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Post #1554125

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Grand Admiral Thrawn
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Date created
12-Sep-2023, 7:24 PM

Apologies for the incoming long post, but I was brainstorming and here are some ideas to help better sell Palpatine’s new plan in Ascendant. I think a lot of the original Palpatine lines can be restored and some others can be adjusted very slightly (if the AI voice is possible for Palps). I know this may be a little radical for V4 of this edit, but I think it could warrant a discussion given the new AI breakthroughs and the initial struggle of clearing up Palps plan for this edit:

RESTORE:

  • Palpatine: “I have died before. The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be, unnatural.”

CHANGE:

  • Palpatine: “The might of the Final Order will soon be ready. It will be yours if you do as I ask. Bring me the girl, end the Jedi and become what your grandfather Vader could not. Together, you will rule all the galaxy as the new emperors. But beware. She is not who you think she is.”

CHANGE:

  • Kylo Ren: “Palpatine wants you dead.”
  • Rey: “Serving another master?”

CHANGE (or potentially REMOVE SCENE):

  • Palpatine: “Where is the girl? Perhaps you have betrayed me. Do not make me turn my fleet against you.”
  • Kylo Ren: I know where she’s going. She’ll never be a Jedi.
  • Palpatine: “Make sure of it. Bring her to me.”

CHANGE:

  • Kylo Ren: “You know why the Emperor’s always wanted you dead.”
  • Rey: “No.”
  • Kylo Ren: “I’ll come tell you.”

CHANGE:

  • "Rey: “Why did the Emperor come for me? Why did he want to kill(take)a child? Tell me.”

RESTORE:

  • Palpatine: “Long have I waited, for my grandchild to come home! I never wanted you dead. I wanted you here, Empress Palpatine.”

RESTORE:

  • Palpatine: "Your hatred, your anger. You want to kill me. That is what I want. Kill me… and my spirit will pass into you. As all the Sith live in me… you will be Empress… we will be one.

Vader’s plan in the OT was never to kill Luke, but to turn him to the dark side for Palpatine, another TROS logic fail. But, I think if these few changes are able to be implemented it would definitely help clear up Palpatine’s plan and allow for some content to be restored.

Palp’s plan:

  • Have Kylo bring Rey to him and turn her, so the Sith will be reborn with his bloodline. If Rey and Kylo don’t turn and try to kill him (which he assumes will be the end result), he will pass his spirit into one of them, preferably Kylo as he is already on the dark side. After Leia botches that option, he takes over turning Rey himself. Once Palps discovers the dyad and realizes he can use the two of them to restore himself, that is the final plan.

Kylo:

  • Has more of a reason to side and work with Palpatine early on, he wants Rey to turn and join him to rule together (TLJ carry over), but he plans to defeat Palpatine with Rey together to remove him from the picture entirely (now that he is not aware of the spirit transfer). Palpatine is annoyed when Leia turns him back to the light. But is confident Rey will come to him anyways on her own so she can kill him and do the spirit transfer.

Rey’s struggle:

  • Struggle with being a Jedi or join Ben in the dark side to rule… aka, a continuation from her arc from TLJ of “taking his hand and being together”. Rey decides to be a Jedi and makes the decision to kill the Emperor, but is shocked to find out that is what he wants, as Rey would never have the assumption that he wanted her dead, just that he was trying to get her for “reasons”.