Oh. Well, like you said, I think most of the blame for the weirdness was with the second sentence. So thanks for pointing that out. I’ve been thinking of alternatives for the first sentence and nothing else conveys my intended meaning properly. For example, with your suggestion, it sounds like Luke is admitting that Palpatine made them, which I want to steer clear of.
Anyways, here is the (hopefully) final rough draft of the Vader vs. Kylo scene. There are a couple experimental things in there that I can change, if needed:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PNq604n2sbbK8_y4y0ws2MNVg6AOXffP/view?usp=sharing