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Spence's PT Edits Round 3 (V2 of AOTC Released) — Page 6

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SpenceEdit said:

Here’s an extremely rough preview of some things I’m playing with for the Order 66 scene. I have done barely any audio editing on this so far.

  • Everything plays as normal till the speederbike crash.
  • Yoda sequence moved to after the Jedi Temple but before Bail Organa arriving.
  • Padme overlooking the flaming temple moved to here. C-3PO removed from the shot.
  • Used footage from Obi-Wan Kenobi, Book of Boba Fett and The Mandalorian to add more carnage inside the temple.
  • Scene of Anakin explicitly murdering Younglings removed.
  • Shot of Anakin looking at the Younglings moved to the end of the sequence to imply he’s looking over what’s happening.

https://streamable.com/23tgc1

Nice, that works really well!

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Looks awesome, I can’t wait to see them all!

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timdiggerm said:

It would benefit from somehow masking out the kids on the walkway, but other than that it’s really great

I’m not particularly skilled at masking and there’s a lot of motion in that shot, so it’s kind of beyond my abilities. I would totally be up for it though.

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Anakin’s Turn

Not entirely dissimilar from HAL’s version, but I changed up a bit of the dialogue and action editing. I also added a subtle handheld camera effect for a lot of Anakin’s shots, unbalancing him while Palpatine is perfectly stable and in control.

Still some sound work to do here.

https://streamable.com/xwny7j

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SpenceEdit said:

Anakin’s Turn

Not entirely dissimilar from HAL’s version, but I changed up a bit of the dialogue and action editing. I also added a subtle handheld camera effect for a lot of Anakin’s shots, unbalancing him while Palpatine is perfectly stable and in control.

Still some sound work to do here.

https://streamable.com/xwny7j

It definitely looks more dynamic. Nice job!

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Is the reason you’re keeping Anakin’s turn mostly the same is because you think it was executed well originally, or because you can’t really think of any additional changes to make it better?

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G&G-Fan said:

Is the reason you’re keeping Anakin’s turn mostly the same is because you think it was executed well originally, or because you can’t really think of any additional changes to make it better?

Well, a little of both, to be honest. I tried to do some other things with it and they never felt right, or felt too "
fanedity". I think trimming down his dialogue helped a great deal, and keeping the scene a bit more dynamic, with more movement, gives it a bit more oomph. My biggest criticism of the scene was always that it happened too quickly, but I found it works better if it’s actually a little quicker. It’s a hectic moment, not a grand one.

The importance being placed on the moment is actually by us, the viewers. For Anakin, it’s a frantic mess of a situation where he has to make a very fast decision to save his wife. He doesn’t know that being named “Darth Vader” is going to be really important in the future. He just wants to save Padme, and he’s been convinced that the Jedi are corrupt (which isn’t 100% wrong.) Probably not a whole lot to mull over as far as which decision to make.

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SpenceEdit said:
Part of the reason I want to wait that long is I’m using some footage from Mando and the Obi-Wan show to expand on Order 66 (very sparingly, mostly in the Jedi Temple), and there could possibly be some usable footage in Ahsoka. Plus there’s rumors we’re going to see some Anakin flashbacks that could be usable.

Now that we’ve presumably seen what Ahsoka has to offer in terms of flashbacks, do you plan on using anything? I’m not sure that anything really fits with ROTS, unless flashes of it are perhaps placed in a dream sequence? I’ve always wished Ahsoka could be subtly mentioned or integrated into ROTS in some way, but it might be weird for audiences who are just watching the movies.

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Octorox said:

SpenceEdit said:
Part of the reason I want to wait that long is I’m using some footage from Mando and the Obi-Wan show to expand on Order 66 (very sparingly, mostly in the Jedi Temple), and there could possibly be some usable footage in Ahsoka. Plus there’s rumors we’re going to see some Anakin flashbacks that could be usable.

