watched the first episode. My main criticism is that you don’t linger long enough on establishing shots, giving the edit a rushed, sometimes confusing feel.

Thanks for the feedback GLogus! I really value this type of feedback. As I’ve become exceedingly familiar with Rebels, confusion while watching becomes a difficult thing for me to judge when viewing.

Are you able to point to any direct examples? I’m fairly sure this is a result of the original work. I can think of a few examples that I’ve had to shorten an establishing shot for a wipe transition but as far as I’m aware these instances are few and far between.

Do you have any advice on how to remedy this? I’ll be returning to the first episode to implement feedback soon so any more on this point would be amazing 😃

honestabe said:
E1

32:13 When Ahsoka senses Vader, maybe add a brief flashback right after Vader states that, “the apprentice lives” and we see Ahsoka fainting - this could be interpreted as a dream sequence. It could be an emotional moment they had from the Clone Wars such as Ahsoka informing Anakin she is leaving the Jedi order.

While I do really like this idea, I am hesitant to implement it. It would provide spoilers for the Clone Wars and although Rebels can continue arcs from that show, it definitely stands on it’s own merits and to have the specific moment you’ve suggested could be a major spoiler. I do agree with the point you make later on about how this should be explored earlier. I’ll keep thinking about this because I do like the idea. Maybe Anakin saying “snips?” then Ahsoka faints could help emphasise the moment. Maybe I could try make a sequence that looks like Anakin’s force visions in episode 3 might be a nice touch. I’ll experiment and see if I can come up with something. If I can’t, it does still work as is.

I know flashbacks are not a thing in Star Wars, but this might be the rare situation to put one in to add emotional depth. It could really enhance their meeting later on when Ahsoka tells Vader she will not leave him 'this time.'We establish right away Ahsoka feeling guilty and she is having a vision of the past while unconscious.

I always avoid flashbacks for star wars. I try to keep in mind how Lucas intended the films styles. He sees them as documentaries (which is why we don’t have things like flashbacks). I do agree that something here could enhance the moment, but for my edit, it won’t be a flashback (though it may use footage from Clone Wars if I add something) 😃

E4

13:50 Here we see the inquisitors using the force slowing down the ship from leaving. I would cut this and have the rebels escape without restraint. This is a source of a continuity error in Star Wars. The only other times we see this, as far as I am aware, is with Vader in the Kenobi show, and Ahsoka at the end of the Clone Wars. We otherwise never see Jedi or Sith do this on several ocassions when presented with the opportunity. For example, if Vader has the power to do this, why not do it at the end of Rogue One or several moments stopping the Millennium Falcon in the OT?

Heck, Yoda was slowly able to move Luke’s unmoving ship in ESB, but the inquisitors could stop a ship flying away at full speed?

I agree, not sure how I missed this moment! I’ll try take it out and see how things flow.

E5

36:58 Ryder Azadi loudly proclaims Kanan’s a Jedi after Kanan ignites his lightsaber. I think this episode is problematic as is with Leia witnessing a lightsaber and Ezra using the force. I do not think she should potentially hear any mention of Jedi until we get to the OT - she does tells Luke in ROTJ that she does not understand his power. When Leia first meets Kanan and Ezra, she tells them she knows them, but I think this is acceptable as I believe Bail would not specifically tell her those two are Jedi. (I am disregarding what Leia experienced in the Kenobi show).

I think disregarding the Kenobi show is the right options (in my opinion it breaks too much lore to be considered canon). I don’t think this moment breaks anything though, she can know what a Jedi is and not understand their powers but I agree it’s a bit iffy and not really the initial intention. I’ll see if I can remove it but for the previous reason listed I’m not too fussed if I can’t. 😃

E11

10:49 Kanan and Ezra get into a really childish “common sense” argument over Ezra trying to connect with the spiders. I think their argument here can be removed. It comes across as excessively petty and childish to me.

I originally kept this moment as I think it’s important to show Ezra’s arrogance here, but the end of this exchange after Kanan says maybe he should teach him more common sense could be cut. I’ll review this further when I’m back to fixing up this episode 😃

Again, thanks a lot for all this feedback! 😄 Very insightful and very worthwhile.

