A list of ‘Suggestions, Claims, Memories, and Posts’ on more pre-PT era material: to be checked and confirmed
If you have any knowledge or memories of more pre-TT era material; stories, events or characters etc to add in here, or simply know of better quality sources and citations than those already posted up in here, please post them up in this thread.
Any help in providing answers, thoughts, information, or sources and citations - in checking and verifying any of these below is most welcome.
Key: ❔ = have not yet found sources to confirm this. ✔️ = confirmed and also discussed in this thread.
Q 1. A list of assorted ‘pre-PT era’ claims to check:
(click on the ‘Expand’ button below to see some intriguing pre-PT era content posted by CharlieTheStrawman at reddit/SWEU)
I found this helpful thread on a rare visit to the StarWarsEU reddit: Prequels before the prequels
The Thrawn Trilogy and various other material put the end of the Clone Wars at 35 BBY. ✔️
An obscure West End Roleplaying Game piece lists Palpatine as a former Jedi Master. ✔️
Jedi Search has Luke saying Yoda lived on Dagobah for hundreds of years. ✔️
The ESB Novelization says the Republic fought Mandalorians in the CW, and pretty much everybody agreed the Clones were the main enemy. ✔️
The main uniform of the Jedi was what Luke wore in ROTJ. ✔️
the Sith were name dropped in the ANH Novelization, but nobody knew what they actually were. Zahn wanted to to have them as what later became the Noghiri, but that was vetoed. ✔️
Palpatine came into power after the CW. Mon Mothma was a Senator at the time. ✔️
Obi-Wan had another apprentice alongside Anakin during the CW (initially Vader when he was a separate character from Ani, but that was obviously retconned. That guy later became Halagad Ventor). ✔️
Owen was Obi-Wan’s brother. ✔️
Luke and Leia’s mother stayed with the latter, and died when the twins were four. ✔️
Anakin and Obi-Wan still fought on a lava planet. ✔️
Obi was implied to be from Tatooine. ✔️
Jedi could get married. ✔️
Boba Fett’s real name was Jaster Meereel, and he was an adult during the CW. ✔️
Vader was already in the suit when the Empire began, he rose the through the ranks as damaged goods (mainly through being Tarkin’s henchman). ❔
Leia’s adoptive father’s first name was Prestor (retconned to be his middle name). ✔️
Anakin didn’t know his wife was pregnant at all. ✔️
If I remember anything else, I’ll edit it in."
^ all in a single post by CharlieTheStrawman
Status: 17 claims in total. 1 to still check/verify. 16 confirmed/answered (in here or in the main ‘a few OT•com threads’ section).
❔ & ✔️
The remaining queries/statement; any help or information welcome:
15• Vader was already in the suit when the Empire began, he rose the through the ranks as damaged goods (mainly through being Tarkin’s henchman). ❔
Q 2. If anyone had read K. W. Jeter’s The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy, do you recall Mandalorians disappearing from the known galaxy at the end of the Clone Wars?
wookieepedia page for 1998-99’s The Bounty Hunters trilogy: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Bounty_Hunter_Wars
The titles of the trilogy of book are: ‘The Mandalorian Armor’, ‘Slave Ship’, and ‘Hard Merchandise’.
I’ve come across a few posts from folks who claim that K. W. Jeter’s The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy references the Clone Wars. Specifically, that the majority of Mandalorians disappeared from the known galaxy at the end of the wars, their fleet making a blind hyperspace jump into the unknown. None of them cited their sources, though, which is frustrating.
Status: ❔
Q 3. Was there an old EU story with Obi Wan finding a young Anakin working as a navigator on a spice freighter?
Luke Skywalker: “No, my father didn’t fight in the Clone Wars. He was a navigator on a spice freighter.”
Obi-Wan Kenobi: “That’s what your uncle told you. He didn’t hold with your father’s ideals; he felt he should’ve stayed here and not gotten involved.”
Luke Skywalker: “You fought in the Clone Wars?”
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: “Yes. I was once a Jedi Knight, the same as your father.”
^ Ah yes, when Luke’s father and Darth Vader were still two separate characters!
Okay… for some bizarre reason; my imagination, a ‘mandela effect’, maybe reading a fan-fic or fan-lore, or even an old EU tale… I remember reading a short story set in the pre-PT era where this was actually the circumstances of how Obi-Wan met Anakin:-
That Obi-Wan was using the spice freighter as a transport to drop him off to his far-off mission, when the ship came under attack by pirates, the bridge crew killed, and Anakin then took over the controls and piloted the ship to safety from an almost certain death. Obi Wan was impressed with Anakin’s skills and how strong he was with the Force, and took it upon himself to offer Anakin the chance to train as a Jedi, when he returned from completing his far-off mission.
Did anyone else read or remember this? Know the EU story? magazine article, or fan-fic? Even an online story post? Or maybe took the same drugs back in the 90’s and shared the same dream, or false memory?
If you do remember any of this story, please let me know. Thanks!
(oojason)
Status: ❔
Q 4. Speculation for the upcoming PT films in 1997 From Starlog magazine #236 (March 1997):
Illustrations of a group of Jedi wearing Luke’s ROTJ-type garb, and mentions of them fighting Mandalorians,.
Also , I have a Starlog magazine , issue 236 , celebrating the 20th anniversary of Star Wars in 1997 . There is an article in it speculating about the then upcoming prequel trilogy . It has some cartoony illustrations of a group of Jedi Knights all wearing Luke’s ROTJ garb ,mentions them fighting Mandalorians ,and gives a breakdown of how they thought each movie may go . Unfortunately , my copy is buried in a box somewhere in my walk in closet under a pile of old electronics . So if anyone has a copy of that issue ,it would be great to post it here with scans . I couldn’t find the article online anywhere . ( too bad the internet archive took down their collection of Starlog that was on there a few years back )
Status: ❔ - has anyone got a scan, or able to scan this issue, for the above content?
A Thread Index:
• Introduction
• A quick note on ‘Canon’ (yep, I know…)
• Timelines: Story Events and Alterations
• Settings, Planets and Systems | Organisations and Governments
• The Jedi (as an Order Of Knights; their Way Of Life, the Force, Robes, Lightsabers etc)
• Characters and Biographies | Protagonists and Allies (including changes of persona or origin story)
• Characters and Biographies | Antagonists, Adversaries and their Allies (including changes of persona or origin story)
• Miscellaneous
• Blank Post (a spare post for possible future use; if ever required)
• A list of ‘Suggestions, Claims, Memories, and Posts’ on more pre-PT era material: to be checked and confirmed
• Index of Relevant OriginalTrilogy.com Threads
• Credits