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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
And I'm sorry, but this is bullshit, too. I understand the sentiment, but it makes zero sense. The public didn't BUY Star Wars. you bought a ticket to WATCH IT. It's not a transference of ownership. You watching it a lot doesn't mean you bought SHARES in it, even if you bought so much stuff you COULD HAVE. All that ticket does is allow you to sit in someone else's theater and look at someone else's art for your own entertainment. Never, at any point, does anything but the memory of that experience stay yours. Next time you're in a theater, try telling the owner part of that theater is yours because you buy tickets there. Next time you're at the grocery store, try telling the checkout clerk the store is yours because you bought Raisin Bran there last week.
Ticket sales and DVD sales aren't binding ownership contracts. You bought a DVD, you didn't buy ownership rights to the film itself.
And I agree with Bizzle that maybe it is us who just don't like his stories anymore. Well, we certainly have legitimate cause to complain about that, don't we?
No doubt, Gaffer. I have some of the same complaints you guys have with all the movies. I think his stories are still his, and he still wants to tell them, just some of us don't wanna hear em no more. Which is fine. There are PLENTY of stories to go around. There's never gonna be a shortage of those, yunno?
I don't begrudge anyone their dislike of some movies. Sometimes the reasoning is odd, but sometimes the reasoning is sound, and it's just a diffrent strokes for diffrent folks kinda thing.
But this is my point--you're not basing those conclusions on ANYTHING SOLID AT ALL. you're pulling them out of your ass based on the fact you didn't like a couple movies. That's it. There's nothing solid for you to base anything that you said. It's vapor. It's years of soap-opera villainy and stereotypical plotlines from a bunch of made-for-tv biopic type stuff. There's nothing substantial there, nothing you can point to, to give your opinion any weight whatsoever. That's what I was trying to talk against. You're creating a stereotypical burnout out of thin air and bad fiction, and then slapping a "George Lucas" label on it, and then acting as if THAT IS THE TRUTH. It's silly. That's what I'm trying to call attention to.
The moment Star Wars was released in 1977, the public bought it. We own it. We deserve it
No doubt, Gaffer. I have some of the same complaints you guys have with all the movies. I think his stories are still his, and he still wants to tell them, just some of us don't wanna hear em no more. Which is fine. There are PLENTY of stories to go around. There's never gonna be a shortage of those, yunno?
I don't begrudge anyone their dislike of some movies. Sometimes the reasoning is odd, but sometimes the reasoning is sound, and it's just a diffrent strokes for diffrent folks kinda thing. Other than guiding ESB, ROTJ, Raider, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade....the guy has done NOTHING.
LOL. You just named 5 huge blockbuster movies. That's like telling a basketball fan "Other than coaching two different teams to championships, Phil Jackson hasn't done nothin!!" Not counting stuff like Willow and Labyrinth which didn't set the boxoffice world on fire, but were pretty decent flicks in their own right. Also not counting "Tucker" which was always a story he wanted to tell, and got to tell with Coppola. Also not counting helping build up Pixar before selling it off, and helping grow ILM, (I like how you just write that off as "so what if he grew the industry" as if all he had to do was flip a switch and check off a clipboard) and raising three kids on his own.
Yeah. he aint done shit alright. Not counting those 5 multimillion blockbusters, of course.
What we are doing here is QUESTIONING Lucas and his output and we draw conclusions.
LOL. You just named 5 huge blockbuster movies. That's like telling a basketball fan "Other than coaching two different teams to championships, Phil Jackson hasn't done nothin!!" Not counting stuff like Willow and Labyrinth which didn't set the boxoffice world on fire, but were pretty decent flicks in their own right. Also not counting "Tucker" which was always a story he wanted to tell, and got to tell with Coppola. Also not counting helping build up Pixar before selling it off, and helping grow ILM, (I like how you just write that off as "so what if he grew the industry" as if all he had to do was flip a switch and check off a clipboard) and raising three kids on his own.
Yeah. he aint done shit alright. Not counting those 5 multimillion blockbusters, of course.
What we are doing here is QUESTIONING Lucas and his output and we draw conclusions.
But this is my point--you're not basing those conclusions on ANYTHING SOLID AT ALL. you're pulling them out of your ass based on the fact you didn't like a couple movies. That's it. There's nothing solid for you to base anything that you said. It's vapor. It's years of soap-opera villainy and stereotypical plotlines from a bunch of made-for-tv biopic type stuff. There's nothing substantial there, nothing you can point to, to give your opinion any weight whatsoever. That's what I was trying to talk against. You're creating a stereotypical burnout out of thin air and bad fiction, and then slapping a "George Lucas" label on it, and then acting as if THAT IS THE TRUTH. It's silly. That's what I'm trying to call attention to.
The moment Star Wars was released in 1977, the public bought it. We own it. We deserve it
And I'm sorry, but this is bullshit, too. I understand the sentiment, but it makes zero sense. The public didn't BUY Star Wars. you bought a ticket to WATCH IT. It's not a transference of ownership. You watching it a lot doesn't mean you bought SHARES in it, even if you bought so much stuff you COULD HAVE. All that ticket does is allow you to sit in someone else's theater and look at someone else's art for your own entertainment. Never, at any point, does anything but the memory of that experience stay yours. Next time you're in a theater, try telling the owner part of that theater is yours because you buy tickets there. Next time you're at the grocery store, try telling the checkout clerk the store is yours because you bought Raisin Bran there last week.
Ticket sales and DVD sales aren't binding ownership contracts. You bought a DVD, you didn't buy ownership rights to the film itself.
Biz.....you're awesome!!!! Okay? You're just awesome. Period.
