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Post #156215

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Trooperman
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Date created
18-Nov-2005, 8:00 AM
Excellent points, both of you. I agree that I do not want Obi-Wan and Anakin fighting together in this one. One other problem with that would be...no shots whatsoever of them fighting together. It would just be close-up after close-up after close-up (it's not convincing that the film was always this way, which is the goal with all of this), and things wouldn't work spacially as well. When I edited the Obi-Wan/Dooku duel, I was very conscious about cutting it so that it made sense in the space that they were in. For instance, Dooku doesn't suddenly appear on the other side of the room at the cut. Believe it or not, the official edit made some cuts that were completely wrong like that, which have all been fixed.

So my solution was to work on it from the other end, i.e. Dooku and his ships shooting down the gunship. My reasoning is that by building up some personal hate towards Dooku (and maybe a line to Obi-Wan on the gunship, something along the lines of "Dooku will kill her! I know he will."), then Anakin's run will be justified. I’ve always intensely disliked the Padme falling out of the gunship and getting up again anyway. In fact, I wanted to just cut Padme from the gunship entirely until I was talked out of it. So this change would make me a lot happier with this scene as well, as I’ve always disliked it.

And regarding Dooku’s relentlessness- I certainly don’t want Dooku fooling around in my cut, but at the same time…Darth Maul didn’t talk. Mace didn’t talk. A lot of fights didn’t have any talking in the PT. I kind of hate to take it out of this one as well. I actually like the lines “Brave of you, boy. But I thought you would have learned your lesson,” and “Yoda always held you in such high esteem.” By the way, I think the reason they included that line was so that Obi-Wan’s ghost on Hoth made more sense. It implies that Obi-Wan had trained with Yoda before Qui-Gon. And with the new music and effects, I don’t think there’ll be an excitement deficiency in this one. (Believe me, though- Dooku isn’t fooling around. He hits Obi-Wan, hits him again, and he instantly raises his saber for the kill. He wants to kill Obi-Wan.

And regarding Dooku’s relentlessness- I certainly don’t want Dooku fooling around in my cut, but at the same time…Darth Maul didn’t talk. Mace didn’t talk. A lot of fights didn’t have any talking in the PT. I kind of hate to take it out of this one as well. I actually like the lines “Brave of you, boy. But I thought you would have learned your lesson,” and “Yoda always held you in such high esteem.” By the way, I think the reason they included that line was so that Obi-Wan’s ghost on Hoth made more sense. It implies that Obi-Wan had trained with Yoda before Qui-Gon.