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Something bad has happened to me recently, and I wanted to bitch about it, because I think that it’s not even my fault.

Basically, there’s a girl I started talking to a few months ago. I have met her online. As soon as we met, we immediately connected, and for a couple of months we texted each other every day and talked every day. We were really interested in each other. This girl comes from Turkey, while I come from Italy. But she told me that she would have moved to Italy next year with her family, because they wanted to leave Turkey and start to live in Italy. We even planned to meet once she came to live in Italy.

However, a couple of months ago she told me that she had to take some exams at university, as she studies medicine. Now, I’m a quite person who always tries to be kind. I don’t like to argue with other people if it’s not necessary. I’m a person who likes to leave their space to others, therefore, I thought that it would have been best not to text at all until the exams were finished. And so I did. I didn’t text her until her exams were finished. When her exams were finished, she texted me again, and she was not angry about the fact that I didn’t text her for the whole time. In fact, she studied a lot and she actually never had time to be online anyway, so she was not angry with me about that. Since she was not angry about that, I started to think that acting this way would have been better. That is, texting her exclusively when I knew that she was free, while trying to leave her alone when I knew that she was busy. This way - I thought - I wouldn’t have disturbed her when she was busy, and I would have done a good thing by giving her some personal space when she was doing something else.

After she finished her exams, we started to talk again for a couple of weeks. But after a couple of weeks she told me that she was going to visit her grandparents and her cousins, who live in Iraq. Since she would have been temporarily in another country and would have been with her family often, I thought it would have been best not to text her at all, so as to allow her to have free time with her family and give her some space. I thought it would have been best to wait until she returned from Iraq, and start to talk with her again exclusively after she returned. However, apparently she didn’t even bothered to tell me that she returned to Turkey in the first place. And since I didn’t know that she was back at home, then I didn’t know that she was available to talk again. Since I didn’t know that, I obviously didn’t text her for another month, being completely unaware of the fact that she was back. And during this month, she didn’t even remotely thought of texting me once, not even to say “Hi”, or something.

Giving that I didn’t text her (despite the fact she was back), she started to think that I don’t care about her anymore. Now she started to hate me, and told me that it was a mistake to be interested in me. She’s telling me that I’m a horrible person, that I don’t give a shit about her, and that she doesn’t want to talk with me anymore. But… Why? I mean, I was in good faith. She’s the one who didn’t even bother to tell me that she was back, so it’s not my fault if I didn’t text her. I simply didn’t know that she was available to talk again. I always tried to be super-kind, cute, available, mature, and not clingy. And despite this, now I’m forced to hear that I’m a horrible person who doesn’t give a shit about people and doesn’t know how to treat a girl.

I just hate this whole situation.

«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»

— Vladimir Lenin

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Spartacus01 said:

Something bad has happened to me recently, and I wanted to bitch about it, because I think that it’s not even my fault.

Basically, there’s a girl I started talking to a few months ago. I have met her online. As soon as we met, we immediately connected, and for a couple of months we texted each other every day and talked every day. We were really interested in each other. This girl comes from Turkey, while I come from Italy. But she told me that she would have moved to Italy next year with her family, because they wanted to leave Turkey and start to live in Italy. We even planned to meet once she came to live in Italy.

However, a couple of months ago she told me that she had to take some exams at university, as she studies medicine. Now, I’m a quite person who always tries to be kind. I don’t like to argue with other people if it’s not necessary. I’m a person who likes to leave their space to others, therefore, I thought that it would have been best not to text at all until the exams were finished. And so I did. I didn’t text her until her exams were finished. When her exams were finished, she texted me again, and she was not angry about the fact that I didn’t text her for the whole time. In fact, she studied a lot and she actually never had time to be online anyway, so she was not angry with me about that. Since she was not angry about that, I started to think that acting this way would have been better. That is, texting her exclusively when I knew that she was free, while trying to leave her alone when I knew that she was busy. This way - I thought - I wouldn’t have disturbed her when she was busy, and I would have done a good thing by giving her some personal space when she was doing something else.

