logo Sign In

Post #79519

Author
Zion
Parent topic
Censorship of the original films
Link to post in topic
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/79519/action/topic#79519
Date created
27-Nov-2004, 2:19 PM
Their argument crumbles anyway. MBJ and Zion both agree that 1. you can't notice the changes, and 2. they don't matter. They seem to use this argument in the sense that we should therefore accept the changes. But in doing so it raises two counter questions. 1. if you can't notice the changes, why put them there? and 2. if they don't matter than why does it matter so much to have them edited?

The simple answer, I think is capitalism and censorship. As any true american they don't want to move over for anyone. They want to have control over practically everything that effects them, even if it also effects others. They don't see the problem with this. They'll swear the changes don't matter - but what they're really saying is "what I'm doing shouldn't matter to you, because you don't tell me what to do. I do what I want to do my way whenever I want to do it". And Tikigod is right, the changes might well be comparatable to changing one stroke of a picasso painting. However isn't that in disrespect to the original work?

People wanted you to give them water. But instead you made lemonade and said "this will do, whether you like it or not".

You dissapoint me Daniel. It sounds to me like you have personal issues dealing with Americans. Contrary to your belief, we Americans are not a bunch of fat capitalists that refuse to listen to reason. Seems to me you don't know much about our culture and rely on ill-biased stereotypes to formulate your opinion. We shouldn't have to try and look past your personal feelings towards other cultures to see your points. So please, don't play that card again.

All that aside, I for one never said that you can't notice the changes, and I never said that they don't matter. If they didn't matter to me, I wouldn't even bother with them. But like MeBe and I have said numerous times, when you go through frame by frame, things become more noticable. When I view the video back at regular speed, I notice things like the giant hair on the Fox logo right before it fades out or the yellow tape on the last frame of each shot. I also notice the frames where the 1976 ILM team obviously dropped the ball and should have fixed things. When I play back MeBeJedi's fixed saber sequence, you better believe that I notice those 7 fixed frames.

I understand your argument. You oppose us making these changes because it goes against the fundamentals of preservation and alters the films into something you cannot call the "Original Trilogy". I agree with your argument. I agree that you cannot call our versions "originals" and I would be the first one to complain if you did. I am, however, not forcing you to accept anything. It is obvious that you don't agree with what we are doing and that is completely ok. No one is forcing you to watch our versions of the films.