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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
If you knew a thing about Canada, you'd know that there is too much liberal bull crap there already. They *need* to move back towards the centre, not just "I think they should.." They NEED it.


Hmn. This reminds me of a sketch on "Kids in the Hall", where this philipino kid met a Canadian tourist:

"Ah, are you an American?"
"No, I'm Canadian. It's like an American, but without the gun."
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
If you knew a thing about Canada, you'd know that there is too much liberal bull crap there already. They *need* to move back towards the centre, not just "I think they should.." They NEED it.


Oh, there can never be TOO much...
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
If you knew a thing about Canada, you'd know that there is too much liberal bull crap there already. They *need* to move back towards the centre, not just "I think they should.." They NEED it.


Oh, there can never be TOO much...


Do you even LISTEN to yourself, at all?

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Actually, the current Liberal government is a lot more centrist than you've been led to believe; of course, when you consider that Democrats are even more conservative than the Canadian Conservative party was at one point, it all makes sense.

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
At the same time, is there really a good time to call an election in Canada? It would be easier if we had regularly scheduled elections like the Americans do; that way, a ruling party could not call an election whenever the members felt like it, and people would be forewarned and adjust their schedules accordingly.


You don't have a regularly scheduled election? How do you elections work?
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Originally posted by: skyman8081
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
If you knew a thing about Canada, you'd know that there is too much liberal bull crap there already. They *need* to move back towards the centre, not just "I think they should.." They NEED it.


Oh, there can never be TOO much...


Do you even LISTEN to yourself, at all?


The liberalism, not the crap (and no, they are not the same thing).
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Usually they are. Liberalism is only good for tempering conservative extremism.

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Why must you dislike Liberalism so? Surely there must be somthing the Liberals are good for other then tempering conservative extremism.?



Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Usually they are. Liberalism is only good for tempering conservative extremism.


one could the same thing about Conservatives.


I what I dislike are the extremes on boths sides.
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I believe Lucas is somewhat of a liberal. It's the way he talks in commentaries.
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That would not help the liberal cause.
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Are you kidding? Of course Lucas is liberal. Just look at the story of Star Wars. The leader of a Republic goes corrupt and it's up to the left-wing militants to save the galaxy from the evil oppressive government.

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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Are you kidding? Of course Lucas is liberal. Just look at the story of Star Wars. The leader of a Republic goes corrupt and it's up to the left-wing militants to save the galaxy from the evil oppressive government.


Brilliant, isn't it? And reallistic...
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IMDb classifies the film as "Action/Adventure/Fantasy/Sci-Fi..."

Emphasis on "Fantasy"

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Originally posted by: Warbler
Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
At the same time, is there really a good time to call an election in Canada? It would be easier if we had regularly scheduled elections like the Americans do; that way, a ruling party could not call an election whenever the members felt like it, and people would be forewarned and adjust their schedules accordingly.


You don't have a regularly scheduled election? How do you elections work?


Pretty much exactly the way Gundark said it. A party tries to call an election when it feels it would be in that party's best interest. Usually, one party holds a majority of the seats in the government, so they pretty much hold the election when they feel the polls suggest they would win (within reason, of course...each term being three to five years).

In the last election (last spring), however, the Liberals, who held a majority government from 1993-2004 (four terms) were held to a minority position, where they had the most seats, but not a majority of the seats. Since then, they've been making alliances to get one party or another to vote with them so that they can form a majority. Now, after revelations of corruption during the Liberal reign of the 90's, the three opposition parties are looking to pass a vote of non-confidence in the government and force an election. Now, whether that election happens in December or February or April depends on what the leaders of the three parties decide. One of the big "no-no's" is a Christmas election, because the primary view is that the public wouldn't want that, so whoever calls a Christmas vote would fall in the polls.

I hope I didn't make that too confusing. I'll be honest, I left out a lot of stuff that you "should" know if you wanted to know the whole story. Canadian politics is so hard to follow, but it sure makes one amazing soap opera!

To sum it up, our elections happen when the government thinks it can win.

If you do want to know more, Warbler, I'm more than willing to try to oblige.
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
As they say in France:

"Touche' "


*draws up sword and shield in defense*
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Who says the New Republic is left wing? They pretty much have a state religion (the Jedi) and are more a collection of local governments than a powerful central government. The entire story of Star Wars is about getting rid of a corrupt central government and moving to one that DOESN'T try and control what people think.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Who says the New Republic is left wing? They pretty much have a state religion (the Jedi) and are more a collection of local governments than a powerful central government. The entire story of Star Wars is about getting rid of a corrupt central government and moving to one that DOESN'T try and control what people think.


Wait, I'm confused. The right wing isn't building up record government spending and isn't trying to control what people think?
I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.
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Well, the government spending thing is really getting on my nerves.

And no, the right isn't trying to control what people think. That's a liberal thing, you know, with those college proffesors who insist that if you don't think their way, you're an idiot and deserve to fail, and all those 'elitists' who think having traditonal values makes you a close-minded bigot.

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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
As they say in France:

"Touche' "


*draws up sword and shield in defense*


Um........no

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Originally posted by: sybeman

Pretty much exactly the way Gundark said it. A party tries to call an election when it feels it would be in that party's best interest. Usually, one party holds a majority of the seats in the government, so they pretty much hold the election when they feel the polls suggest they would win (within reason, of course...each term being three to five years).

In the last election (last spring), however, the Liberals, who held a majority government from 1993-2004 (four terms) were held to a minority position, where they had the most seats, but not a majority of the seats. Since then, they've been making alliances to get one party or another to vote with them so that they can form a majority. Now, after revelations of corruption during the Liberal reign of the 90's, the three opposition parties are looking to pass a vote of non-confidence in the government and force an election. Now, whether that election happens in December or February or April depends on what the leaders of the three parties decide. One of the big "no-no's" is a Christmas election, because the primary view is that the public wouldn't want that, so whoever calls a Christmas vote would fall in the polls.

I hope I didn't make that too confusing. I'll be honest, I left out a lot of stuff that you "should" know if you wanted to know the whole story. Canadian politics is so hard to follow, but it sure makes one amazing soap opera!

To sum it up, our elections happen when the government thinks it can win.

If you do want to know more, Warbler, I'm more than willing to try to oblige.

But, what would happen if the Government never called for an election? Sounds to me like the Government in power has too much power. They should not decide when elections are to take place. Thank you for your explanation Sybeman.


And no, the right isn't trying to control what people think. That's a liberal thing,


Chaltab if you want to say that the conservatives aren't trying to control what people think, that is one thing. But saying that the liberals are trying control what people think, is B.S. They are ones always defending the 1st amendment. The liberals merely wants to keep the government from controlling what people think. And there is a big difference between calling some one an idiot or a bigot and controling what some one thinks. One could argue that the conservatives call anyone who doesn't think their way an evil godless sinner.
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Originally posted by: Warbler

But, what would happen if the Government never called for an election? Sounds to me like the Government in power has too much power. They should not decide when elections are to take place. Thank you for your explanation Sybeman.

There is a rough 5-year rule, which is how the Martin Liberals wound up with a minority government. The rule is that the ruling party can call an election any time it pleases, but can only rule for 5 years at a time. The 5 year annivaersary was rapidly approaching, so the Liberals decided to call an election and kinda got screwed. I say kinda because I'm not a fan of the Liberals. Since the election, the government has narrowly avoided a non-confidence vote by forming alliances with the NDP (the real socialists) and independents, and luring centrist Conservatives away from that party. The house of cards is falling now though, and it's only a matter of time before the Liberals are forced to call another election.

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