After she finished her exams, we started to talk again for a couple of weeks. But after a couple of weeks she told me that she was going to visit her grandparents and her cousins, who live in Iraq. Since she would have been temporarily in another country and would have been with her family often, I thought it would have been best not to text her at all, so as to allow her to have free time with her family and give her some space. I thought it would have been best to wait until she returned from Iraq, and start to talk with her again exclusively after she returned. However, apparently she didn’t even bothered to tell me that she returned to Turkey in the first place. And since I didn’t know that she was back at home, then I didn’t know that she was available to talk again. Since I didn’t know that, I obviously didn’t text her for another month, being completely unaware of the fact that she was back. And during this month, she didn’t even remotely thought of texting me once, not even to say “Hi”, or something.

Giving that I didn’t text her (despite the fact she was back), she started to think that I don’t care about her anymore. Now she started to hate me, and told me that it was a mistake to be interested in me. She’s telling me that I’m a horrible person, that I don’t give a shit about her, and that she doesn’t want to talk with me anymore. But… Why? I mean, I was in good faith. She’s the one who didn’t even bother to tell me that she was back, so it’s not my fault if I didn’t text her. I simply didn’t know that she was available to talk again. I always tried to be super-kind, cute, available, mature, and not clingy. And despite this, now I’m forced to hear that I’m a horrible person who doesn’t give a shit about people and doesn’t know how to treat a girl.

I just hate this whole situation.

There’s nothing worse than a romantic partner who expects you to read her mind. Sorry about what happened there. I hope you find someone who isn’t gonna treat you that way.

I have altered Lucas’ visions. Pray I don’t alter them any further.

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Spartacus01 said:

Something bad has happened to me recently, and I wanted to bitch about it, because I think that it’s not even my fault.

Basically, there’s a girl I started talking to a few months ago. I have met her online. As soon as we met, we immediately connected, and for a couple of months we texted each other every day and talked every day. We were really interested in each other. This girl comes from Turkey, while I come from Italy. But she told me that she would have moved to Italy next year with her family, because they wanted to leave Turkey and start to live in Italy. We even planned to meet once she came to live in Italy.

However, a couple of months ago she told me that she had to take some exams at university, as she studies medicine. Now, I’m a quite person who always tries to be kind. I don’t like to argue with other people if it’s not necessary. I’m a person who likes to leave their space to others, therefore, I thought that it would have been best not to text at all until the exams were finished. And so I did. I didn’t text her until her exams were finished. When her exams were finished, she texted me again, and she was not angry about the fact that I didn’t text her for the whole time. In fact, she studied a lot and she actually never had time to be online anyway, so she was not angry with me about that. Since she was not angry about that, I started to think that acting this way would have been better. That is, texting her exclusively when I knew that she was free, while trying to leave her alone when I knew that she was busy. This way - I thought - I wouldn’t have disturbed her when she was busy, and I would have done a good thing by giving her some personal space when she was doing something else.

After she finished her exams, we started to talk again for a couple of weeks. But after a couple of weeks she told me that she was going to visit her grandparents and her cousins, who live in Iraq. Since she would have been temporarily in another country and would have been with her family often, I thought it would have been best not to text her at all, so as to allow her to have free time with her family and give her some space. I thought it would have been best to wait until she returned from Iraq, and start to talk with her again exclusively after she returned. However, apparently she didn’t even bothered to tell me that she returned to Turkey in the first place. And since I didn’t know that she was back at home, then I didn’t know that she was available to talk again. Since I didn’t know that, I obviously didn’t text her for another month, being completely unaware of the fact that she was back. And during this month, she didn’t even remotely thought of texting me once, not even to say “Hi”, or something.

Giving that I didn’t text her (despite the fact she was back), she started to think that I don’t care about her anymore. Now she started to hate me, and told me that it was a mistake to be interested in me. She’s telling me that I’m a horrible person, that I don’t give a shit about her, and that she doesn’t want to talk with me anymore. But… Why? I mean, I was in good faith. She’s the one who didn’t even bother to tell me that she was back, so it’s not my fault if I didn’t text her. I simply didn’t know that she was available to talk again. I always tried to be super-kind, cute, available, mature, and not clingy. And despite this, now I’m forced to hear that I’m a horrible person who doesn’t give a shit about people and doesn’t know how to treat a girl.

I just hate this whole situation.

