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Massive 35mm Leaks on Reddit
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29-Jul-2023, 2:21 PM

In reference to See No Evil and Dr. Cooper’s posts…

I’m somewhat familiar with the discussion here regarding the mass posting of 35mm scans on Reddit having been a member of the Fan Edit subreddit for a couple of years now. I’ve also done my own fan edits for the past decade and belong to many other forums such as this one for fan edits as well as preservation and restoration sites.

I agree with both of you wholeheartedly about the sharing of 35mm scans. Many on Reddit who are sharing these prints don’t understand the damage they are doing to those here who are doing all the work. Others simply don’t care that they are doing damage because they are entitled and selfish to the nth degree. I’ll leave it to you to decide who’s who.

The big problem the people who download these 35mm scans for free with no repercussions is the fact that they don’t have to pay for it so they don’t care. The idea that sharing is caring and the more stuff is shared the more demand there will be for the product is somewhat true from a certain point of view.

The other problem that’s been raised is the erroneous claim and belief that you guys, and others like you, are trying to profit from these prints, which is simply not the case. This is because they have no skin in the game and haven’t had to pay out of their own pockets to fund these projects. They neither understand or don’t care that the money you spend to fund these projects is recouped from donors and that money doesn’t stay in your pocket - it goes right back into making more projects to share with said donors.

That’s the big picture they all miss. It’s a widely held and misconceived notion in those Reddit sub-groups as well as in general that everything should be free, regardless. It’s a ridiculous notion that has no basis in reality.

Right now they download everything for free and share it for free, using Google Drive, MediaFire, and Mega, for example, because they all provide a free amount of storage. But let’s see how generous these same fools would be if tomorrow these storage sites started charging $10 a month for the account plus $10 per Gig of transfer. (Note - I pay for a Mega account that gives me 400 Gig of storage and 2TB of transfer for about $70 so I can trade fan edits). If any of these folks had to pay to share there freely acquired content, the sharing would certainly cease cold.

Another issue I would like to point out here, which I’ve posted about numerous times on Reddit’s Fan Edit group, is that the more content is shared for free, whether fan edits or 35mm scans, the more popular the group becomes and in turn the more attention the group will garner. There’s a reason it took a long time for Napster to be taken down. When only a small group of people were sharing mp3s of songs (at low quality), there was no reason for it to garner any attention. But once it reached critical mass with 320kbps quality and millions of downloads a day, the music studios took notice because sales started to tank.

This same thing will eventually happen with the sharing of fan edits and 35mm scans. It’s not bad enough that certain people are mass posting 35mm scans in one day. You have others who are creating central portals where there’s a one stop shop for download links to thousands of edits. And still others are creating websites of their own to share their dozens of projects, while others are creating streaming channels on Discord to do the same thing for mass consumption.

It’s simply getting out of hand now. I believe it’s just a matter of time before it all reaches critical mass. There’s a reason places like originaltrilogy.com and the IFDB have strict rules about no asking for download links and no posting of direct links to content. It’s for the legal protection of the website/group/community as well as to keep under the radar of the studios.

Anyway, I just wanted to share my two cents. Take it for what it’s worth…