Now that we’ve presumably seen what Ahsoka has to offer in terms of flashbacks, do you plan on using anything? I’m not sure that anything really fits with ROTS, unless flashes of it are perhaps placed in a dream sequence? I’ve always wished Ahsoka could be subtly mentioned or integrated into ROTS in some way, but it might be weird for audiences who are just watching the movies.

So far, I don’t plan to incorporate anything, but I’m still going to wait till the show is over to finalize ROTS, just in case.

As a general update, TPM is 99% done and will likely be released by the end of the month. AOTC is slightly behind that one but will probably be out next month or early November. So I should have all three released by the end of the year.

I know there’s a lot of great PT edits out there so I don’t expect everyone to rush to check these out, but I’m really glad I took another crack at them. They’re fun to play with, and I definitely worked on and learned some new editing techniques that are very valuable.

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I’m looking for a little help!

There’s a shot from Kenobi I want to use in my edit of the Jedi temple, but I’d like to have the children running on the bridge masked out/removed. I’ve tried to do it a few times but it’s beyond my capabilities to make it look right. If anyone is able to assist, I’d appreciate it, and I’ll make sure you are credited.

Here’s the shot:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rjk_kcIDwTwLr57lvFT-CA6MLTpL8kva/view?usp=sharing

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Nevermind on the above! I found a better solution.

I am ready to release my edit of TPM into the wild. This is a first version and if errors/suggestions are found that will make it better, I will happily include them. Since this is a 3 part edit, I expect there to be some small evolutions before it’s in its final form, but I don’t think it makes sense to keep them to myself much longer.

So if you’d like to watch TPM, reach out to me. I should have AOTC ready to be sent out in about 2 weeks. ROTS will likely follow in early November. Then we tweak!

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Would love a link!

“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” — Obi-Wan Kenobi

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I’m just watching TPM now, and it seems perfectly smooth so far. I only spotted a couple of edits, all for the best, and everything generally feels a bit more punchy and tight. Can I get a changelog please, or at least a list of the main changes that come to mind?

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This is the closest thing I have to a cutlist, but there’s a lot of what I call “micro-edits” throughout that won’t be in this list.

Overall:
Did a color correction on the movie to make it look a little more like a 70’s film stock without overdoing it.
Added further film grain to make it feel more in line with 70’s movies/4K77.
Many instances of sound effects and music have been completely reworked, especially the podrace introduction, which had it’s entire soundscape rebuilt for parts of it.