There’s nothing worse than a romantic partner who expects you to read her mind. Sorry about what happened there. I hope you find someone who isn’t gonna treat you that way.

Not only she expected me to read her mind, but she didn’t put any effort whatsoever. Because, as I have said before, when she returned to Turkey she didn’t even bother to tell me that. She expected me to be the one who was always gonna text first. So, not only she expected me to know that she returned without having told me that, but she even expected me to text first about something I didn’t know in the first place. Apparently, it was too difficult to text me first to say “Hi”.
She said that I didn’t put any effort, but she’s the one who didn’t text me for a whole month, despite being at home without nothing to do. I mean, if you see that I’m not texting you since a long time, you could at least try to figure out why I’m not texting you, you could just ask me. If she texted me and said something like: “Hey, I have returned home since a while, but you are not texting me. What happened?”, then I would have simply explained her that I didn’t know that she returned, and everything would have ended there. But no, apparently she’s too important to text me first every once in a while…

«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»

— Vladimir Lenin

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Incels who only hate themselves rather than hating others (women in particular) are a thing.

I’m not sure I’m one of them. But I am close.

When’s something gonna happen?

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Dude, you’re way too young to start considering yourself an incel. You have plenty of time to shape yourself into the kind of person that is attractive to people, so focus on doing that instead of being miserable (you’re allowed to be miserable, but don’t let that determine your life, because then it will just perpetuate itself).

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As someone who’s had the misfortune of being one of those losers who can’t get laid in their personal lives, I lament the fact that the term “incel” has become synonymous with “bitter misogynist virgin who blames women for all his problems”.

I only had sex once in my entire life (with a prostitute). Honestly I didn’t find much of a difference between sex with a prostitute and masturbating, and I did it in the hopes that this would open the doors for me to a sexually active life. It didn’t turn out to be so, and I’ve struggled my entire adult life to hook up with women.

The fact that I had to pay for that one time and have had the shittiest luck imaginable with women has really fucked with my head. Am I really so undesirable that paying for sex is my only real option?

However, I don’t hate any women nor do I blame them for not wanting me. I just feel this mix of frustration, anger and bitterness over never experiencing consensual sex with a woman who lusts after me as much as I lust after her. I really want to experience such reciprocity.

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I think I’ve realized what’s happening. It’s not that I’m sad I can’t get laid, it’s that getting laid is one of the only thoughts that makes me feel some kind of pleasure. I am being treated currently, but it’s a slow process. I completely understand self-improvement, but what I have is a legitimate condition that has to be treated. I don’t know if it’s depression, but it could be (I’m not the one to self-diagnose).

When’s something gonna happen?

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I have similar problems.

Although I’m 23 years old, I have never been able, not only to have a sexual experience with a woman, but also to kiss a girl on the lips. I have never even managed to get a single date in my entire life. To be fair though, this is partly due to the fact that I never felt the need to look for a girl to have a serious relationship until I was 18. But since I turned 18, the desire to find a girlfriend, to make love and to try to have a serious relationship has increased more and more, but I have not yet managed to satisfy it. However, the fact that I have not yet managed to fulfill this desire is not women’s fault, it’s simply fault of my disability, which makes me quite difficult to meet, not only girls, but people in general.

Now, I can’t explain you in detail what’s my disability, as it’s extremely complicated. But I can tell you that I’m completely blind from my right eye, and I see very very little from my left eye, even less than a 90 year old person. Also, I have to be careful when I walk among the streets or go around in general, because if I happen to hit the head or trip, then I could go completely blind for the rest of my life and lose the little amount of eyesight that I still have. So, I can never go out alone, I always need someone to watch over me and walk next to me. Sure, I can walk without anyone watching over me, but I can only do it in places I know well (like my neighborhood), and even when I can go around alone in the places I know well, I still have to walk quite slowly and be super-careful, to make sure I don’t trip or get hit. So I can’t walk confidently like any other normal person. All these problems make it really difficult for me to meet new people, make friends, and meet girls to flirt with. Besides, in my city there is no recreational association where people my age can meet to exchange experiences and get to know each other.

