No, just kidding, because I understand that what you're talking about with Episode I DOES apply to Episode II. For instance, does Gunray's subtitle go like this:Gunray: What about the Queen from Naboo? Is she dead yet? I'm not signing your treaty until her head is in my hands.
or like this:
Gunray: You keep ignoring the Jedi. You will kill the boy, won't you? I can never forgive him who murdered my brother in cold blood.
You fellows are right, though; I've been trying to look at this as an individual piece, but as you say, I don't want to "paint myself into a corner". First, I want to remind you of a few things regarding my plan for Episode I:
-German speaking Nemoidians and Gungans
-The title will simply be "Star Wars", with no episode number (as you say, hinting towards a stand-alone film)
-There will be a prologue at the beginning ("A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away, there was a great war. The Jedi Knights and the lords of the Sith..." etc.). This prologue will perhaps use shots from other films, spaceships, and other things to accompany the narrative and give some history for the 6-movie saga. Obviously, we would have to write the backstory and figure out what happened, similar to the extended universe novels out there that I've never read.
Maybe there is a way an explanation of the Jedi/Sith background can be incorporated into Episode I, but I haven't a clue how to do it.
See, the whole Jedi/Sith revenge thing would be explained in the prologue. The Jedi creamed the Sith and the Sith were hunted down and killed. But forever afterward, there were whispers that the Sith were still alive.... and that's when the title card and the crawl come up.
Now, the whole Ep. I discussion is very intriguing stuff- however, I will comment when I have more time, maybe. For now, I will just concentrate on Ep. II and leave the subtitles until later. There's good news- forum member Citizen has agreed to get me the HD Blade Runner footage I needed to make the nightclub work. Thank you, Citizen!
I see you plan an interior shot on the Queen's ship here too and I think that's brilliant-- what if it can establish (falsely) that Padme's actually on board -- a shot of Padme's double or something?
As was brought up, I thought that was what the original scene did. Maybe you don't remember because you are watching an edited version of Ep. 2?
A quick one: in the opening sequence where the ships are flying into Coruscant-- go back to TPM for a close up of Artoo in the back of a Naboo Fighter. This would cue us into his presence and p.o.v. before we even get to the landing deck.
Good idea.
Musically, it might be cool to think about incorporating that fluttery little droid motif from ESB whenever we see the droids.
EXCELLENT idea. That will help a great deal.
Were you able to get the DVD-quality title cards you were looking for from the "Empire of Dreams" documentary, or have you still not picked up the SE Trilogy on DVD? If not, I may be of some help, just let me know.
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Just as a thought, if this is going to become a complete trilogy redo, someone might want to start taking notes to put together a "bible" of sorts for the new universe that's being created so good ideas don't become impossible because of other changes. A basic timeline of events and possible shots used to represent them perhaps.
That would be great. I really should do that. My overall orginization on this project has been awful- all I have is a 16- page list of personal notes, and this rambling thread I've created, in which I've posted inconsistent, lengthy ideas for changes that jump from scene to scene, conceptual to technical, dropping a release date in that mess, changing the release date...etc. etc. What I should do soon is to map out the new "universe" and plot points, compile a complete list of changes starting from Commander Courage's (and post it at the top of the thread), go through the whole thread and take notes on EVERYTHING to ensure I remember everything during cutting, and put ALL the pictures and video clips in one place, maybe even finding another site or host to do multimedia on. I've been doing a sloppy job and I'm sorry about that. Maybe that's part of why some people don't get involved in the brainstorming here- they feel lost in this thread. I'll see what I can do about this.
And this is also a good time to think about where exactly I stand on the whole six film saga. Because I don't know. You've said that Sidious in Episode I only makes sense after seeing the OT, which has truth to it. But what order would I like these to be watched? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6? Doing that would bring up the question....what about the whole "I am your father" revelation that is wrecked by Episode III? How far do I want to go to make it run 1-6? Because as it's been said, someone who's never seen Star Wars is probably not going to see my version first. Maybe the order of initial viewing could be: 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 6. Not sure if you understand...I'm just confused about what I'm trying to do here in terms of the big picture. What would you as the audience like?
I agree. Most of the cinematography was horrible. Nothing like the OT.
I feel very strongly about this. Come on; I didn't expect a noir movie, but the framing throughout is just so incredibly bad. Forget any dark angles or moving camera or lighting; the characters are usually perfectly centered in the frame and looking ahead, perfectly lit at all times. I can't stand it.
Oh, one more thing pertaining to ALL the prequels, "Annie" must be eliminated wherever possible. I'd say Shmi should be the only one to call him that.
Absolutely. Another thing that MUST be cut for Ep. III is “younglings”.
MTH, I’ll respond to your comments regarding Ep. II soon. Basically, I liked all of them.
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Oh, and regarding the Sypho-Dias scene: Search your feelings
And don't worry about it, as it's completely figured out. However, I have an invitation...Would anyone like to have a stab at writing the second Lama-Su scene right now? It looks as though Nanner Split is ready to record soon. Here are my plans
-Boba Fett is Jango's natural son.
-The scene starts with Lama-Su saying, "Moral implications? I should have expected something like that from a Jedi." (laughs). "Oh...we don't concern ourselves with that here, Kenobi." Obi-Wan: I see.
-Lama-Su rambles on about the growth acceleration and all the other delightful details of the cloning operation (like the guy in "Brave New World") while Obi-Wan is mostly silent. “Lama-Su: Otherwise, a mature clone would take a lifetime to grow. Obi-Wan: Really.” (unimpressed and a little sarcastic. Lama-Su ignores him.) “Now we can do it in half the time.” Obi-Wan is silent.
These are pretty much the only restrictions. Remember, Obi-Wan is for the most part silent and not happy about the clones, and Lama-Su is rambling like the guy in Brave New World. He can say whatever we want, being redubbed.
Thanks everyone!