I almost forgot. In the opening text for season 2, episode 11 the text notes:

"Meanwhile, amidst the chaos, Chopper embarks on a personal quest, driven by a desire to reclaim a missing component of his own.

Left behind and determined, he clandestinely boards an imperial cargo ship, forging an unexpected alliance with AP5."

With the way the episode plays out, we do not really find out about Chopper’s personal quest or what this missing component was. That statement confused me as there is no follow-up. I am not sure exactly what recommendations I can make to modify it. Perhaps the personal quest can be driven by a desire to proclaim imperial planetary data or something in that nature. This would flow naturally into the episode as Hera credits Chopper for the planetary coordinates.

honestabe said:

I almost forgot. In the opening text for season 2, episode 11 the text notes:

"Meanwhile, amidst the chaos, Chopper embarks on a personal quest, driven by a desire to reclaim a missing component of his own.

Left behind and determined, he clandestinely boards an imperial cargo ship, forging an unexpected alliance with AP5."

With the way the episode plays out, we do not really find out about Chopper’s personal quest or what this missing component was. That statement confused me as there is no follow-up.

I understand your point here. I wrote that intro text much earlier then when I settled on the current iteration for the start of that episode. There actually is a follow-up however.

My wife and I thought the exact same thing you thought when finishing our most recent watch. To immediately then have chopper on screen stealing a droid leg in my “concept art” end credits. We laughed so hard I decided to keep it in the episode as is. I’m definitely open to changing it if overall it’s just confusing, I just thought it worth noting that I did follow-up on it in some manner (although not intentionally).

A few thoughts for season 3:

E5

13:17 We have an appearance by Bendu after Sabine kicked him. What is the purpose of including him?

No role in the episode besides that 2 second appearance. If you were looking for perfection and nitpicking, you could remove him, but not sure if that is even worth the effort for you.

E7

26 Kallus laughs and [spoiler] tells Thrawn rebels will somehow emerge victorious out of certain defeat. Thrawn arrogantly responds that he is basically superior to Kallus so he will end up victorious. Perhaps some of the spoiler lines can be removed here. Thrawn also looks like a fool if he brags and then loses later on. Kallus really is no position to act arrogantly as he was clearly just tortured by Thrawn. He should not have the confidence to boast, but instead continue to feel afraid until we later see him more positive when dealing with Price who does mess things up.

33:44 Thrawn states “What Jedi devilry is this?” in relation to the Bendu storm. I think he should be smart enough to know Jedi - particularly Kanan and Ezra - are incapable of making storms. No logical reason for him to assume the Jedi would suddenly have this power when it never happened in the past.

I think removing the word Jedi from the line would be sufficient. It comes across as a shocked person saying, “what the hell?”

==> Your modifications to the Bendu storm along with hiding the voice worked out quite excellently. Thrawn clearly comes across as much more intelligent by figuring out how to stop Bendu without having the blatant hint of looking at him in the sky.

honestabe said:

A few thoughts for season 3:

E5

13:17 We have an appearance by Bendu after Sabine kicked him. What is the purpose of including him?

No role in the episode besides that 2 second appearance. If you were looking for perfection and nitpicking, you could remove him, but not sure if that is even worth the effort for you.

In isolation, this moment is a bit off however it’s nessicary to connect the threads laid out in this episode of Sabine’s force sensitivity 😃 so I’ll keep it in.

E7

26 Kallus laughs and [spoiler] tells Thrawn rebels will somehow emerge victorious out of certain defeat. Thrawn arrogantly responds that he is basically superior to Kallus so he will end up victorious. Perhaps some of the spoiler lines can be removed here. Thrawn also looks like a fool if he brags and then loses later on. Kallus really is no position to act arrogantly as he was clearly just tortured by Thrawn. He should not have the confidence to boast, but instead continue to feel afraid until we later see him more positive when dealing with Price who does mess things up.

I actually think this moment works well. I don’t think it’s a spoiler (even though it comes true). As we see later on with Pryce, he’s trying to bait Thrawn (as he does successfully to Pryce) so he can make his escape. I actually think this highlights Thrawn as superior as he claims but I’m willing to hear what others think about this moment as I might change it 😃

33:44 Thrawn states “What Jedi devilry is this?” in relation to the Bendu storm. I think he should be smart enough to know Jedi - particularly Kanan and Ezra - are incapable of making storms. No logical reason for him to assume the Jedi would suddenly have this power when it never happened in the past.