Added disclaimer and “Spence Fanedits” title card
Opening crawl is unchanged.
Removed “as you know, our blockade is perfectly legal”
Removed “what?! What did you say?”
Cut a few seconds of Qui-Gon receiving his tea.
Cut from “kill them immediately” to the ambassador ship being destroyed.
Cut droid dialogue when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are cornered in the meeting room.
Cut “have you ever encountered a Jedi knight, sir?” “well, no”
Cut “this is impossible!”
Cut “they’re no match for droidekas”
Removed some awkward dialogue between Padme and Nute.
Cut from “can mean only one thing, invasion” straight to the army landing.
Cut Jar-Jar’s interaction to make it seem that Qui-Gon is deliberately tackling him to the ground to save him.
Cut “muy muy, I love you!”
Cut “exsqueeze me”
Cut “yousa follow me now, okey day”
Cut Tarpals’ “yousa in big doodoo this time”
Cut the majority of Nass’ ticks except for the last one.
Cut “symbiote circle” line.
Cut the dramatic delivery of “the planet cooooore”
Jar Jar now just says “A little help here would be hot”
Cut Jar Jar’s dialogue after being freed.
Removed the majority of the Bongo sequence, keeping a little bit of the traveling and Jar-Jar explaining he was banished because he’s clumsy,
Cut some Rick Ollie Captain Obvious-isms when they flee the planet.
Cut “now there are two of them” after Maul is introduced (generally most of these cowardly moments that end Trade Federation/Sidious scenes are removed.
Cut Jar Jar stepping in poop.
Cut most of Jar Jar’s antics in Watto’s shop, with the exception of turning off the pit droid.
Cut Jar Jar juggling a bunch of junk as Qui-Gon enters. This was tricky.
Cut Jar Jar being confused which direction to turn as they exit the shop
Cut Anakin’s “yippee”
Cut a few seconds of Jar-Jar getting up after being attacked by Sebulba.
Cut all scenes involving C-3PO from the film.
Kept the Jar-Jar tongue joke, but removed his reaction after Qui-Gon lets him go.
Removed any midichlorian discussion.
Removed Anakin’s crappy friends being crappy to him. Kittster is the only one still hanging out.
Removed the end of Qui-Gon and Watto’s bet, before Watto talks to Anakin. It goes straight from there to the podrace arena.
Lots of cuts throughout the podrace.
Lots of the pilot introductions are cut
The parade is cut
The piece Sebulba breaks off of Anakin’s podracer is no longer visible in the next scene.
Cut the other pod that stalls out.
Cut anything that makes the scene not feel fast and dangerous.
Lots of tiny cuts throughout to spike the pacing.
Cut Obi-Wan saying “pathetic lifeform” he now just says “another lifeform”
Added the deleted scene of Anakin fighting Greedo, but cut where Greedo was called by name.
Cut another Anakin “yippee” in his house.
Moved the scene of the probe droid searching Mos Espa to right after Anakin leaves home, and added the probe droid deleted scene right after it.
Cut Anakin saying he’s “tired”
Removed Jar Jar saying Padme is hot.
Trimmed the beginning of Padme and Palpatine’s meeting on Coruscant.
Trimmed some dialogue from the Jedi council scene for better pacing.
Anakin’s test now begins with Yoda asking him how he feels, removing the silly view screen guessing game at the beginning.
There’s no more dialogue after Padme says “prepare my ship!” For a stronger exit from the scene.
Mention of Maul joining Nute on Tattooine is removed and he is cut from all scenes until the duel. The idea is to let the audience forget about him until he makes a dramatic return.
The scene with Ollie showing Anakin the ship controls is moved to right after they leave Coruscant, and a lightspeed effect is added to the ship windows so it matches the rest of the sequence.
Some more Boss Nass ticks removed during the forest scene.
Removed the scout and Anakin seeing the soldiers coming.
Trimmed the dialogue in the planning scene to keep it moving faster and remove some questionable acting from Padme.
Some sequences in the third act are re-ordered to stay with certain events a bit longer. I also used the famous L8wrtr structure where Anakin saves the day by blowing up the ship, which allows Padme to capture the Viceroy.
Extended a piece of the fighter cockpit to cover Anakin’s face where I cut some dialogue.
Trims to Jar Jar to make him more heroic, in his own clumsy way. Both he and Anakin do not do anything by accident throughout. They are purposefully heroic.
A lot of Anakin’s reactions, like “uh oh” or “this is not good” are removed.
Sped up the grappling hook sequence and had them enter the hallway from the window a bit faster.
Jar Jar no longer accidentally frees all of the big bombs from the carriage, this is something he does on purpose. He just doesn’t think about the fact that they’re going to roll at him too.
Removed sequence where Jar Jar lands on top of a tank and juggles a bomb. He is now immediately captured after the mount he’s on is hit by a canon.
The movie after Maul’s death is more or less unchanged.

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Very good. Frankly it’s a very smooth piece of work, doing nothing radical but tightening it all up. It doesn’t feel fanedity at all. I quite like how you didn’t go “too far” with anything: Keeping a handful of the elements people tend to object to, such as Jar Jar’s goofiness, has borne out nicely. Edits which seek to remove all of those things can feel more harshly cut, whereas it turns out they’re fine in smaller doses.

I haven’t compared this back to other leading edits, but clearly, this is an excellent version, which even at the very worst would make a great baseline to reintroduce the viewer’s preferred other tweaks into, and at the best, is an extremely strong version of this film.

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Excited to check this out either tonight or tomorrow. I’m so familiar with this movie and Hal’s edit in particular from working on my own edit, but I’ll try as hard as possible to come in with fresh eyes.

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I would like a link as well, when you have a moment!

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I’d like to take a gander as well.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.