I’m not kidding guys, I’m 23 years old and I don’t have a single real life friend because of my health problems, as it’s much difficult for me to meet people. Not impossible, but still difficult. It’s very hard to live like this. Also, I’m not exactly attractive. So, even assuming that I manage to know a girl, what are the chances that she might see something in me? Sure, you can tell me that my personality is what really matters, that my physical appearance is a secondary thing, blah blah blah. But let’s be honest, the world doesn’t work like that. Women like men who not only have a good personality, but also look attractive. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, because I want exactly the same from women. I too want to meet a girl who looks beautiful and has a great personality, so it’s completely normal for women and girls to want the same, and I’m not complaining about that. But still, I’m not exactly attractive, so it might be even more difficult for me to meet a girl who could be interested in me.

In summary: yeah, life sucks. But at least I still have God, he never leaves me alone. Maybe, this shitty situation is just God testing me to allow me to prove to myself what I’m worth, and how much I can be capable of overcoming my difficulties. Who knows…

«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»

— Vladimir Lenin

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I feel for all three of you. Spuffure, I’m glad you’re still doing treatment. I know some of this is beyond your control and I hope my comments don’t come off as overly critical, because that’s not my intent.

I’ve also never had sex and have voluntarily chosen to give that up, but it’s a lot more difficult to have that denied you against your will. But I can speak from experience in saying that there is a lot of joy to be found in life apart from sexual pleasure.

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RicOlie_2 said:

But I can speak from experience in saying that there is a lot of joy to be found in life apart from sexual pleasure.

At the risk of appearing ungrateful, I’ve had my fair share of worldly joys. Sex is the one thing that has eluded me my entire adult life.

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fmalover said:

As someone who’s had the misfortune of being one of those losers who can’t get laid in their personal lives, I lament the fact that the term “incel” has become synonymous with “bitter misogynist virgin who blames women for all his problems”.

Especially galling when you know that the OG incel was a lovelorn woman who created the community in the hopes of helping others suffering the same predicament.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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Superweapon VII said:

fmalover said:

As someone who’s had the misfortune of being one of those losers who can’t get laid in their personal lives, I lament the fact that the term “incel” has become synonymous with “bitter misogynist virgin who blames women for all his problems”.

Especially galling when you know that the OG incel was a lovelorn woman who created the community in the hopes of helping others suffering the same predicament.

Yes. A sad perversion of a once noble intention.

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RicOlie_2 said:

But I can speak from experience in saying that there is a lot of joy to be found in life apart from sexual pleasure.

It’s not so much about sex for me, although I obviously like the idea of having sex. For me, it’s more of a frustration with a lack of female affection. That is, I sincerely want to have a serious relationship, I’m really searching for a loving, fun and committed relationship. I’m a person with a high morality, and many people even call me a traditionalist. I don’t like the idea of loveless sex at all. Personally, I find the idea of having sex with someone you’re not in love with to be one of the most seedy things ever. Yeah, I want to have sex like everyone, but I want to have it with someone I’m in love with. I’m not against premarital sex, but if I have to have sex, at least I’d like to have it with someone I have a serious, committed relationship with, not some random person I don’t even know. So, it’s not just the lack of sex for me, it’s the lack of love itself.

«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»

— Vladimir Lenin

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That’s understandable. I’ve given that up too, because I’m celibate, and it’s not always easy. Because I’ve given up marriage to serve my Church, though, I have the benefit of a loving community and some good, celibate friends, which helps to fill that space.

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Sorry if this is too political (however it’s really not to start a debate) I said it before, but I really feel like I have no idea who to believe and who not to. The internet has made so many political ideologies present, I don’t know whether or not I should be left or right or centre or something else. Who is right? Who is wrong? Am I a bigot and don’t even know it?

When’s something gonna happen?

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Do you know what’s the right ideology to follow? Simple: we need a system where the politicians sit down and discuss the problem, agree what’s in the best interest of all the people and then do it. And if people don’t agree, then they should be made to by someone wise. And if it seems like a dictatorship, it doesn’t matter. If it works…

«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»

— Vladimir Lenin

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You do know it is Darth Vader who says that line, right?

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Omni said:

You do know it is Darth Vader who says that line, right?