I think removing the word Jedi from the line would be sufficient. It comes across as a shocked person saying, “what the hell?”

That’s a good idea. I’ll see if I can get that working. If not, I’ll keep it as is 😃

==> Your modifications to the Bendu storm along with hiding the voice worked out quite excellently. Thrawn clearly comes across as much more intelligent by figuring out how to stop Bendu without having the blatant hint of looking at him in the sky.

Thanks! Before it felt so painfully obvious thrawn was stupid not to have done that immediately 😂

I think this will be my final feedback for the edit and will conclude with season 4, which are still V3. I have nothing for the epilogue nor the Tales of the Rebels.

E1

3:54 trooper (Hark) says stand down Jedi, or she (Sabine) dies. Perhaps remove the word ‘Jedi.’

14:35 Saxon talks to Captain Hark who mentions renegades and their ‘Jedi allies.’ Yet again, we have too much widespread knowledge of living Jedi. Less is more.

If the Empire knows Jedi are coming to Mandalore with the trap they set up, wouldn’t they make sure to use massive amounts of force to take them out, such as Thrawn (Rukh) or more importantly, a task for Vader?

My impression of the episode was that preparations were made to fight other mandalorians rather than Jedi. It makes the empire look incompetent if the only thing they had was Sabine’s weapon and nothing more to combat the jedi.

We have various instances with Alrich Wren, Sabine’s father, uses the word Jedi with Ezra. I do not consider this a major problem as this is done more privately. Personally, I am 50-50 on whether to keep it or not.

13:40 He asks Ezra if he is a Jedi and he answers, “let’s hope so.”

14:59 “Thank you, young Jedi.”

16:25 He refers to Ezra as master Jedi.

==> On another matter, I do agree with the deaths of Sabine’s brother and mother. However, there is a deafening silence and lack of emotion the rest of the episode considering everyone is acting as though they are still alive. It creates an awkward feeling when we do not see the characters, particularly Sabine, in no state of mourning.

I wonder if there is a way to repurpose audio or even other [deleted] footage to have Sabine display some form of grief at the end of the episode. Even then, it may appear clunky.

E2

24:35 Is there a better way for the troopers to become distracted than getting “attacked” by the small Lothal cats? Professional soldiers should be a bit more competent. Is there an editing trick that can make it appear as though the cats took something like a weapon to give the troopers a legitimate reason to chase them? Maybe audio from a trooper shouting that the cats took something.

27:18 The pilot, in a surprised manner, says, “a jedi, here?” Why does everybody seem to be familiar with the Jedi? The line could be cut straight to Thrawn’s dialogue.

30 The 2 troopers are shown still chasing the little cats. It really makes them look really stupid. This can just be cut completely. Does the Empire really have two doofuses who are easily distracted into chasing small cats instead of defending a top secret military program?

45:08 Rukh calls Ezra a “Jedi” after being force-shoved. I would definitely keep this and all future Jedi references from him because he is a specialized assassin. Dealing with Jedi requires someone with superior capabilities.

E3

34:29 2 troopers discuss Lothal bats. One of them says to ignore them because they are not as dangerous as the cats. Personally, the whole dangerous cats dialogue annoys me and I would remove that part.

Tiny cats are more dangerous than big flying bats? We crossed the line into full-blown satire here.

E4

56:26 It sounds like Palpatine’s words are some sort of spell in the world between worlds. This comes across as more like magic from the Nightsisters versus a Sith lord using the force. I recommend removing his words. The Sith nor the Jedi never use magic words when they do anything with the force, including when they use lightning.

E5

In this episode, Mart Martin on several occasions stated Ezra entrusted him with a secret mission. I did not keep track of his many times it was said, but I personally think it was overkill for him to keep repeating himself. I do not believe the audience needs to be repeatedly reminded of the secret mission more than once. It minimizes the impact and surprise of bringing in the purrgil at the end.

Thanks again for sharing this and the great work done. I hope you can get it to a point where you are comfortable enough to say the edit is finalized. However, in the editing world nothing is every truly ‘finished.’