Do you know it was meant to be a joke, right? XD

«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»

— Vladimir Lenin

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Spuffure said:

Sorry if this is too political (however it’s really not to start a debate) I said it before, but I really feel like I have no idea who to believe and who not to. The internet has made so many political ideologies present, I don’t know whether or not I should be left or right or centre or something else. Who is right? Who is wrong? Am I a bigot and don’t even know it?

Fuck tankies, fuck fash, and fuck liberalism, too. Libertarian socialism FTW.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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Spuffure said:

The internet has made so many political ideologies present

Avoid ideologies as a rule. People who follow ideologies have their heads in the clouds, and no ideology will be able to provide to you all the answers anyway.

I don’t know whether or not I should be left or right or centre or something else.

You shouldn’t adopt any political identity. It puts you in a mindset where the need to defend your camp and justify yourself outweighs your ability to engage with an issue honestly.

Who is right? Who is wrong?

Obviously in politics there are liars and idiots, but in general right and wrong aren’t really the point. There’s no one correct political position because many policies which will help Group A also screw over Group B. Just look out for yourself and the people you care about (in real life).

Am I a bigot and don’t even know it?

Would a seething racist even ask this question? The idea of being secretly bigoted without knowing is (usually) just predatory to empathetic people, the very people who are least likely to be bigoted. If you’re worried that you have an inaccurate view of a group you have little exposure to, just seek out candid exposure to them.

Reading R + L ≠ J theories

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Superweapon VII said:

Spuffure said:

Sorry if this is too political (however it’s really not to start a debate) I said it before, but I really feel like I have no idea who to believe and who not to. The internet has made so many political ideologies present, I don’t know whether or not I should be left or right or centre or something else. Who is right? Who is wrong? Am I a bigot and don’t even know it?

Fuck tankies, fuck fash, and fuck liberalism, too. Libertarian socialism FTW.

I could be defined as a Tankie. Lol.

«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»

— Vladimir Lenin

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«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»

— Vladimir Lenin

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Spartacus01 said:

Superweapon VII said:

Spuffure said:

Sorry if this is too political (however it’s really not to start a debate) I said it before, but I really feel like I have no idea who to believe and who not to. The internet has made so many political ideologies present, I don’t know whether or not I should be left or right or centre or something else. Who is right? Who is wrong? Am I a bigot and don’t even know it?

Fuck tankies, fuck fash, and fuck liberalism, too. Libertarian socialism FTW.

I could be defined as a Tankie. Lol.

I’m not one of those guys who stamps everyone under the Leninist/Marxist-Leninist/Maoist umbrella a tankie. I’m not a fan of any of those strains of Marxism, but I don’t like demonizing individuals. So long as you’re not a Grover Furr-type Stalinist, I’m content to agree to disagree.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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Superweapon VII said:

Spartacus01 said:

Superweapon VII said:

Spuffure said:

Sorry if this is too political (however it’s really not to start a debate) I said it before, but I really feel like I have no idea who to believe and who not to. The internet has made so many political ideologies present, I don’t know whether or not I should be left or right or centre or something else. Who is right? Who is wrong? Am I a bigot and don’t even know it?

Fuck tankies, fuck fash, and fuck liberalism, too. Libertarian socialism FTW.

I could be defined as a Tankie. Lol.

I’m not one of those guys who stamps everyone under the Leninist/Marxist-Leninist/Maoist umbrella a tankie. I’m not a fan of any of those strains of Marxism, but I don’t like demonizing individuals. So long as you’re not a Grover Furr-type Stalinist, I’m content to agree to disagree.

I’m not entirely Communist. I agree with the majority of principles of Marxism-Leninism, but I’m not philosophically materialist like classical Communists, as I believe in God. I still support the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc historically, though. And yes, I appreciate Stalin, but I criticize Grover Furr for some of his political views (though I appreciate his historical research). But I’m not going to start a debate about this, because I have no intention to do so, and also because this is supposed to be a discussion about random stuff that people want to complain about, not a political thread.

«No one is guilty of being born a slave. But the slave to whom not only aspirations for freedom are alien, but who justifies and paints his slavery in rosy colors, such a slave is a lackey and a brute who arouses a legitimate sense of indignation, disgust and repugnance.»

— Vladimir Lenin

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Saying you appreciate Stalin is like saying you appreciate Hitler…